September schedules are out, Shippuden is being replaced by the most brutal anime of all

[Toonamiguy321]

[MasqueradeOverture]

Just waiting for Zaslav to kill the linear channels at this point.

[OwlChemist81]

13 minutes ago, MasqueradeOverture said:

Just waiting for Zaslav to kill the linear channels at this point.

If Toonami would run as a block on max I would not hate that. But I think it will at least survive 2025. After that, the future is uncertain.

[OwlChemist81]

17 minutes ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

Bro, One Piece is not "nothing". It could be worse--at least they're not contracting the block. Since they need the extra slot for Uzumaki, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

[Jman]

I would have saved double OP for Season 2 of the Netflix series.  
 

Granted I don’t know if Cartoon Network, much less Toonami will last that long.  

[katt_goddess]

That was a bullet dodged.

I was braced for another 'TOTALLY SPIES' joke and ready to ban out of spite. 

 

[Toonamiguy321]

4 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

Bro, One Piece is not "nothing". It could be worse--at least they're not contracting the block. Since they need the extra slot for Uzumaki, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt on this one.

It’s absolutely nothing, especially since this year every time double OP shows up it’s a “pay it forward” scam where it also has to be removed entirely for as many weeks as it aired double. 
 

Contracting the block is preferable to the blue balling. We don’t need 7 slots if they refuse to utilize 7 slots. 
 

Demarco promised us he had a plan in place for Shippuden ending. Yes, it was foolish of me of all people to put ANY stock into a single syllable Demarco uttered, but I did and now I’m mad. Uzumaki isn’t an excuse. We are still at 4 premiers when we should be at 5, so that could have just taken the Ninja Kamui opening. 

[OwlChemist81]

I don't hate 4 premieres on the Saturday block because we kinda have 2 on Rewind, even if it's just the audio.

[PokeNirvash]

I agree with Al, "nothing" would be if a slot was dropped from the block.

We get it, you hate One Piece, shut the fuck up about it already.

[Otakuninja9000]

If they weren't stupid, either Suicide Squad Iseaki, Kite Man: Hell Yeah! or Batman: Caped Crusader would be on in September.

[Jman]

Just now, Otakuninja9000 said:

If they weren't stupid, either Suicide Squad Iseaki, Kite Man: Hell Yeah! or Batman: Caped Crusader would be on in September.

I’m pretty sure all of those are off limits, but the last one especially since it’s likely exclusive to Amazon.

[brianycpht]

They will not stop stalling and saving for these type of shows until they are either over or completely off the table. Meanwhile we get months of no new shows because they are saving money and room for whenever Sony decides it’s ok to air MHA or Demon Slayer. It’s easier for them to stall and just say they are waiting for these shows than to go look at new ones 

Meanwhile, they won’t look at anything else 

Edited August 16 by brianycpht

[Sketch]

5 hours ago, Toonamiguy321 said:

It’s absolutely nothing, especially since this year every time double OP shows up it’s a “pay it forward” scam where it also has to be removed entirely for as many weeks as it aired double. 
 

Contracting the block is preferable to the blue balling. We don’t need 7 slots if they refuse to utilize 7 slots. 
 

Demarco promised us he had a plan in place for Shippuden ending. Yes, it was foolish of me of all people to put ANY stock into a single syllable Demarco uttered, but I did and now I’m mad. Uzumaki isn’t an excuse. We are still at 4 premiers when we should be at 5, so that could have just taken the Ninja Kamui opening. 

Let’s be a wee bit reasonable here. Starting a show three weeks before Uzumaki and having to shift it down for 4 weeks then preempted for at least 1 then maybe moved back up isn’t a great way to start a show. It makes more sense to wait till November when they’ll have 3 openings besides replacing Shippuden.

That’s the mess they made for themselves.

But yeah… no one should have put any stock in DeMarco saying there was a plan for replacing Shippuden. They aren’t yet using OG Naruto for filler which is surprising to me but maybe that’s coming in November.

[OwlChemist81]

6 hours ago, brianycpht said:

They will not stop stalling and saving for these type of shows until they are either over or completely off the table. Meanwhile we get months of no new shows because they are saving money and room for whenever Sony decides it’s ok to air MHA or Demon Slayer. It’s easier for them to stall and just say they are waiting for these shows than to go look at new ones 

Meanwhile, they won’t look at anything else 

That may be, but we should have reason to be optimistic for 2025. With both Fire Force and Dr. Stone coming with new multi-cour seasons, at least there will likely be solid replacements.

And on the other side of the coin is Lazarus and whatever Aniplex might be able to provide. I think we'll get something out of left field in the vein of Lycoris Recoil, perhaps even in November 2024.

[brianycpht]

Just now, OwlChemist81 said:

That may be, but we should have reason to be optimistic for 2025. With both Fire Force and Dr. Stone coming with new multi-cour seasons, at least there will likely be solid replacements.

And on the other side of the coin is Lazarus and whatever Aniplex might be able to provide. I think we'll get something out of left field in the vein of Lycoris Recoil, perhaps even in November 2024.

Hopefully it’s not more CR games where Toonami has set money aside for these shows, but has no idea when they can air them. Leading to more schedule stalling 

[OwlChemist81]

1 hour ago, Sketch said:

Let’s be a wee bit reasonable here. Starting a show three weeks before Uzumaki and having to shift it down for 4 weeks then preempted for at least 1 then maybe moved back up isn’t a great way to start a show. It makes more sense to wait till November when they’ll have 3 openings besides replacing Shippuden.

That’s the mess they made for themselves.

But yeah… no one should have put any stock in DeMarco saying there was a plan for replacing Shippuden. They aren’t yet using OG Naruto for filler which is surprising to me but maybe that’s coming in November.

I'm guessing the plan was MHA and it fell through somehow, at least for now.

But in the Dressrosa arc, double One Piece WORKS. And I am REALLY glad Operation S.O.P. already succeeded. Though the newest episode raises more questions than answers them, hopefully the next will answer a few. And if not, maybe just maybe the September power hours will cover the meat of another major plot thread.

[OwlChemist81]

4 minutes ago, brianycpht said:

Hopefully it’s not more CR games where Toonami has set money aside for these shows, but has no idea when they can air them. Leading to more schedule stalling 

It may sound crazy, but I really don't mind the stalling all that much. With the exception of R&MTA, it's not like most of these shows get aired elsewhere on the schedule. Yes, there's Uzumaki, but that's just a miniseries. So I really don't mind taking up time on the Saturday schedule to give them another spin, which is definitely something I wouldn't mind for Lycoris Recoil and Zom 100.

[Toonamiguy321]

4 hours ago, Sketch said:

Let’s be a wee bit reasonable here. Starting a show three weeks before Uzumaki and having to shift it down for 4 weeks then preempted for at least 1 then maybe moved back up isn’t a great way to start a show. It makes more sense to wait till November when they’ll have 3 openings besides replacing Shippuden.

That’s the mess they made for themselves.

But yeah… no one should have put any stock in DeMarco saying there was a plan for replacing Shippuden. They aren’t yet using OG Naruto for filler which is surprising to me but maybe that’s coming in November.

3 weeks of a 12 episode show is 1/4 of the show. Let’s stop acting like the audience can’t follow minor schedule shuffles. Back in the day it didn’t matter how close things were, when a slot was open, a slot was filled. If something had to move a few weeks later, it moved. It’s also not good to take 3 straight weeks off a 12 episode show but hey ho Zom wants to chat. 

The impending mess in November is why this development is bad news because they have never once in their history handled a multi slot shakeup well. The 3 lead slots? Unprecedented. They may use DST as a shroud for a 30 minute cut as they have done in the past, but unlike my desire for that to be a rerun, it would instead be a premier. But even then, I’d still expect them to drop the ball on just 2 replacements. And then when they do, you guys will pivot to “well, you can’t expect them to start a new show in November, come on think of the marathons!” 
 

3 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

That may be, but we should have reason to be optimistic for 2025. With both Fire Force and Dr. Stone coming with new multi-cour seasons, at least there will likely be solid replacements.

IF we get them. And then the follow up question, when? If MHA is the baseline, we may have a 2-3 month wait until the ENTIRE season is dubbed before Toonami can air them. 2-3 months of stalling, not filling the time in logically. 
 

3 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

But in the Dressrosa arc, double One Piece WORKS. And I am REALLY glad Operation S.O.P. already succeeded. Though the newest episode raises more questions than answers them, hopefully the next will answer a few. And if not, maybe just maybe the September power hours will cover the meat of another major plot thread.

It “works” if you give a shit about One Piece on Toonami. Which now, without the Naruto shaped carrot on a string, many people no longer have to. For those people, it’s a dead hour. Or bedtime, since there is nothing of value after it either. 
 

3 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said:

It may sound crazy, but I really don't mind the stalling all that much. With the exception of R&MTA, it's not like most of these shows get aired elsewhere on the schedule. Yes, there's Uzumaki, but that's just a miniseries. So I really don't mind taking up time on the Saturday schedule to give them another spin, which is definitely something I wouldn't mind for Lycoris Recoil and Zom 100.

The sane people in the audience are one and done watchers. If Toonami has no fresh offerings, that’s encouragement to limit viewership, or just not tune in at all. The stalling efforts slowly but surely erode long term viewers who grow weary of the same song and dance over and over, and as it repeatedly happens it becomes more and more apparent to even the biggest optimists that the block will never branch out to fill time. 

[Sketch]

No if they don’t have 3 shows to start in November I will definitely not reason it’s because of marathons. Any use of marathons after October 26th and before the 2nd to last week of December is a stall tactic. They don’t always do one in November and we’ve had enough off weeks to fill the quota. They’d just be punting till January if they don’t have 3 new block premieres in November. The only marathon I won’t give them shit for is an MHA catch-up marathon the first weekend of November if season 7 starts the next week but even that is only sensible because they stupidly put MHA S6 reruns on and seem intent on reairing all of it even double stripping it.

[Jman]

Time was during the dreg days of Adult Swim Action (2007-2012) the fear that the block would be canceled forever was due to economic factors, the Great Recession, and DeMarco's shit taste.  Production of anime was down and if it didn't mean their punishing standards, well fuck you, besides a few years of SyFy and Ani-Monday, they were the only game in town and very willing to lord that fact over the viewers not willing to shell out $30 for 4 episodes of a show.  Family Guy was going to take over Saturdays and that would be it.  That was a tangible issue people could whine about.  Get different shows.  Loosen up your standards.  Etc, etc.  

Now the problem is that cable is dying.  Even sports are migrating to the streaming model, with the uber-service being blocked, sports included with Max, Peacock, and other subscriptions, not to mention the billions in losses on the traditional studios blamed squarely on the linear channels.  Do the shows they get really matter if no one is watching the channel anymore?  It's starting to feel like the house is falling down around us and we're arguing over the wallpaper.

 

[Toonamiguy321]

1 hour ago, Jman said:

It's starting to feel like the house is falling down around us and we're arguing over the wallpaper.

 

I want to look at nice wallpaper while the house falls apart. We have established that we are well beyond the point of preventing the house from crumbling, so just let me enjoy my final moments in it. Because I don’t care what happens, I ain’t getting out of this chair. No sir.