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The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
brianycpht replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Yeah, unfortunately I see that as the point that HxH officially moves to 2am.I think it just got a stay of execution because of Unicorn's poor performance. They'll probably have IBO at 1, Tokyo Ghoul at 1:30, and HxH at 2. -
The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
brianycpht replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
I have a feeling that Jojo might not go right into Stardust Crusaders since Demarco stated previously that it'll probably take a break between seasons. If it doesn't then I have a feeling we'll be seeing Mob Psycho 100 or Attack on Titan season 2. Demarco again last week in an interview mentioned how much he likes Mob. I think they wanted to do it earlier, but it wasn't ready yet so they couldn't put it on. Depending on if they had any recasts, they may not have to do much to those 3 episodes other than change a few of the characters (don't want to name them yet!) that have since been established to have accents (those characters have been confirmed to be keeping the same actors based on what we know so far)along with the narrator (they actually got the guy that narrated MMPR for those episodes!) The most important thing to consider of course, can they play "Walk like an Egyptian"? If not, don't even bother with the show ;D AoT season 2 most likely won't premere May 20th because Memorial Day is the following weekend so they may double up on Kai that week similar to what they did between Dimension W and Gundam IBO. If it isn't coming after Jojo, it'll probably be on June 3rd. Of course that could all go out the window if they feel it is a time sensitive situation and want to get it on ASAP. There is also the off chance that Super will have to take a break at some point. FUNimation is calling the movie adaptions "Season 1" and that was what was said it be running on Adult Swim. They may do that to keep the Dragonball train going a little longer while they are still playing Kai. TheN they can build hype with "All NEW EPISODES".I say as long as the episodes are done keep playing them. -
The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
brianycpht replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
I would like to see them maybe take a small break and put a 12 episode show on just for variety. I figure they'll give Stardust a shot because it encapsulates what Jojo really is. I agree with you in regards to it not being a dub premere right now. As I've said before, the problem now is that once a dub is released in any capacity it shows up on illegal streaming sites. I've seen a tweet right after episode 2 aired directing people who couldn't wait to see the rest to one of those sites saying that the whole things up there to watch right now. This is why I really don't like that FUNImation is releasing all of DBZ KAI TFC on DVD by June. I know it's DBZ, but why couldn't they just wait for Toonami to air it like Viz is doing with HXH? I suppose this is also what concerns me about AOT: that FUNimation will want to put it exclusively on FUNimation NOW! and not let Toonami get it right away. Even a few weeks will allow the episodes to go up on illegal sites and sort of hold back its potential on Toonami! If they can pull it off for late April they have an amazing opportunity to be so close to Japan, I'd hate to see it go to waste. -
The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
brianycpht replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
I don't think it's holding things back as much as people think. Maybe some viewers are watching at 8, skipping 11:30 and watching the rest of Toonami. Some , like me, watch both as well.About 800k( 300k adult )viewers watched at 8pm this week. I don't think everyone of those viewers would watch the 11:30 if 8:00pm didn't exist. I think your mostly hitting 2 different groups of people with different viewing habits. Many people can't watch at 8 due to being out at that time. Others won't be up to watch at 11:30 or casuals will be watching something else. I was worried about how Jack would do out front, but I was dead wrong. I'm just sad it's only for 10 weeks. It's doing great and I'm really enjoying it! It's mostly Kai I'm worried about. Last week there was a big drop off. Not as much this week, but as I've heard on the podcast "not even Dragonball can retain Dragonball" -
The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
brianycpht replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
What I find bizarre as well is that, if TOEI wants the 8pm airing there for kids to watch, then why is it uncensored? I've heard some mild cursing in the show, Mr.Satan, ect... . I think it came down to just this being the compromise they made in order to air the show. Who knows if other networks were even interested though. TOEI has a toy line to sell that is supposedly launching this summer so they want the show accessible to kids. I'm actually surprised they didn't demand that it premiere at 8pm on a weeknight, which would really make the Toonami airing pointless unless it was part of a new Toonami block. But due to what I stated above, its still not a kid censored version of the show and it is still part of "Adult Swim". They basically are counting on kids leaving the TV on past the CN sign off and watching. I'm not sure that the younger kids that TOEI is hoping will buy toys is even there. I think more adults will be buying DB toys : ). If the toyline doesn't sell, then it's possible that they may do a few things: 1) Start showing the censored version of DB Super on another kid channel or syndication if someone wants it. 2) Maybe accept the possibility that DB's primary audience in the US is young adults and teens and just let Toonami run it late at night. -
The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
brianycpht replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
I wonder if they can go to TOEI and see if its possible to switch. If AS thinks it's hurting potential, then maybe they can renogotiate with the next "season". TOEI was still under the impression that children are the primary audience over here. If they don't sell as many toys to kids when the line launches maybe they'll consider it. Unfortunately, I know kids who watch it and they don't even watch it on TV, they watch it on KA, even the dub -
The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
brianycpht replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Of course I think the 8pm is limiting it somewhat. I also read on various places like Reddit that some people just aren't around at 8 so they watch later. I'm sure others watch 8 and can't stay watch at 11:30. So in some regards I think they capture different audiences, but I'm sure there exists a subset of casual viewers who just watch Super outside of Toonami who would have otherwise watched at 11:30. I wish there was just the one airing though -
The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
brianycpht replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
This is about what I expected Jack to do. I sure hope that it did better than Family Guy again, this show is so damn good it deserves it! What is going on with DBZ KAI? It seems that ever since Toonami started earlier, the ratings it normally got as the first show just shifted over to whatever the new first show was despite it staying in the same timeslot! Seems to be normal drop-offs from KAI on down so far, but when KAI can't hit a million, everything is going to be lower in general Could be that people come for Jack and Super and are just not as big on KAI anymore? I'm curious to see how Super did this week and how well the retention was from Super to Kai. You think that that would have the best chance of retaining that audience it would be those two shows! People have suggested splitting them up, but do they have faith in any show, new or old, retaining the audience better? We'll see in the coming weeks if Tokyo Ghoul and whatever new shows are coming make a difference. Of course, once we get outside of March Madness, it could be a whole new ball game! -
The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
brianycpht replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Not sure if many people even knew it was going to encore there. I wish they did more to promote it. Especially after the reviews got out saying how good the premere episode was. Still though it's a decent number for weeknight action in prime time! A rerun of a show they own is free to them after all vs a syndicated show like Bob's! -
The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
brianycpht replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
They've been talking about moving him to once a week with more effort on online stuff since that seems to be more of where his fan base is. -
The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
brianycpht replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Looks like it got 1.04 M at 10.00 pm and 628k at 2:30. http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-wednesday-cable-originals-network-finals-3-15-2017.html -
Wow, Unicorn must not be performing to expectations to get bumped down like that. I hope they still pick up IBO2. If it continues to slide we may even see it swap with Naruto. I hope this is more than just a slight reprieve for HXH. It's a great show and deserves a great timeslot. I just have a feeling that the next new show could push it back again.
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One reason could be money. I think Jojo was expensive. The other reason is that they have something ready to go for April for that timeslot so there's no sense in moving it now. I don't think we are going into Stardust Crusadors right now. I think it's going to be something somewhat new and popular like Mob, possibly Titan.
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The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
brianycpht replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
And those numbers for Jojo and Gundam .....672 and 579 -
The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
brianycpht replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Oldsmar,? That's 30 minutes from me, I'll go see what's up! -
I hope that doesn't happen. That one will probably be given more leeway than One Piece did because it is a finite series with an ending point at least. They would prefer to finish out a show whenever possible. I'm hoping it actually lifts the 2AM hour up a little and gives Shippuden and Ghost a little boost.
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The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
brianycpht replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Jack did so amazing that it shut off their equipment -
My Predictions I think after Jojo, if no Stardust, then we get Mob. After that finishes, we'll get Startdust It's a safe assumption that IBO season 2 will probably replace Unicorn. This may move up to 1:00 AM, shifting Tokyo Ghoul down to 1:30. After Ghoul finishes, I think we'll get Lupin at 1 or 1:30. I'm going to go and also predict that after Jack finishes up, Attack on Titan season 2 will take over that slot. Another wildcard is whether or not Super is going to take breaks. The original press release said that "Season 1" of Super (26 episodes, which doesn't even get us past the movie arcs) was going to air. I don't know if they would do this or not. Doesn't seem too likely, but it may be a way to get more mileage out of the show, especially while DBZ KAI is still airing. I'll bet that they decided to part ways with One Piece sometime last year and HXH was really the true replacement in the long running Shonen department. They never were going to stick something brand new at 2:00 AM. They need sort of a steady 2:00 AM hour so they build up an audience for HXH throughout last year and then slide it in at 2:00 AM with Naruto hoping that it's established audience base goes along with it. It'll probably stay there for the duration of it's run now. Not too big a deal personally. I watch Toonami kind of weird. I watch Jack, the DB shows, Naruto, One Piece and Ghost in the Shell close to live. Then the next day, me and my wife watch HXH, Jojo, and Unicorn together in that order. So even though its at 2:00 AM, HXH always gets watched first in my house before the other 2 : ) I'm not 100% on Lupin, but I would like to see it myself.
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Maybe, maybe not. It's pretty possible they aren't quite sure. This isn't a good problem to have. They have a new show that needs a decent timeslot, which means something is moving down. Depending on what's coming next, they may not want to push down Jojo or Gundam, but do they really want to put HXH at 2am? As the next resident long runner, I can see the logic with putting it with Shippuden. But it's a decently performing dub premere that is about to get really good and deserves a wide audience. It's like deciding which of your children goes without dinner!