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I don't consider Black Dog Serenade to be a stand-alone so much as a companion to Waltz For Venus--or is it Ganymede Elegy? Whatever Episode #10 is... And it isn't just you. Tongpu's backstory background music TOTALLY seems inspired by Pink Floyd's "On The Run"!

Episode #42: Settlement Last time you remember, Jasley of Teiwaz, Tekkadan's former parent company, pulled pretty much the biggest dick move I've ever seen in a Gundam show, and sent Mikazuki and Akihiro's rage through the roof! Will he survive through the end of the episode? I sure hope not, but let's find out together tomorrow night (2/24/18)! Only Toonami--and only 9 episodes left!

Page 11: What Happened On A Certain Day In The Castle Town Asta's adventures with the Black Bulls continue, and he screams his head off some more! 11:30 PM Tomorrow Night (2/24/18). ONLY TOONAMI!!

Yeah, this is never an exact science. But still, 500K watching means 500K watching, whether it happened in 2015 or 2018. However, in terms of value to the network, 500K watching in 2018 is about as valuable as 1M watching in 2015 just because ratings have gone down across the board.

Yes, I'm afraid that's right. The 11:30-4 AM portion of the lineup usually beats the corresponding portion of the AOT rerun/Hellsing Ultimate X/FMA:Milos "unholy megabomb" from 12/13/14, but it didn't this week, nor did it on 1/27/18.

I'm anxious to see what this may mean. Please don't do anything with the current weekend structure of streaming the Toonami broadcast from 4 weeks ago! I guess I can go ahead and update the original post...

This "Reboot" should have just gone into sleep mode instead. (See what I did there??) Netflix may be a giant, but how long can they keep producing straight-up crap like this and the Death Note movie before they start to implode??

PI's report is in... http://www.programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-opposite-olympics-nba-star-saturday-night-tnt-dips-13-year-viewer-low/ PROGRAM Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000) 10:30 Dragon Ball Super 1002 0.46 595 11:00 Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 779 0.34 432 11:30 Black Clover 628 0.28 363 12:00a Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders 518 0.24 306 12:30a Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans 447 0.21 272 1:00a Hunter X Hunter (r) 440 0.20 253 1:30a Naruto: Shippuden (r) 457 0.20 261 2:00a Outlaw Star (r) 351 0.16 204 2:30a Space Dandy (r) 305 0.12 149 3:00a Cowboy Bebop (r) 304 0.12 159 3:30a Ghost in the Shell: 2nd Gig (r) 293 0.12 157 Averages: 502K total viewers; 286K adults 18-49. Both are the 2nd-lowest so far in 2018.

This just in: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-2-17-2018.html "Adult Swim’s late-night line-up performed as follows: DRAGON BALL at 0.46/0.33 compared to last week’s 0.47/0.38, BLACK CLOVER down 0.02 to 0.28, JOJO’S BIZARRE ADVENTURES down 0.02 to 0.24, MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM down 0.03 to 0.21/447K, HUNTER X HUNTER down 0.02 to 0.20/440K, NARUTO down 0.01 to 0.20/457K, OUTLAW STAR down 0.01 to 0.16/351K, SPACE DANDY down 0.05 to 0.12/305K, COWBOY BEBOP down 0.06 to 0.12/304K, and GHOST IN THE SHELL down 0.04 to 0.12/293K." Wow. Don't think we've EVER seen 0.12 before, and certainly not for all of the last 3 shows!

Which is why I posed the question. At this point, the post-apocalyptic Buu saga is just dragging on with nonsense and begging to be put out of its misery. Not that it isn't still entertaining; it's just that DBZ Kai is a pale shadow of what it used to be. Now don't get me wrong; I wouldn't mind DBZ Kai to get a rerun late in the night, but it has no business running again at 11 once The Final Chapters runs out, and I really hope we get some NEW BLOOD on Toonami that isn't Black Clover.

Well, at least DBS cracked a million this week: Total Viewers Show People Retention DBS 1,003,000 N/A DBZKFC 779,000 77.67% BClover 628,000 80.62% JoJo 518,000 82.48% Gundam 447,000 86.29% Adults 18-34 Show Rating Estimate Retention DBS 0.58 394,000 N/A DBZKFC 0.45 306,000 77.66% BClover 0.36 245,000 80.07% JoJo 0.29 197,000 80.41% Gundam 0.26 177,000 89.85% Adults 18-49 Show Rating Estimate Retention DBS 0.46 590,000 N/A DBZKFC 0.33 423,000 71.69% BClover 0.28 359,000 84.87% JoJo 0.24 308,000 85.79% Gundam 0.21 269,000 87.34% Adults 18-49 Show Rank Change DBS #8 +1 DBZKFC #15 -5 BClover #18 -4 JoJo #28 -4 Gundam #37 -3 P2+ Last Week This Week Change DBS 990,000 1,003,000 13,000 DBZKFC 809,000 779,000 -30,000 BClover 647,000 628,000 -19,000 JoJo 529,000 518,000 -11,000 Gundam 487,000 447,000 -40,000 AVERAGE -17,400 A 18-34 Last Week This Week Change DBS 0.56 0.58 0.02 DBZKFC 0.44 0.45 0.01 BClover 0.35 0.36 0.01 JoJo 0.30 0.29 -0.01 Gundam 0.28 0.26 -0.02 AVERAGE 0.00 A 18-49 Last Week This Week Change DBS 0.47 0.46 -0.01 DBZKFC 0.38 0.33 -0.05 BClover 0.30 0.28 -0.02 JoJo 0.26 0.24 -0.02 Gundam 0.24 0.21 -0.03 AVERAGE -0.03 Pretty flat with last week, though DBZ KFC did worse, which brought everything else down. I really would like to see how something that is NOT Dragonball would do at 11 PM in a normal lineup, which it looks like we're only gonna have to wait 4 months to see. Somehow I have a feeling Re:Zero could hold Super better.

No, it's the date of when THOSE episodes that aired on Toonami on Saturday night were aired in Japan. Obviously, if I was doing what you suggested, DBS and Clover would both be "2018". I was somewhat off for DBZ KFC and Cowboy Bebop, though. You are right about the franchises though. Besides Black Clover, the most recent franchise on the block is Space Dandy. That sounds pretty bad, but consider that most of the new Marvel movies are based on characters Stan Lee created in the 1960s. So ancient franchises really aren't such a bad thing. But if we are going to get something like Re:Zero, that would be a welcome change. And of course Tokyo Ghoul: Re would actually bring back a newer franchise than Dandy.

Turns out that wasn't a fluke, because as of Tuesday afternoon, the stream has actually fully switched to some late episodes of Lupin the 3rd! It appears to be Episodes 17-21, but the stream may advance to 22-26 tomorrow night? I doubt it, but if there's any week it would be nice to see that come back, it's this week. At least it's likely that 22-26 may show at some point in the future if not. It seems Episode 17 also has some bugs. Most of the video plays about 5 seconds slower than the audio, so that the whole thing is out of sync.

I stand corrected. Star Blazers 2199 actually aired in Japan in 2013. That said, it still would be most fitting between Shippuden and Space Dandy when Outlaw Star ends. However, as a direct replacement for Lupin at 1:30, it also would have been fine. But having Space Dandy now complicates things so I say if that IS the show, bring it on at 2 AM after Shippuden.

I didn't notice that at all! Edit: WOW--but that wasn't the case yesterday!

Yeah, this is a non-issue.

You could say watching Toonami on TV is like listening to the radio as opposed to Pandora or Spotify. People still do it, but it's not the "new thing" so millennials are less pre-disposed to watch it than the late Gen-X'ers (like me) who grew up with it. Guess that's one of the main reasons they got semi-capable streaming in 2015 even if it's feeble and in fact a pale shadow of what it used to be except on weekends. As for the age of the shows on Toonami as produced in Japan, well as of last week, when JoJo moved forward considerably, here's what we have now for the most recently aired block: DBS - 2016 DBZKFC - 2015* Black Clover - 2017 JoJo: SC BE - 2015 Gundam IBO - 2017 HxH - 2013 Shippuden - 2010 Outlaw Star - 1998 Space Dandy - 2014 Cowboy Bebop - 1999 GITS: SAC 2nd Gig - 2004 *This show is a remaster with much older animation, from 1995. Additionally, DBS, DBZKFC, JoJo: SC BE, Gundam IBO, and HxH are dub premieres. Finally, since yesterday was Presidents' Day, ratings will not be available until tomorrow.

Legal issues could be anything. I'm willing to bet it's not Megas XLR. I'm thinking probably Star Blazers 2199. Yes, I do believe he actually mentioned it at some point during Pre-Flight.

Yeah, I'm still thinking it's probably Star Blazers 2199. If that's the case, replacing Outlaw Star with it would make perfect sense, especially if O.S. remains at 2 AM. It would be a space opera replacing a space opera. It also was produced in 2011, making it about as old as the current episodes of Shippuden (2010), so it can stay ahead of it for thematic similarities with Dandy and Bebop.

Black Butler would be nice for Toonami. But it's in licensing hell since Aniplex decided not to let FUNimation renew their license to Season 1.

Oh yeah, of COURSE Part 1 was an ode to Dracula, despite the fact that JJBA vampires can suck blood through their claws and not just their fangs, which makes them even more terrifying! And of course I caught the similarities to Nightmare on Elm Street in Death 13's mini-arc!

Wait, we've seen this before... Boy, if Toonami does get this, their rageboner for not picking up Blue Exorcist: Kyoto Saga is hard as diamond!

Really now?? Black Clover AGAIN!?! They're really trying to shove this series down our throats! And it's just Pages 1-5 again. I get that the first time it was supposed to play got screwed on Monday, but why spam it AGAIN just 2 weeks later?! But I did just notice that in Pages 4 & 5, Sekke gets whacked in the nuts pretty good!

It's a stretch, but then again, this IS the same company who handed out exactly 1,337 piracy lawsuits a while back. So don't put anything past them. Besides, you can't deny it wouldn't be bad paired with Black Clover!

Since Black Clover Pages 1-5 have for some ungodly reason found their way back to the Toonami stream, this week might also be a great chance to rewatch episodes 6-10. Also, I have a strange feeling that Toonami will opt for a marathon on St. Patrick's Day and the show they marathon will be Black Clover, but I kinda hope I'm wrong. But I digress. Here's the review of Page 10: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/black-clover/episode-10/.124882 TL,DR: Rating - B+