NeurocideVibekillah Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) So my band went on hiatus about 3 weeks ago and I thought it seemed rather strange considering we were on a roll with our music. (might be Tl:dr for some so before you type that, fuck off, I know!) The first thing I did when noticed we missed a practice was text the band leader (singer, guitarist, chief songwriter) and ask what's was going on. When he didn't respond, I asked my drummer if he knew what was going on and he told me that the band was on a long term break. He also asked if I got any messages from the band leader, I of course didn't, drummer wasn't pleased about this. So I tried contacting band leader a couple more times and got nothing. So I go on Facebook (because that's what people use to get a lot of info about our scene) and let the majority of our audience (about 30 people lol) know that the band was on break and to like and share our stuff. A couple days later I get an angry phone call from my singer saying to "Take down the update of our band being on hiatus", of course I obliged but not without asking him what the hell was going on. He couldn't tell me squat because he was at work - I eventually changed the message to say "I don't know what the fresh FUCK is going on with my band" and rightfully so. Later on my drummer shares some texts with me ''explaining'' why the band was on hiatus, it still didn't go into any detail why so I figured it was just my singer going through some kind of depression. I didn't share anything else about the band really, only thing that said I was going to focus on my own music until the time came for me to get back into the fold. Today my singer made me feel like a total asshole for even having the audacity to share anything related to 99 Guns without consulting them about it first - I've shared recordings that I've mixed, show dates, and my positive experiences. I thought it seemed kinda fucked that he would stew in his misery and wait for a convenient time for him to voist this on me when he couldn't bother to tell me that he had a problem with it before. He also finally explained what was going on but worst of all made it sound like it was a bad thing for asking how he was doing. I mean, what the fuck is wrong with this person?! So I pretty much told him how I felt about what he said with as little hostility as I could muster, and I don't think anything good is going to come of it despite any amount of effort to prevent bad news but whatever..fuck it. Oh, by the way, I know he probably not going to like it but LIKE AND SHARE 99 GUNS on FB, AND SOUNDCLOUD! https://www.facebook.com/99guns/ You're welcome, you fucking dick! Edited April 10, 2018 by NeurocideVibekillah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clu Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 RIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEXobiologist Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Considering that a big part of being in a band, outside of actual music making, is proper communication... I'd say you are better off if others aren't willing. It only gets worse if it's not dealt with quickly. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 minute ago, MEXobiologist said: Considering that a big part of being in a band, outside of actual music making, is proper communication... I'd say you are better off if others aren't willing. It only gets worse if it's not dealt with quickly. THANK YOU! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEXobiologist Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I've just seen it time and time and time again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 That pretty much the same thing I said to him. Communications have to improve and it's that's so wrong to say I might as well kick rocks. Not that it matters because that's pretty much the case anyway since he said he pretty much considers this hiatus to be long term if not permanent. It's bullshit, I know. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogue_Alphonse Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 38 minutes ago, MEXobiologist said: Considering that a big part of being in a band, outside of actual music making, is proper communication... I'd say you are better off if others aren't willing. It only gets worse if it's not dealt with quickly. Yup, I thought the same thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 I wanna be in a band 😐 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Metal Alchemist Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) That's fucked up if he has a complete lack of communication with you than goes off on you for commenting on it. If he is the band leader he has the responsibility of letting the other members know what's going on as for the status of the band's activities. Luckily in my band there's no real lack of communication, and no real band leader either. We have our own drama though. But if someone can't make it or needs a break or whatever, they're always very upfront about it. EDIT: Listened to the 5 tracks in the first link. My favorites were Elizabeth Bathory, mainly because I thought the bells were a really cool touch, and Robinson, because there was cool guitar playing. Edited April 10, 2018 by Doom Metal Alchemist 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 (edited) 58 minutes ago, Doom Metal Alchemist said: That's fucked up if he has a complete lack of communication with you than goes off on you for commenting on it. If he is the band leader he has the responsibility of letting the other members know what's going on as for the status of the band's activities. Luckily in my band there's no real lack of communication, and no real band leader either. We have our own drama though. But if someone can't make it or needs a break or whatever, they're always very upfront about it. EDIT: Listened to the 5 tracks in the first link. My favorites were Elizabeth Bathory, mainly because I thought the bells were a really cool touch, and Robinson, because there was cool guitar playing. And that's just it, he wasn't very upfront about things, and I don't it was right for him make me feel guilty for anything. BTW Robinson is one of my favorites..its one of the more intense songs to play on Bass. Bathory is great to, really shows our diversity. Edited April 10, 2018 by NeurocideVibekillah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEXobiologist Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, NeurocideVibekillah said: That pretty much the same thing I said to him. Communications have to improve and it's that's so wrong to say I might as well kick rocks. Not that it matters because that's pretty much the case anyway since he said he pretty much considers this hiatus to be long term if not permanent. It's bullshit, I know. welp, i say, if its all just the singer having the issues.... this might just be a perfect time for yourself and any of the other members to explore some new stuff together. new projects are never a bad thing unless they cause you to neglect current projects completely, but you know, if you're on some "hiatus" then no better time. can't neglect something if its not there. it great for creativity too! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEXobiologist Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 1 hour ago, fuggnificent said: I wanna be in a band 😐 i thought that once. takes wayyyyyyy too much determination and a passion for playing tho. had my brother start teaching me the bass... it took like, 5 months for me to admit i'd rather just watch, listen, support, and help wherever i could. but hey, if its something anyone really wants, especially if you already have some knowledge to play any particular instrument, i say go for that shit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted April 10, 2018 Author Share Posted April 10, 2018 Hell yeah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted April 10, 2018 Share Posted April 10, 2018 Shit like this happens all the time with bands, a lot of song writers don't take the value of the other band members parts seriously..Just keep working on your music and mixing skills man.. You could keep in touch with your drummer, and the rest of the band and either work on writing your own lyrics or search for another vocalist. I hit impasses like this all the time even in hiphop, but I used to drum and do vocals for rock, and metal so I know how you feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 It wasn't a song writing problem, it was a let's be productive and have some proper communication sort of problem. I will probably be doing something in the near future with the drummer if he gets some time open. I really want to start recording drums, I'm even tempted to buy a cheap kit just so I'll have something to experiment on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Sounds like you need a new singer not a haitus. Like did he just decide all this on his own? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 5 minutes ago, Poof said: Sounds like you need a new singer not a haitus. Like did he just decide all this on his own? Yeah, pretty much. It is his band and his songs after all - not that that's an excuse by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) 25 minutes ago, NeurocideVibekillah said: It wasn't a song writing problem, it was a let's be productive and have some proper communication sort of problem. I will probably be doing something in the near future with the drummer if he gets some time open. I really want to start recording drums, I'm even tempted to buy a cheap kit just so I'll have something to experiment on. As someone that's always had to 'write the songs' I can see both sides of the situation though honestly. Even if I per say got a job that takes up my time..or energy (kind of whats going on for me now I'm combating muscle sorenes and braindeadness) I let people I'm working with know exactly whats going on..and for me it always sucks so much to have to do that but theres only so much I can do.. I need to record these lyrics.. it's gonna suck. Edited April 11, 2018 by PhilosipherStoned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, NeurocideVibekillah said: Yeah, pretty much. It is his band and his songs after all - not that that's an excuse by any means. Well what is the rest of the band supposed to do in the meantime? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEXobiologist Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 11 minutes ago, NeurocideVibekillah said: Yeah, pretty much. It is his band and his songs after all - not that that's an excuse by any means. Well, I mean... he doesn't own the musicians. The songs maybe. You can always write more without him tho. Like I said, NEW PROJECTS!!! WOOOOO!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 Yea do what mexy said 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I'm trying to work with homey, but he saw the shit I do and the producers I work with and found out hiphop isnt really as easy as he thought it was..well that and he's more of a rocker...which I understand. I do like his recording structure and I'm trying to collab with him to get in touch with my roots so I can write choruses, or atleast better hooks for my music.. The way it's going it'll probably be a year before he gets his shit together enough to seriously collab, but we're both people that dabble in multiple genres.. I know it's hard to switch gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, PhilosipherStoned said: As someone that's always had to 'write the songs' I can see both sides of the situation though honestly. Even if I per say got a job that takes up my time..or energy (kind of whats going on for me now I'm combating muscle sorenes and braindeadness) I let people I'm working with know exactly whats going on..and for me it always sucks so much to have to do that but theres only so much I can do.. I need to record these lyrics.. it's gonna suck. The problem was he didn't communicate when he had plenty of time to do so, I can't understand why he would do that other than out of pure selfishness. He didn't have a problem with fatigue he was just being inconsiderate. It's not that he had a problem writing stuff. He's just overly neurotic and doesn't seem to think much of other people. Edited April 11, 2018 by NeurocideVibekillah 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) Yeah it sounds like he was flaking out or something.. I was just trying to say that happens a lot especially with song writers/vocalists. I know you've been working hard on your production skills though so just keep at it..and if worse comes to worse showcase your skills and look for another vocalist. It sucks to have people frontin' when your trying to up your game.. If you catch my vibe.. Edited April 11, 2018 by PhilosipherStoned 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilosipherStoned Posted April 11, 2018 Share Posted April 11, 2018 I try to give people a little bit of edge room with their personal lives, but rap/hiphops honestly worse for shit like that so I've ended up having to forget about a lot of people that come at me serious for music collabs at the beginning, but then I either don't hear shit from them or they start trying to drag the music a different way then was initially planned.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 (edited) Don't get me wrong, I mean, if someone has some personal issues to work out, that's fine. I can't fault anyone for wanting to take off time because of that. I totally understand and respect that. But I think we can both agree that communication is key, and if someone can't be straight forward, gives you the run around, or in my case waits forever while pretend some things are ok, then blast me out of nowhere on top of other things that come out of the blue, obviously that shit don't fly homie. Edited April 11, 2018 by NeurocideVibekillah 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 I guess I can wrap this thread up with a video from the last show we did. Please hope for me and the sake of rock n roll that it's not over for us. Reeses Peaces. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeurocideVibekillah Posted April 11, 2018 Author Share Posted April 11, 2018 6 hours ago, Poof said: Well what is the rest of the band supposed to do in the meantime? The drummer has two different bands and I'm on my own for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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