OwlChemist81

AND THAT'S HOW PAN WAS BORN, HEE HEE!

"What in the Cosmos" indeed, Beerus. What in the cosmos indeed!!!

aALLLLLL RIGHT!!!!! Now that the premiere episode is over, let's enjoy the rest of the MARATHON!!!! Episode #121: "ALL-OUT WAR! The Ultimate 4-Fold Union vs. The 7th Universe's Total Offensive!!!"

Yeah, but looking at the ratings, you must agree we probably SHOULD have had one on the 4th of July. However, I understand WHY we didn't. CN was going to gobble up the 8 PM hour (starting this Monday) and lose Dragon Ball Super's encore, which probably would have thrown it in Breach-Of-Contract. Then again, I guess they could have just encored it at 4 AM instead... Looking forward to seeing what the October 12th schedule will be (with dub premieres of OPM S2 and Demon Slayer), but if I'm right, DBS 131 will be somewhere on there...

This must happen in Dragon Ball Super Heroes? If Adult Swim is smart, they'll commission a real made-for-TV movie of Heroes and air that during a reborn Month of Movies, along with DBS: Broly.

If you consider each individual week, there was no Dragon Ball on the block the last time they ran a marathon (Boruto) on December 29, 2018. But on a monthly basis? You have to go back to October 2014 to find a month that a Dragon Ball show didn't air at least once on Toonami. Assuming no Dragon Ball airs on October 12--and I don't think we can--it will be November 8, 2014 to October 5, 2019--ALMOST FIVE YEARS OF DRAGON BALL!!! Either way, it's definitely almost 5 years of Dragon Ball PREMIERES!

Episode #130: "Greatest Showdown of All: The Ultimate Survival Battle!" Man, I can hardly believe it! Only 2 episodes left to go!! And stick around here and discuss the marathon tonight! It all begins at 11 PM tonight (9/28/19)!! ONLY TOONAMI!!

While in theory, what you're saying about streaming vs. linear TV is true, e.g., more convenient, better array of devices, I'd like to see the hard numbers that back up your claims. Aside from Netflix, who notoriously don't release their viewership numbers, I don't think ANY of these streaming services, including the grand-daddy of them all, YouTube, quite match up to their more "traditional" linear TV counterparts for MOST programming. And while we can analyze this data until we're blue in the face, we're not the ones who actually use it to make programming decisions. For all we know, a show with a 271K 18-49 average and multiple berths in the Top 10 might be good enough for the network to acquiesce to a 2nd season based on revenue from advertisers.

Manga/Light Novel success =/= anime success. I'm thinking Season 2 of SAO-A replaces Demon Slayer, but it COULD replace another show and show up earlier. Now that full 18-49 numbers are in, the actual growth in gen:LOCK at 11:30 over AOTS3 Part 2 is 15.98% if you also consider the midnight premiere of the next-to-last episode of the latter. (My math in the previous post on this topic DID.)

Final Space is an excellent example of something else on [as] that did only slightly better in the ratings and carries the same level of star power (for example, Little Cato is played by Steven Yeun, formerly of The Walking Dead, and both contain David Tennant) in the same timeslot on a different night. I'd say if it gets a Season 3 (and Season 2 actually did BETTER on the whole on [as] than Season 1), then gen:LOCK has a pretty good chance at a Season 2, UNLESS the upheaval actually took place DURING gen:LOCK's run on Toonami in response to its underwhelming retention of Dragon Ball Super's viewership. If that's the case, it makes it a lot less likely, but we don't know when it took place. From what I understand, it probably happened a couple of weeks BEFORE gen:LOCK aired on Toonami, which means a decent chance of a Season 2 under CN Studios instead of RT.

Yes indeed. That "Outlier Society" might have something to do with it too. Here's hoping they get AT&T's big budget to re-hire most of those A-list VAs, but I suppose it will probably be more likely that new characters get replaced by NYAV Post or something like that.

I'd say if Final Space can get a 3rd season with the ratings it got on Monday nights this summer/early fall, gen:LOCK has a chance at a 2nd! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Space

FUNimation just released this Season 3 highlight reel! Yep, the nut punch is in there!

Aye, that it did. Fixed!

From what I can see in terms of 18-34, it sure is, at least for known 18-34 ratings since the beginning of 2018. It just edged out the previous lowest 11-11:30 retention percentage, 47.3%, occurring on August 3rd--the night gen:LOCK premiered. What's interesting is the other 6 episodes averaged a fairly respectable 64.4%, and that beats out AOTS3's 61.3%. So why were the first episode and the last duds? Did viewers in the young adult demographic already KNOW these episodes would be cut for time, enough to make such a large dent in viewership? And if that's the case, wouldn't a world premiere of a 2nd season pretty much negate those effects entirely? But I digress. We got more NUMBERS to talk about! https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-georgia-vs-notre-dame-is-most-watched-college-football-game-on-cbs-since-2013/ 9/21/2019 - Total Viewers Show Viewers Retention DBZ Kai 309,000 DBS (R) 241,000 77.99% TOONAMI DBS (P) 682,000 Gen:LOCK 406,000 59.53% Dr. Stone 371,000 91.38% FireForce 343,000 92.45% FoodWars! 319,000 93.00% B. Clover 304,000 95.30% Boruto 272,000 89.47% Shippuden 240,000 88.24% Gundam 235,000 97.92% LupinPt5 208,000 88.51% MHA (R) 223,000 107.21% AVERAGE 327,545 32 of 38 9/21/19 - Adults 18-49 Show Viewers Retention DBZ Kai 141,000 DBS (R) 128,000 90.78% TOONAMI DBS (P) 448,000 109.27% Gen:LOCK 265,000 59.15% Dr. Stone 221,000 83.40% FireForce 198,000 89.59% FoodWars! 192,000 96.97% B. Clover 183,000 95.31% Boruto 166,000 90.71% Shippuden 144,000 86.75% Gundam 163,000 113.19% LupinPt5 135,000 82.82% MHA (R) 157,000 116.30% AVERAGE 206,545 32 of 38 NO premiere show gained on the one before it in Total Viewers (MHA's rerun DID, oddly enough), which is unfortunate but fortunately also quite rare, and in 18-49, it turns out DBS, Gundam, and MHA all gained on their lead-ins. I'm willing to bet next week's DBS marathon has no show below 300K total viewers or 200K 18-49, but then again, the rerun isn't performing that well in the power hour. I guess we'll see...

Now now, we're not sure about that. I'm sure when all the data comes in (from Programming Insider) it will reveal that gen:LOCK actually performed quite a bit better than AOT Season 3. In fact, we DO have an idea: AOTS3 (not counting Episode #57 rerun) average: 377,700 total viewers; 234,300 adults 18-49; and 125,800 adults 18-34 (estimated) gen:LOCK average: 413,250 total viewers (+9.4%); 270,625 adults 18-49 (episode 8 estimated; +15.5%); and 149,625 adults 18-34 (estimated; +18.9%) Is that enough for a Season 2 in this day and age? Who knows...

Welp, gen:LOCK ended its run on Toonami with a bit of a THUD in Adults 18-34, casting hope for a Season 2 a bit further into doubt: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-9-21-2019.html Just missed at #52 was "Mobile Suit Gundam: Red Comet" with 235k/0.13 18-49, and at #68 was Lupin III Part 5 with 208k/0.10 18-49 While its retention of Dragon Ball Super's audience in total viewers and adults 18-49 were both pretty abysmal at 59.5% and 57.0% respectively, that for 18-34 was a level even worse than that. With a drop of a full 0.2 from 0.36 to 0.16, and from an estimated 245k adults 18-34 to just 109k, the audience plunged to only 44.5%. That's not a good omen if you were banking on Toonami co-producing a 2nd season. Also, this is the first time nothing after 3 AM has made the Top 50 since August 10th, when the earliest show to make it was Food Wars. Thus, Boruto's streak has continued into a 6th week, while Gundam's ends at 5 weeks. I guess it's pretty impressive that a network managed to get a show at 3 AM on the Top 50 for 5 consecutive weeks (and 7 total over the course of its run)!

Theoretically, Fire Force doesn't NEED to take a week off, as if it didn't, the closest we would be is an episode airing the Saturday after its Friday FUNimation premiere. But man, I tell you, if I were Japanese and I were into this show, I'd be PISSED! TWO breaks during its premiere run makes it...like any show on Toonami airing October through December!

There is also the outside chance this show gets an uncut re-run on the back end or even a marathon, when no one would be pissed off their favorite show is airing 15 minutes later. So, they could show all the unaired material then. At least that would be fair. I think his show deserves it, especially its first and last episodes. ESPECIALLY last Saturday's, because right before the commercial break, Chase burned through his uptime, but after the break, he was already back to the battle! What happened there??? Suggestion: Rerun gen:LOCK after Lupin (if Lupin moves to 3) at 3:30 or 4 AM, with 45-minute timeslots for episodes 1 and 8, and show EVERYTHING this time. (Episodes 2-7 would air just as they did during the premiere run). ESPECIALLY if you're serious about producing a 2nd season, Toonami!

To be fair, they counted down the minutes on the old dub of Dragon Ball Z, but they DON'T do that in Kai! https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/dragon-ball-super/episode-129/.128517 Grade: "B". Not gonna lie, I expected just a little better for this one, but the next two are going to be DYNAMITE!!! After all, these two episodes are the ones that packed stadia for bootleg streams in Latin American countries!

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/lupin-the-third-part-5/episode-15/.134377 Grade: "B+". The reviewer makes some great points about this being an episode that really defines Lupin and Fujiko's relationship, and if that's the central focus of Part 5, that would be pretty cool! Too bad we have to wait 2 weeks now until this story reaches its conclusion--or is it 3? I wonder how many episodes this "EPISODE" has...

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/boruto-naruto-next-generations/episode-49/.129010 Grade: "B+". I'm gonna have to rewatch this episode sometime; I might actually like it...

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma/episode-12/.89516 Grade: "B." And so concludes the first arc of Season 1. Ostensibly on October 5th, we get a new OP and ED!

https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/black-clover/episode-88/.148101 Rating: 2.5⭐. "...I'm counting on next week to bring the meatier content." Probably a safe bet, but of course we'll be waiting 2 weeks!

Thanks. I found another source which corroborates it. Of course, this changes my projection thus: September 20-21: Episode 11 airs in Japan, dub produced by FUNi NOW; Episode 9 airs on Toonami September 27-28: No Fire Force in Japan/on FUNi NOW or on Toonami due to DBS marathon October 4-5: No Fire Force in Japan/on FUNi NOW but Episode 10 airs on Toonami October 11-12: Fire Force returns in Japan/on FUNi NOW with Episode 12, and Episode 11 airs on Toonami So, when all the smoke clears, going forward it looks like Fire Force will be a week behind Japan and FUNi NOW on Toonami.