mochi Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 they claimed it also had a gay character but nobody has said anything about the gay character since the initial announcement so I'm not sure
ghostrek Posted April 12, 2017 Author Posted April 12, 2017 they claimed it also had a gay character but nobody has said anything about the gay character since the initial announcement so I'm not sure there is a gay character on the show try looking up stuff on trek news sites
mochi Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 there is a gay character on the show try looking up stuff on trek news sites here's hoping he isn't a useless character who does nothing but gossip (like every other Gay male character on TV in 2017 so far)
ghostrek Posted April 12, 2017 Author Posted April 12, 2017 here's hoping he isn't a useless character who does nothing but gossip (like every other Gay male character on TV in 2017 so far) I don't think so we are talking trek here come on
mochi Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 I don't think so we are talking trek here come on I know, but I mean with every other Gay character of 2017 so far they've fit that bill they've all been white Gay boys who are basically just background characters with lines and they don't seem to serve a purpose than to "dish" to the straight female characters about juicy gossip then vanish for the rest of the episode because they don't actually have a role in the story edit: they've also all been terminally single and treated as being the only Gay person within their universe, which Star Trek Discovery seems to already be guilty of since they said it would have "one gay character" not "a gay character and a love interest"
ghostrek Posted April 12, 2017 Author Posted April 12, 2017 I know, but I mean with every other Gay character of 2017 so far they've fit that bill they've all been white Gay boys who are basically just background characters with lines and they don't seem to serve a purpose than to "dish" to the straight female characters about juicy gossip then vanish for the rest of the episode because they don't actually have a role in the story edit: they've also all been terminally single and treated as being the only Gay person within their universe, which Star Trek Discovery seems to already be guilty of since they said it would have "one gay character" not "a gay character and a love interest" StarTrek does not so stereotypes
1pooh4u Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 If Sonequia Martin-Green is the transgender character I think people will be mad.
GaiusIuliusCaesar Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Next Gen had an entire species of genderless humanoids, riker even fell in love with one of them, then they turned it into an allegory for "turn gay people strait" "therapy" in that riker's love interest decided they were female, and this was illegal in their culture so they arrested, tried, and "cured" her of having a gender. She later claimed to have been cured, its implied she was brainwashed. One of the few episodes that ends with a negative outcome, but I think they were trying to be subversive and it seemed to work. At least its one of my favorite episodes. It probably wasn't intended to raise gender identity issues given when it was produced but it definitely carries meaning toward that subject. Star Trek is great in that it regularly does shit like this.
mochi Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 Next Gen had an entire species of genderless humanoids, riker even fell in love with one of them, then they turned it into an allegory for "turn gay people strait" "therapy" in that riker's love interest decided they were female, and this was illegal in their culture so they arrested, tried, and "cured" her of having a gender. She later claimed to have been cured, its implied she was brainwashed. One of the few episodes that ends with a negative outcome, but I think they were trying to be subversive and it seemed to work. At least its one of my favorite episodes. It probably wasn't intended to raise gender identity issues given when it was produced but it definitely carries meaning toward that subject. Star Trek is great in that it regularly does shit like this. I remember that the writers said the alien he fell in love with was specifically written to be played by a male actor but the network forbid it and insisted a female actor had to be cast to make it less gay
GaiusIuliusCaesar Posted April 12, 2017 Posted April 12, 2017 I remember that the writers said the alien he fell in love with was specifically written to be played by a male actor but the network forbid it and insisted a female actor had to be cast to make it less gay well it was the early 90's.
1pooh4u Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 because she's not trans? Yeah. I don't care it's called acting but some people are very sensitive to stuff like that. So I can see people getting upset because there are transgender actors out there. Sure, only 1 or 2 are what people would call "mainstream" and they might not fit the creators vision for the show but that will be besides the point.
Distortedreasoning Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 i didnt even know this was a thing. doesnt look very star treky.
1pooh4u Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 i didnt even know this was a thing. doesnt look very star treky. I think it's a streaming thing not a network television thing so that might have something to do with it but I might be talking straight out of my ass right now >
Distortedreasoning Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 I think it's a streaming thing not a network television thing so that might have something to do with it but I might be talking straight out of my ass right now > ah ok. yeah i probably wont be watching this then, unless it turns out to be really good. bring back sci fi to star trek. i want all the weird shit that comes with it.
1pooh4u Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 ah ok. yeah i probably wont be watching this then, unless it turns out to be really good. bring back sci fi to star trek. i want all the weird shit that comes with it. I probably won't watch it cuz I'm a lazy, stoner fuck who doesn't wanna bother to look for things
Distortedreasoning Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 I probably won't watch it cuz I'm a lazy, stoner fuck who doesn't wanna bother to look for things that almost sounds like me... almost.
1pooh4u Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 that almost sounds like me... almost. Is it spot on except for the being a fuck part?
1pooh4u Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 i don't think it matters. Sometimes I like when they get hot cisgender girls to play transwomen. Like Carmen in it's always sunny. It reminds ppl that some TS are really hot & passable. & in Star Trek, she should be extremely passable b/c of all the amazing medical technology they have. It would be ridiculous to have an unpassable transgirl in Star Trek unless like that character purposely didn't want to pass. But why wouldn't a TS want to pass? I think you're hot and passable, Laverne Cox is too but I couldn't see her doing Start Trek, I dunno why. What you're saying sounds perfectly reasonable to me but it's just like, maybe I been around the internet too long, where I've discovered, if something exists, there will be people to hate and complain about it. >
ghostrek Posted April 13, 2017 Author Posted April 13, 2017 I think you're hot and passable, Laverne Cox is too but I couldn't see her doing Start Trek, I dunno why. What you're saying sounds perfectly reasonable to me but it's just like, maybe I been around the internet too long, where I've discovered, if something exists, there will be people to hate and complain about it. > that life in general
1pooh4u Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 that life in general This is true but I'm noticing more and more people getting offended when no offense was meant to be given :it:
Kagome-san101 Posted April 13, 2017 Posted April 13, 2017 i am cool with it she's hot! get it girl! although they should probably have a real transgender person playing a transgender character... the same say they should have actors with DS playing characters with DS
ghostrek Posted April 13, 2017 Author Posted April 13, 2017 she's hot! get it girl! although they should probably have a real transgender person playing a transgender character... the same say they should have actors with DS playing characters with DS it only rumor star trek fans love to come up with theories about the newest version of trek coming out
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