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WE DID IT!!!!!!

YES YES YESSSSS I AM SO HAPPYYYYY!!!!!!!

Realistically this is all they were ever going to get. There was never any chance of gun bans or confiscation. There just arent the votes for that. Expanded background checks, red flag laws, and mental health are all very popular positions and pretty easy to legislate. This was a lay up that Congress, shockingly, didnt screw up.

Looks like we are about to have the most substantive gun control measures in 30 years be signed by Biden.

Both Roe and Casey overturned. Putting this one out there just in case it actually happens. Could be an interesting night.

Well well well, if it isnt the ol "Slippery Slope" argument popping up. Strange seeing it from this side. We will see if that happens. Judging by the concurrences Im not so sure there are 5 votes to push for Constitutional Carry. Even Thomas has said that reasonable restrictions for 2A are fine.

Sure they would. The text explicitly stated that states can put up reasonable restrictions for issuing CC permits provided they are based on objective requirements. My state requires passing a class before you can get your CC, and that law is going to remain in effect. That is an extra bar to clear that general gun owners do not need to clear. There's nothing stopping states from putting up restrictions on issuing CC permits provided they are based on objective restrictions and not subjective restrictions. If those restrictions become too onerous then they will likely be struck down, but as it stands the current laws and rules on the books for the vast majority of states will stay in effect. Its only the states that had subjective issue rules that will be impacted by this ruling.

Sure there are. If someone refuses to go to a class, or cant pass the test at the end of the class, then they have failed an objective requirement to get a permit. If there is a requirement for range time and they either cant/don't do the range time and cant hit the target with a high enough accuracy then that is a failure of an objective test. Those are two of the most common requirements for CC permits, and neither are requirements to own or buy a gun in general.

Yes and no. You can still put objective restrictions in place to get a CC permit. Its not unusual at all to have requirements for a CC permit. Mandatory classes, range time, background checks(potentially expanded), and other reasonable and objective restrictions can be put in place. It doesnt mean that states now must issue permits to anyone who wants one, it means that states must issue permits to anyone who can pass objective requirements.

Just got home and tuning in, what happened?

Loootttttsss of hot takes online about how this decision is going to mean anyone can carry a gun anywhere. Thats not what this decision does. What it does is remove the ability for states to subjectively restrict the ability of someone to carry a gun. CC permits are still absolutely permitted, and even regulations on those permits are still fine, they cant just make it so someone somewhere makes a subjective decision on if a person can carry or not. My state requires you to take a class by a state registered instructor and pass a background check before you can apply for a CC permit. That stays in place. What isnt allowed is to have that same process and then someone making a decision that you cant get a permit even if you passed all objective restrictions. This decision also clearly stated that restrictions on where you can carry can stay in place, but the government cant simply say "Everywhere" when deciding where you cant carry. Schools, courts, government buildings. Those are all still gun-free zones. But the general public? You have the right to carry. Its no where near the hair-on-fire ruling that so many people online are saying it is.

Thats not quite true. She still has her competition with Bobo the Clown for who can say the dumbest thing each week. She has the lead so far this week, but theres still time for Bobo to take the lead!

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Wanna take a bet that the decision drops on Friday? They are waiting until the last possible second to drop this decision.

Right now, nothing. Literally Nothing. McConnell specifically said that the GOP would not release a platform for this years elections so that Democrats dont have policies to attack. Between the Cult of MAGA and the not-Democrat Republicans the GOP is pretty devoid of policy right now. Plenty of talking points, no real policy.

' I havent seen all of the details of the bill, but it doesnt look too bad. Theres language in there for expanded background checks, funding for Red Flag laws, and funding for mental health. It sounds like there are 14 GOP Senators who will vote for this. So it should pass the Senate. The question is will it pass the House. Theres very little, if any, GOP support for this bill in the House and Democrats hold a small majority. The reaction from the GOP base online has been pretty irate. Lots of people calling the GOP sellouts and calling for all 14 Senators to be primaried, so I would say you see very few, if any, GOP votes in the House. The reaction from Progressives when this deal was announced was just as bad. If they hold their votes and demand more from the bill that will doom it in the Senate. Theres zero chance that things like a gun ban or confiscation pass, and those are central pieces of what the progressives in the House want. Theres a long way to go on this still, and plenty of opportunities for this bill to collapse. But as it stands it looks like Congress is poised to pass the most extensive gun law in 30 years.

It goes further than that. Hispanics are moving toward the GOP at a pretty remarkable pace. The Rio Grande Valley has been a Democratic stronghold in Texas for a long time, and it just elected a GOP woman in a special election. All signs point to those districts probably flipping to the GOP this November as well. The few Democrats in Texas have been screaming to the party to stop talking about more fringe issues and address the core issues in the area only to be ignored or told to shut up. Illegal Immigration is a massive issue in Texas, and its playing right into the GOPs hand. As much as we are seeing the GOP partake in a circular firing squad in a lot of places, the Democrats are doing their best to keep up. The difference is that the GOP is being covered by a national atmosphere that greatly benefits their chances this year.

And? That doesnt matter in Texas. As dumb and as stupid as the big lie is, Democratic policies are seen as worse. So until either something changes with the big lie, or Democrats change their policy stances, Texas is firmly Red. Thats not even taking into account the very robust GOP atmosphere this year thanks to mid-term trends as well as a deeply unpopular Democratic President.

Spoiler alert: Texas isnt turning Blue. The GOP is going to win in Texas in a cakewalk. The best chance that Dems had to turn it Blue was when Beto ran against Cruz. Cruz is another uniquely unpopular person, and he still won. This year is going to be a really good year for the GOP, and they are going to cruise through their elections in Texas this year. All Texas is is a resource suck for Dems. The grassroots people throw money at the races there thinking it will make a difference but it wont. And then those resources are gone from races where Democrats need them and have an actual chance at winning.

Then they are cowards. They are doing everything to lay out why he needs to be charged. They absolutely must refer him to the DoJ for a criminal charge.

Im a little surprised its this high frankly. Its tough to get 60% agreement on anything anymore. That just goes to show how horrible the insurrection was. People are rightfully realizing that it was exactly what we all saw, and that it was an extremely dark day in our nations history. Trump absolutely should be charged for his role in fanning the flames of the insurrection. Failure to do so frankly is a dereliction of duty at this point.

40 feet. Thats way too damn close. They almost had a chance to grab the VP as they breached the capital. I honestly didnt expect much from this committee, but these videos and what has been reported so far is just shocking. I knew this was bad, but what we are finding is that we really were uncomfortably close to having a successful insurrection.

Im going to get absolutely nothing done today in anticipation of Game 1.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/13/democrats-interference-primaries/ Democratic meddling in GOP primaries prompts concern over elevating election deniers "All three have something else in common: They’re benefiting, either directly or indirectly, from a cluster of Democratic-associated groups spending millions of dollars in contested Republican primaries this month. In some cases these groups are attacking more mainstream Republicans and in others they are amplifying messages from the election-denying candidates. The apparent bet these organizations are placing is that such far-right candidates, who hold polarizing views on various issues, would be easier to defeat in the November midterms when a broader slice of the electorate will be casting ballots. But some Democrats warn that this is a precarious strategy in a year when the party is facing stiff head winds — one that could result in the election of Republicans promoting false claims who could use powerful posts to disrupt future votes." This feels like such an extraordinarily bad idea that its just hard to comprehend. Like, I get the idea behind this, but this isnt promoting candidates with some crazy ideas. This is promoting people who hold clearly anti-Democratic viewpoints. And they are doing it in a year when the GOP is going to make just massive gains across the board. The chance that this backfires is so ridiculously high that you cant be doing this kind of thing.