StarPanda Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 Shippuden Episode 300 Discussion Episode Title: The Mizukage, the Giant Clam, and the Mirage 3
OwlChemist81 Posted June 13, 2020 Posted June 13, 2020 (edited) Good job! This also reminds me I need to watch 299 because I fell asleep during it last week. Apparently it was a doozy though! Hard to believe after starting with Episode 1 WAAAAAY BACK in a completely different era on 1/4/14, we're FINALLY reaching 300 tonight! Edited June 13, 2020 by OwlChemist81
mochi Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 **deep inhale** **followed by long exhale of boredom** well at least it's not an endless repeat or one of AS's worst shows
ben0119 Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 Who are the 2 cute girls with Temari? I think they've been shown before. 1
OwlChemist81 Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 After the last 3 or 4 weeks, this episode kinda feels like a letdown...
ben0119 Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 After all that, they escape? Leaving this guy to the grunts, Gaara?
ben0119 Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 Hey that one's mine. Hahaha. "And you call yourselves Shinobi. How awkward." LMAO 1
DangerMouse Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 Embarrassing as fuck Temari the only one there with any skill and Kishimoto still won't let her do shit. Oh one of those looked a lot like Kurotsuchi lol
saito34 Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 HBO Max/Studio Ghibli commercial bastards know their audience 1 1
DangerMouse Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, saito34 said: HBO Max/Studio Ghibli commercial bastards know their audience Yeah lol 1
ben0119 Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 Just now, saito34 said: HBO Max/Studio Ghibli commercial bastards know their audience Why the fuck did the Ghibli movies not go to Disney Plus? Just seems wrong to not be on Disney but instead HBO, given everything Disney contributed to licensing, promoting, distributing and localizing those films in the U.S. And if Disney did those dubs how can HBO get them?
OwlChemist81 Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, saito34 said: HBO Max/Studio Ghibli commercial bastards know their audience It also aired earlier tonight during DBZ Kai. Hopefully they throw Toonami a bone eventually and let them do another Month of Miyazaki if they have trouble getting shows otherwise! 2
mochi Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 Just now, ben0119 said: Why the fuck did the Ghibli movies not go to Disney Plus? Just seems wrong to not be on Disney but instead HBO, given everything Disney contributed to licensing, promoting, distributing and localizing those films in the U.S. And if Disney did those dubs how can HBO get them? Disney dropped the rights to the Ghibli films a few years back, they're now owned by "G-Kids" the recording studio Disney hired to dub them 1
saito34 Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, ben0119 said: Why the fuck did the Ghibli movies not go to Disney Plus? Just seems wrong to not be on Disney but instead HBO, given everything Disney contributed to licensing, promoting, distributing and localizing those films in the U.S. And if Disney did those dubs how can HBO get them? I have no idea. It's a good question and I'm sure theres a story behind it. The only Ghibli movie I could find that wasnt on HBO max was Grave of the Fireflies" (Hulu). Edited June 14, 2020 by saito34
saito34 Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 1 minute ago, OwlChemist81 said: It also aired earlier tonight during DBZ Kai. Hopefully they throw Toonami a bone eventually and let them do another Month of Miyazaki if they have trouble getting shows otherwise! Pffft I would love that but I dunno. 1
DangerMouse Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, ben0119 said: Why the fuck did the Ghibli movies not go to Disney Plus? Just seems wrong to not be on Disney but instead HBO, given everything Disney contributed to licensing, promoting, distributing and localizing those films in the U.S. And if Disney did those dubs how can HBO get them? Probably because GKids now owns the rights to the movies in the US and didn't want to make the exclusive streaming agreement with Disney, the previous owner of the movies. 1
OwlChemist81 Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 Wow, I almost crashed! Well, I guess that's the end of the night! LATER!! 1
ben0119 Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 Water gun indeed. Well, Tsuchikage looks super dead.
ben0119 Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, DangerMouse said: Probably because GKids now owns the rights to the movies in the US and didn't want to make the exclusive streaming agreement with Disney, the previous owner of the movies. I'll believe you. Mochi doesn't have the best credibility lol. But that explains that. Still wish they were on Disney Plus. My Aunt is trying to get her HBO Now switched to HBO Max though. 1
DangerMouse Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, ben0119 said: I'll believe you. Mochi doesn't have the best credibility lol. But that explains that. Still wish they were on Disney Plus. My Aunt is trying to get her HBO Now switched to HBO Max though. I have no idea if that's the actual reason or if HBO just offered GKids the sweeter deal than Disney, but GKids does own them now so they had to be the ones to finally convince Ghibli to let them be streamed at all. And they're only leasing streaming rights because they want to keep their physical rights so they'd probably rather do it with someone other than the previous owner. Edited June 14, 2020 by DangerMouse 1
HardcoreHunter Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, ben0119 said: Why the fuck did the Ghibli movies not go to Disney Plus? Just seems wrong to not be on Disney but instead HBO, given everything Disney contributed to licensing, promoting, distributing and localizing those films in the U.S. And if Disney did those dubs how can HBO get them? From what I understand Disney saw Ghibli as a tumor and every film in their eyes was a flop. Many of the films couldn't crack past 5 million in the US, the largest boxoffice ponyo only made 19 million. At the time Disney had the thought that every film needed to make a half a billion dollars; why? Because in 99 toy story 2 made that, so every film should make that. They adopted the same train of thought with Frozen making a billion dollars, and now seeing anything that doesn't make a billion dollars as a flop. So they eventually sold of the rights to all Ghibli films to a company called GKIDS in 2017. GKIDS has leased the streaming license to HBO while keeping the rights to physical media release. That is how Disney doesn't have stake in Ghibli anymore and HBO does. 1
HardcoreHunter Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 Also 200 weeks till Naruto finally finishes it's run of "new" dubbed episodes. I wonder if this series would have been treated better like Bleach had it been picked up by CN/Toonami from the start and not XD. 1
OwlChemist81 Posted June 14, 2020 Posted June 14, 2020 Yeah, great twist this thread took at the end toward the tenuous relationship between Disney and the ATT family! I hope we end up seeing an occasional Miyazaki film on Toonami once again! They could even throw in an "HBO max presents" or something...
ben0119 Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 On 6/14/2020 at 2:03 AM, HardcoreHunter said: From what I understand Disney saw Ghibli as a tumor and every film in their eyes was a flop. Many of the films couldn't crack past 5 million in the US, the largest boxoffice ponyo only made 19 million. At the time Disney had the thought that every film needed to make a half a billion dollars; why? Because in 99 toy story 2 made that, so every film should make that. They adopted the same train of thought with Frozen making a billion dollars, and now seeing anything that doesn't make a billion dollars as a flop. So they eventually sold of the rights to all Ghibli films to a company called GKIDS in 2017. GKIDS has leased the streaming license to HBO while keeping the rights to physical media release. That is how Disney doesn't have stake in Ghibli anymore and HBO does. Well, that's fucking lame. So Disney doesn't sell the DVDs or blu-rays anymore, either? I remember they costed like $25-30 dollars apiece... and most movies weren't that expensive back then.
HardcoreHunter Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, ben0119 said: Well, that's fucking lame. So Disney doesn't sell the DVDs or blu-rays anymore, either? I remember they costed like $25-30 dollars apiece... and most movies weren't that expensive back then. You can probably find old releases, but all the ones I'm seeing on amazon are released via G Kids. Disney has no mention on any of the boxes. 1
ben0119 Posted July 12, 2020 Posted July 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, HardcoreHunter said: You can probably find old releases, but all the ones I'm seeing on amazon are released via G Kids. Disney has no mention on any of the boxes. But didn't Disney do the dubs? Are the dubs gone, then?
mochi Posted July 14, 2020 Posted July 14, 2020 On 7/11/2020 at 11:35 PM, ben0119 said: But didn't Disney do the dubs? Are the dubs gone, then? the G-Kids releases are the Disney Dubs....just minus the Disney Branding 1
ben0119 Posted July 14, 2020 Posted July 14, 2020 Just now, mochi said: the G-Kids releases are the Disney Dubs....just minus the Disney Branding But, those expensive Disney actors did the dubs...
mochi Posted July 14, 2020 Posted July 14, 2020 Just now, ben0119 said: But, those expensive Disney actors did the dubs... Disney doesn't own those actors basically G-kids dubbed the movies and Disney just distributed them....now G-kids distributes them themselves....G-kids is basically just an anime dubbing studio that only produces dubs using big superstar Hollywood actors rather than unknown local actors like Funimation, Viz, and Sentai 1
ben0119 Posted July 14, 2020 Posted July 14, 2020 1 minute ago, mochi said: Disney doesn't own those actors basically G-kids dubbed the movies and Disney just distributed them....now G-kids distributes them themselves....G-kids is basically just an anime dubbing studio that only produces dubs using big superstar Hollywood actors rather than unknown local actors like Funimation, Viz, and Sentai Ooooh interesting. Because G-kids sounds like the most basic bitch generic off-brand name for a licensing and dubbing company I've ever heard, haha. So then nothing has been lost. Good to know. Now to try to rangle things to get HBO Max set up. I don't think my Aunt ever tried to get it to work. Still just stuck with HBO Now I think.
mochi Posted July 14, 2020 Posted July 14, 2020 1 minute ago, ben0119 said: Ooooh interesting. Because G-kids sounds like the most basic bitch generic off-brand name for a licensing and dubbing company I've ever heard, haha. So then nothing has been lost. Good to know. Now to try to rangle things to get HBO Max set up. I don't think my Aunt ever tried to get it to work. Still just stuck with HBO Now I think. yeah, basically once Ghibli became a household name in the states it no longer needed the Disney branding to sell here...so G-Kids was able to break away from Disney and keep dubbing Ghibli and Ponoc movies 1
HardcoreHunter Posted July 14, 2020 Posted July 14, 2020 (edited) mochi explained it better, I didn't read ahead Edited July 14, 2020 by HardcoreHunter
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