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Lois has always been a tomboy even when she's been presented as a classy lady. People are real quick to point out how much she (absolutely) looks like the lead from the Owl House and it gets the show points with some animation fans and loses it some with others. It will likely have a mixed reception from animation fans but being a Superman thing sells it to a broader audience than just the animation heads. I agree it probably will do worse than UWE but probably not much worse.
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Those very same shows might have got more interest if they premiered now on Disney Plus but nobody paid attention to them on DXD. Also their animation makes MAWS look great by comparison. I really don’t think MAWS will bomb despite clearly not being Invincible. Despite what a very vocal minority has to say about it being filled with vocal minorities, it’s probably gonna do fine. But chances of there being more all but went out the window when they abandoned plans to market it to the youth.
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1) Gunn’s new focus hasn’t even happened yet 2) People watch cape shit that doesn’t tie into anything despite what Disney thinks 3) Looking like anime isn’t a deal breaker given people still want more 2003 Teen Titans to this day But I know there are also cape shit fans that won’t give the show a chance because Lois is Asian, Jimmy is Indian and Clark comes off as a himbo that girl boss Lois will push around because that’s woke or some shit. They’ll be frothing at the mouth if Jimmy is gay or there’s a trans character in it.
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They didn’t mention Toonami in the earliest ads for Unicorn either. To play devil’s advocate that article might not know the exact time MAWS is on Toonami and the author just knows Toonami starts at Midnight. But there’s no way I see MAWS encores airing in the back of the block. It’s probably first, maybe 2nd. Following up on prior conversations about the appeal of this show for adults… While I do think it feels more like a CN show than UWE does (mostly because UWE is kinda boring for a kids show) I don’t actually think the Toonami audience will avoid watching it. The majority might even like it. The Thursday night crowd though? I’m skeptical but cape shit does tend to appeal to a broader audience than a lot of what AS airs.
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Two more June schedules revealed, still no new shows
Sketch replied to Toonamiguy321's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
DeMarco needs to spend less time on social media, period. Unrelated to that but related to the original topic, they definitely aren’t waiting to announce Lupin Zero. Sentai’s BD coming in September has no dub. But that reminds me, the upcoming BD from Sentai of Eizouken does have a dub but CR has the master license. I suppose maybe that could be a show they had to talk to the Japanese producers to get if CR got in the way. -
Two more June schedules revealed, still no new shows
Sketch replied to Toonamiguy321's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
The man clearly didn't pay enough attention to Beast Wars but I'm sure being forced to air TF Armada, Energon, Cybertron, DICE, Yu-Gi-Oh and Duel Masters was irritating. I seem to recall he didn't dig the 2002 He-Man despite how good it was. -
Two more June schedules revealed, still no new shows
Sketch replied to Toonamiguy321's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
TFG1 was a bit before my time so I didn't catch onto Transformers till Beast Wars. TMNT 1987 hit the airwaves when I was 3 years old and I've been a TMNT fan ever since. Probably anyone born after 1980 could be a fan of both TF and TMNT because those franchises have persisted since 1984 but DeMarco is a bit older than that at least so naturally he'd be more interested in the gritty black and white TMNT comic than the sanitized goofy cartoon. Though Voltron and TFG1 came out around the same time so maybe G1 just didn't appeal to him. -
Someone Asked Genndy About his thoughts on toonami today
Sketch replied to CountFrylock's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
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More stalling, but maybe Dr Stone S3?
Sketch replied to Toonamiguy321's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Aniplex was SUPER reliable until Demon Slayer broke box office records and Sony decided to leverage its value. There was that brief period when Hulu secured some Aniplex titles exclusively but that much like Sailor Moon with Viz Meda didn't at all mean they stopped shopping their series to Toonami. Suddenly they were acting like Crunchyroll did when it was owned by WarnerMedia. It feels like Sony looked at how Crunchyroll did business and decided all of their companies should learn from them. Even though FUNimation bought Crunchyroll (not the other way around despite the CR brand being the one going forward) and ex-FUNimation staff taking over CR, the company hasn't acted much at all like the FUNimation we once knew. When they bought The Right Stuf they also seemed to have complicated Adult Swim's prior ability to get Gundam series directly from Sunrise in Japan (unless G Witch is just a unique circumstance). Somehow they have been able to wrangle MHA season 6, Food Wars season 5 and Dr. Stone season 3 but Demon Slayer and Mob Psycho 100 seasons 2 and 3 remain out of reach while Toonami doesn't even get a sniff of the new era of shounen including Chainsaw Man, Spy x Family, Jujutsu Kaisen, MASHLE and Hell's Paradise. And it also doesn't look likely that Megalobox: Nomad or SSSS.Dynazenon will be gracing the block any time soon either. It's hard to say what is going on with Viz Media now. They sold Toonami the dub premieres of HxH, JoJo Parts 3, 4 and 5, One-Punch Man, Megalobox and Boruto as soon as they were available but Yasha-Hime broke that trend. They still let Toonami buy the broadcast rights but only after the episodes had streamed on FUNimation, Crunchyroll and Hulu. Bleach is another odd case because Disney bought the streaming rights outside of Japan but Viz supposedly has the master license outside of Japan and that would mean Viz sold those rights to Disney. We have no idea if that's going to stay an exclusive deal or not. As for everything else they have (which frankly isn't much) it would not be surprising if Adult Swim wasn't interested in any of it or don't want to pay whatever Viz is asking for them. That leaves Sentai as the best partner they can reach out to right now and while they don't have many huge hits they have some modest ones besides Made in Abyss that Toonami really ought to throw on for the sake of variety. -
Total fantasy 6:00 Young Justice 6:30 My Hero Academia 7:00 One Piece 7:30 One Piece 8:00 Venture Bros. 8:30 Futurama 9:00 Futurama 9:30 Mike Tyson Mysteries 10:00 King of the Hill 10:30 King of the Hill 11:00 American Dad 11:30 American Dad 12:00 Harley Quinn Uncensored 12:30 Rick & Morty 1:00 Originals Rotation 1:30 Robot Chicken 2:00 Aqua Teen 2:30 The Boondocks 3:00 Metalocalypse and Superjail 3:30 China, IL and Morel Orel 4:00 Frisky Dingo and Sealab 4:30 Birdman and Brak Show 5:00 Space Ghost C2C 5:30 Home Movies
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A schedule that could potentially do well 6pm MHA and One Piece 7pm Futurama x 2 8pm King of the Hill x 2 9pm American Dad x 4 11pm Rick & Morty x 2 12am Rotating Originals 12:30am Robot Chicken x 2 1am Aqua Teen 1:30am The Boondocks 2am Venture Bros. 2:30am Metalocalypse and Superjail 3am Rick & Morty x 2 4am Space Ghost and Home Movies 5am King of the Hill x 2
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Two more June schedules revealed, still no new shows
Sketch replied to Toonamiguy321's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
With AoTs dub it really makes you wonder what the holdup is since it still isn’t streaming yet. Maybe nobody knows who can premiere it. -
Two more June schedules revealed, still no new shows
Sketch replied to Toonamiguy321's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
There's arguably no reason to start another show until Food Wars ends unless they expand so that comes as no surprise. Nice of them to give a heads up about the extra long episode of Unicorn I guess. It seems pretty dang likely that the last two episodes of Unicorn will premiere on June 22nd and encore on June 24th bumping Dr. Stone to 1am. Either that or maybe they double up One Piece that week. And I'm already dreading the likelihood that Jul 1st will be another Unicorn marathon. And these schedules also basically confirm they're not showing a DC animated movie the weekend The Flash hits theaters which IMO is a pity because Justice League: Flashpoint is pretty rad. -
Oh I just love having all these data points to compare! Thursday Unicorn premiere 0.09 18-49 / 187k TV after a Rick & Morty 0.14 18-49 / 268k TV (7th highest Rick & Morty reruns with 18-49 which was the 48th highest cable rerun that week with 18-49) Saturday Unicorn encore 0.14 18-49 / 276k TV after an American Dad 0.20 18-49 / 356k TV (2nd highest American Dad rerun with 18-49 which was the 10th highest cable rerun that week with 18-49) And the number one American Dad that week was the 11pm Saturday airing that got 0.22 18-49 and 440k total viewers which was also the 5th highest cable rerun with 18-49. Seems like that week, Saturday was probably the best performing night of Adult Swim and it was mostly thanks to American Dad. That was a sizable improvement for American Dad from the prior Saturday as well so who could say why they did so much better. That week the best performing American Dad and Rick & Morty were on Thursday before the 1 hour premiere of Unicorn. So we can see that Unicorn lost about 0.05 18-49 from Rick on week 2 and about 0.06 from a unusually high Stan on week 2. Doesn't look like Unicorn is going to beat it's lead-ins at this rate or even get in a loss range below 70k but I wonder how the premiere of episode 3 could have done on Saturday after American Dad. Maybe 300k and 0.16 with 18-49? All that said, Unicorn is doing well on Toonami but Stan is giving it quite a lift and if American Dad keeps doing some of its best numbers in the 11pm hour on Saturday then the network will see no reason to move Toonami to 11pm.
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You'd think it would make so much more sense for Cartoon Network to embrace the all ages philosophy and be comfortable airing shows like King of the Hill and Futurama outside of the AS branding but instead of doing that they're pushing Adult Swim to start earlier and earlier and tossing any action show not targeting preschoolers to Adult Swim. I can tell you I'd much prefer for Adult Swim to be a small block of TV-14-DSLV/TV-MA (primarily) original content and for Cartoon Network to encompass the PG and even light TV-14 stuff after 6pm. But Adult Swim has the brand recognition and it would take too much effort to remarket The Cartoon Network as something for viewers older than 11 years old. It's just insane for Adult Swim to start at 6pm but at this rate I think they'll take 5pm sometime in 2024. It certainly would be great for them to use at least some of that 6-8pm time for action animation Monday-Thursday (they already are doing that on Friday). Part of the reason why Toonami worked as well as it did on CN was because it was early enough to avoid competition from network prime time and in a rather good position to be viewed by both kids coming home from school and adults coming home from work. There's no reason to believe that time slot will instantly be successful for action animation now but it couldn't hurt to try. If they don't try some action animation on weeknights they're really gonna be stretching King of the Hill and American Dad this Fall when they lose Bob's Burgers. They're oddly reluctant to run Futurama in a decent time slot except on Sundays. But unless Futurama actually does considerably worse than King of the Hill then they'll probably just 2 hours each of King of the Hill, Futurama and American Dad. As for Saturday... they really don't need 5 much less 6 hours of comedy before Toonami so they dang well better move it up to 11pm.
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What do you think the show tied up in Japan is?
Sketch replied to Toonamiguy321's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
I feel that’s an exaggeration when all the guy said was “we would have made some noise but it wasn’t to be” And that was in direct response to an article questioning why it dropped with no notice. It’s a fair observation and I think CR has actually been overall better about not shadow dropping dubs since then. A positive change from before. -
Not a bad night at all. Unicorn surely exceeded 200k and 0.12 18-49 on Saturday (Primal as well) beating the Thursday airing soundly. Unless somehow Food Wars beat those reruns and boy that would be something. Unicorn’s drop from American Dad wasn’t great last week. American Dad probably did some heavy lifting this week as well.
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More stalling, but maybe Dr Stone S3?
Sketch replied to Toonamiguy321's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
We’ll probably never know how easy or difficult it is for Adult Swim to get various lesser known anime but I have a real hard time believing they’re unable to get anything besides Food Wars, Dr. Stone and this other thing they can’t announce for half a dang year. Maybe their budget is so shit that they have to stretch a few shows to maintain even 4 premieres regularly. WBD certainly isn’t running like a well oiled machine yet. WBD acts like they value Toonami and promote it even outside of Adult Swim but don’t give it enough financial support to avoid stagnation and content droughts. But I also strongly suspect that Toonami lived on the graces of companies like FUNimation, Aniplex and Viz Media and that’s simply not going to continue in the current climate. Those sweet deals they got are a distant memory now. And if we add onto that a hesitation to try untested anime that they’re not co-producing, we can only speculate what if anything they could get if they took more chances on unknown quantities. I don’t think they are so allergic to trying something different that they’re passing on every show that isn’t popular and I still want to believe they’re looking beyond the usual suspects but they can definitely stand to up their game in that area in particular. Made in Abyss feels like it was a miracle. Sentai has Gridman and Ass Class tier shows they can probably get if they asked. -
Unicorn Warriors Eternal to get marathon on ACME Night May 28th
Sketch replied to Jman's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
A rather odd way to air the show on CN hours. Seems any showings on ACME Night will be events. -
Yeah it's a slog. Maybe by then they will double up again. Who can say?
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It's glorified filler that they keep on because they like it. Some people say Toonami got 150 episodes initially but I can't find a source for that at all. That said, I don't think they only acquired up to the end of Punk Hazard but its hard to say at this point. But what about this other rumor Jman? Where'd that come from?
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More stalling, but maybe Dr Stone S3?
Sketch replied to Toonamiguy321's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Yeah its bizarre they don't even mention Dr. Stone returning in that Facebook post. I also thought they might have goofed and announced it without permission but that's apparently not what the thing they can't announce. Nice to know they have something else coming as well as more Dr. Stone but it figures that they didn't get the plot relevant TV special that introduces a major character. May turned out to be a wash but June looks promising. The other show will probably replace Food Wars or Unicorn (depending on when Superman flies in) but maybe it will actually launch before Food Wars ends and they'll add a slot. -
Unicorn: Warriors Eternal Episode 1 and 2 talkback
Sketch replied to Jman's topic in Episode Discussion Archive
I appreciate the character designs showing so much classic cartoon influence. Popeye, Betty Boop, Looney Tunes, vintage Disney, you name it. Though yeah some are rather ugly. Interesting enough concept but I don't really like that each time these souls are passed on it completely erases the life of someone else, that's rather f'd up and they'll probably go into that. I'll see how they go about it before I make any judgements. Honestly I don't love these characters, certainly not as much as Spear and Fang, Jack or the Sym-Bionic Titan trio but that's kind of a high bar. They might grow on me but my initial impression is "why do I care?" and I kinda just don't. The monk boy and robot make for good visual gags but I'm getting increasingly irritated at the elf and Melinda. I totally understand Emma/Melinda is having trouble accepting everything at face value (and should) but her attitude and outbursts is already tiresome. Meanwhile the elf guy is trying to force her to just go back to being the former Melinda (and his lover) and it makes me dislike him the most.- 39 replies
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What do you think the show tied up in Japan is?
Sketch replied to Toonamiguy321's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Another possibility that probably is a deal they would make directly with a Japanese company… Lupin Zero. Yes it’s only 6 episodes but I still expect them to be interested and so far no dub has streamed. Or maybe they went to Sunrise directly to plead their case for Witch from Mercury because CR isn’t budging on their own.