One Piece Episode 742 Discussion

[CorbeauKarasu]

Episode 742: The Bond Between Father and Daughter! Kyros and Rebecca!

Fathers

Luffy absconds with Princess Rebecca in order to help her wish come true. But the Marines are hot on the trail of the fleeing Straw Hat Pirates - will they make their escape? Especially now that Trafalgar Law has snuck off somewhere for his own reasons!

 

ONLY TOONAMI

 

 

All pirates searching for the treasure One Piece must brave the second half of the Grand Line.

These wild and dangerous seas are known as The New World.

Gold Roger and his crew were the only men to ever chart these waters and learn all the secrets they held.

For the rest of the pirates in the world, this has proven to be the end of the road -

A Graveyard of Dreams.

[DangerMouse]

LOL Rebecca in that pic

[ben0119]

Will the arc that doesn't end finally end tonight?!

Edited Sunday at 06:04 AM by ben0119

[DangerMouse]

Shittiest citizens ever lmao

[DangerMouse]

Rebecca still calls him Lucy 🤣🤣

[ben0119]

Dumbass Citizens -

"Luffy must have been playing the long game and took out Doflamingo so he could have Rebecca all for himself!"

And you hypocrites tormented Rebecca for years with your sins of the fathers bullshit fallacy!

[saito34]

Do any enemies actually know Luffy's water weakness?

[Dark_Cloud_Overhead]

ROFL He took the meat on his way through.

[ben0119]

Damn Rebecca didn't ask for a theme park ride like this lmao.

Luffy ran through a building and stole a turkey leg LOL.

[ben0119]

Just now, saito34 said:

Do any enemies actually know Luffy's water weakness?

Pretty sure everyone knows about Devil Fruit users' weakness.

[ben0119]

This such a dumb and random thing for Kyros to do.  It really doesn't make sense for him to do this now that Doflamingo has finally been overthrown and Riku is back in charge.

[ben0119]

Man, in that dress, Rebecca looks a lot like her mother now.

[ben0119]

Are these supposed to be Italian accents or what?  Because Dressrosa is based on Rome?

[saito34]

Is this considered a new arc altogether because the Rebecca saga seems to be extending quite a bit?

[ben0119]

Damn, there's no clear path to the cabin?  And Rebecca is clumsy as hell all of a sudden.  Maybe because of emotional stress and running in that dress.

KYROS YOU DUN GOOFED!

[saito34]

7 minutes ago, ben0119 said:

Pretty sure everyone knows about Devil Fruit users' weakness.

I assumed they were different from fruit to fruit. Is it the same weakness?

[ben0119]

1 minute ago, saito34 said:

Is this considered a new arc altogether because the Rebecca saga seems to be extending quite a bit?

It's not over til they're off the island and everything is resolved lol.  This has to be a new rule, like no one is dead without a body LOL.

Also this whole subplot with this dumbass plan by Kyros was completely unnecessary.  I wonder if it's in the manga, since it seems out of character and doesn't make sense.  Kyros planned and worked for years to get rid of Doflamingo and now he just leaves??

[ben0119]

1 minute ago, saito34 said:

I assumed they were different from fruit to fruit. Is it the same weakness?

Every Devil Fruit user is weak to sea water and loses the ability to swim.  I suppose there are specific weaknesses as well.  Since Luffy is made of rubber he is bullet proof, but he can be cut by sharp weapons.  Luffy actually used water against Crocodile to weaken his sand powers.

[ben0119]

Rebecca didn't leave permanently did she?  She just will miss the royal address?

Fujitora you hypocrite!

[Dark_Cloud_Overhead]

Navy running into some "little" problems.

[ben0119]

Wow, the coliseum competitors are getting involved to hold off Fujitora!

LOL the Tontotta stole their weapons and Leo stitched the ships together.

LOL so they passed out from simping too much for Mansherry.  Side effects from the "transfusions."

Law and the former Navy boss?

Edited Sunday at 06:25 AM by ben0119

[ben0119]

Damn did they really have to take a picture of Corazone's dead body and send it over?!

I guess Law won't be leaving with the Straw Hats.

[Dark_Cloud_Overhead]

4 minutes ago, ben0119 said:

Damn did they really have to take a picture of Corazone's dead body and send it over?!

I guess Law won't be leaving with the Straw Hats.

Well, he accomplished his ultimate objective of getting revenge for Cora, so no reason for him to really continue his alliance with the Straw Hats anymore. That said, not sure what's left for him there in Dressrosa anymore, so I do wonder what he's gonna do from this point on. I figured he'd want to join back up with his old crew, so still would make sense for him to leave with them so he could get off the island and away from the navy.

[DangerMouse]

Kyros is an idiot.

Rebecca's leaving permanently all of a sudden?

So now Rebecca's not a crew member, not a fighter, and not even becoming queen lol...wow....

Edited Sunday at 06:40 AM by DangerMouse

[ben0119]

4 minutes ago, DangerMouse said:

Kyros is an idiot.

Rebecca's leaving permanently all of a sudden?

So now Rebecca's not a crew member, not a fighter, and not becoming queen lol...wow....

Yes very weird for Kyros to do this. 

I was hoping what was meant by what Violet said was Rebecca simply wouldn't be back in time for the royal address, not leaving permanently.  It would be dumb if Kyros and Rebecca have to live like outcasts now haha.

Haha that would've been something.  We don't get Waifu Princess Vivi as a crew member but instead we get Waifu Princess Rebecca.  But looks like that isn't happening either. 😄

[DangerMouse]

She basically went backward her entire arc lmao. WTF. 😭

[CorbeauKarasu]

11 hours ago, saito34 said:

Do any enemies actually know Luffy's water weakness?

it's not just his. it's every devil fruit user. so yeah.

[saito34]

2 hours ago, CorbeauKarasu said:

it's not just his. it's every devil fruit user. so yeah.

Got it. I thought they all had unique weaknesses for some reason.

[Top Gun]

A few things:

Dressrosa is vaguely based on Spain, hence the flamenco dancing and food and Spanish accents and such (or hell, the name "Donquixote" itself).

No, this isn't a new arc. Nearly every significant arc in One Piece features at least a few episodes' worth of denouement after the arc villain is defeated before the Straw Hats move on to their next destination. Dressrosa is a heftier arc than most, and there were a lot of subplots in play, so it's taking a bit more time than usual to wrap things up.

Yes, Kyros planning to leave was in the manga. He was ashamed of his sordid and bloodstained past, and he didn't want his association with Rebecca to get out and tarnish her name too. So he invented the story about Rebecca's actual father being some foreign prince and decided to leave the kingdom so that the truth would never come out. He's only doing all of this now because before then, the entire kingdom had forgotten about his very existence thanks to Sugar's Devil Fruit power. It may seem silly when looking in from the outside, but Kyros genuinely believes this is what's best for Rebecca's future safety and happiness. Remember, he wouldn't even let himself so much as hold her without wearing gloves first, because he didn't want her to be "tainted" by his bloodstained hands. That's how strong his sense of honor is.

Yes, every Devil Fruit user is equally vulnerable to sea water, because for reasons we don't fully understand yet the "curse" that makes Devil Fruits do what they do leads to the user being "rejected" by the sea. This is common knowledge among the Marines, hence their use of Sea Prism Stone-laced nets and handcuffs to capture Devil Fruit users.

Rebecca never showed any signs of wanting to travel with the Straw Hats when they left Dressrosa. She certainly wasn't a Vivi who spent several arcs journeying with them and got named an honorary Straw Hat. Her primary concern was trying to claim the Flame-Flame Fruit so that she could defeat Doflamingo. And yes, it's a common opinion that Rebecca's character took a real nosedive over the course of the arc, going from a semi-competent fighter to a crying damsel in distress. Mansherry is the far superior mandatory arc princess.

Remember that Law didn't just partner with the Straw Hats for the sake of taking out Doflamingo, though it was certainly a welcome side benefit. The alliance's primary goal was taking on the Emperor Kaido. As of this moment we don't know if Law is going to follow through with that, but he hasn't said anything yet to contradict it.

[saito34]

1 minute ago, Top Gun said:

A few things:

Dressrosa is vaguely based on Spain, hence the flamenco dancing and food and Spanish accents and such (or hell, the name "Donquixote" itself).

No, this isn't a new arc. Nearly every significant arc in One Piece features at least a few episodes' worth of denouement after the arc villain is defeated before the Straw Hats move on to their next destination. Dressrosa is a heftier arc than most, and there were a lot of subplots in play, so it's taking a bit more time than usual to wrap things up.

Yes, Kyros planning to leave was in the manga. He was ashamed of his sordid and bloodstained past, and he didn't want his association with Rebecca to get out and tarnish her name too. So he invented the story about Rebecca's actual father being some foreign prince and decided to leave the kingdom so that the truth would never come out. He's only doing all of this now because before then, the entire kingdom had forgotten about his very existence thanks to Sugar's Devil Fruit power. It may seem silly when looking in from the outside, but Kyros genuinely believes this is what's best for Rebecca's future safety and happiness. Remember, he wouldn't even let himself so much as hold her without wearing gloves first, because he didn't want her to be "tainted" by his bloodstained hands. That's how strong his sense of honor is.

Yes, every Devil Fruit user is equally vulnerable to sea water, because for reasons we don't fully understand yet the "curse" that makes Devil Fruits do what they do leads to the user being "rejected" by the sea. This is common knowledge among the Marines, hence their use of Sea Prism Stone-laced nets and handcuffs to capture Devil Fruit users.

Rebecca never showed any signs of wanting to travel with the Straw Hats when they left Dressrosa. She certainly wasn't a Vivi who spent several arcs journeying with them and got named an honorary Straw Hat. Her primary concern was trying to claim the Flame-Flame Fruit so that she could defeat Doflamingo. And yes, it's a common opinion that Rebecca's character took a real nosedive over the course of the arc, going from a semi-competent fighter to a crying damsel in distress. Mansherry is the far superior mandatory arc princess.

Remember that Law didn't just partner with the Straw Hats for the sake of taking out Doflamingo, though it was certainly a welcome side benefit. The alliance's primary goal was taking on the Emperor Kaido. As of this moment we don't know if Law is going to follow through with that, but he hasn't said anything yet to contradict it.

Thanks for all this info!

I love this level of lore. I know One Piece is stuffed with lore and that's part of the reason I like it so much. I just haven't had a chance to get fully up to speed on it.