1938 Packard Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 "For every tonne of coal burned, approximately 2.5 tonnes of CO2e are produced" Umm... burned coal produces two and a half times its original weight in gasses? Anyway, here's the article I'm quoting. https://whatsyourimpact.org/greenhouse-gases/carbon-dioxide-emissions Or, is there a different standard of weight measure for gasses than solids?
Professah Tex Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Well there are other substances that are usually burned with it that actually provide for the chemical reaction to take place. That's my best guess anyway.
André Toulon Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 The same way a single burning cigarette creates more toxins than an unlit cigarette in your pocket. Coal has a weight, atoms have a weight, molecules have a weight........ by measuring the weight of the molecules in the gas is how you find the weight produced which will be more depending on the molecular makeup of the gas. This is like 9th grade Chem. Oh yeah, I forgot.....You didn't graduate.
1938 Packard Posted September 28, 2017 Author Posted September 28, 2017 The same way a single burning cigarette creates more toxins than an unlit cigarette in your pocket. Coal has a weight, atoms have a weight, molecules have a weight........ by measuring the weight of the molecules in the gas is how you find the weight produced which will be more depending on the molecular makeup of the gas. This is like 9th grade Chem. Oh yeah, I forgot.....You didn't graduate. So, if I pass your explanation to chemical engineer, he''ll endorse it?
katt_goddess Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 So, if I pass your explanation to chemical engineer, he''ll endorse it? If it's a real chemical engineer and not someone who just makes meth behind the casino dumpster, then yes, they will.
André Toulon Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 So, if I pass your explanation to chemical engineer, he''ll endorse it? I mean, you can ask a ninth grader....You don't have to pretend you know any chemical engineers and fly back here with some bullshit story about your friend, Bob Sacamano , that you totally didn't make up who said something different.
1938 Packard Posted September 28, 2017 Author Posted September 28, 2017 I mean, you can ask a ninth grader....You don't have to pretend you know any chemical engineers and fly back here with some bullshit story about your friend, Bob Sacamano , that you totally didn't make up who said something different. I was referring to one of my younger brothers. He's a chemical engineer, currently employed by Exxon.
1938 Packard Posted September 28, 2017 Author Posted September 28, 2017 If it's a real chemical engineer and not someone who just makes meth behind the casino dumpster, then yes, they will. So, if I burn a pack of cigarettes, it will produce two and a half pounds of tar and nicotine?
André Toulon Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 I was referring to one of my younger brothers. He's a chemical engineer, currently employed by Exxon. Then why did you come here to ask us?
André Toulon Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 So, if I burn a pack of cigarettes, it will produce two and a half pounds of tar and nicotine? Tar and nicotine aren't gasses.....What are you even talking about.
1938 Packard Posted September 28, 2017 Author Posted September 28, 2017 Tar and nicotine aren't gasses.....What are you even talking about. You're right, they are solid particles that float in the air. To be fair, how much carbon monoxide and carbon dioxide are produced by burning the cigs?
1938 Packard Posted September 28, 2017 Author Posted September 28, 2017 Then why did you come here to ask us? I don't personally believe that an extracted byproduct is ever going to outweigh the original product. I wanted to hear people tripping over themselves in some attempt at making it so.
bnmjy Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Well, clearly the extra weight comes from combustion. Fire needs oxygen, O, that comes from the atmosphere, coal has carbon, C, and the chemical reactions involved produce CO2. In other words C+O=CO2. Obviously, the real chemical formula involved in the combustion is far more complicated, but this should give you an idea of where the extra weight comes from. There.
mthor Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Why is the title phrased as a question? You don't really want an answer or a discussion, you just want a chance to spread the gospel of shit happens.
André Toulon Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 How would I know, I don't have any of the tools to produce those results.....Not even the cigarette.......You have some. You tell me.
André Toulon Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 I don't personally believe that an extracted byproduct is ever going to outweigh the original product. I wanted to hear people tripping over themselves in some attempt at making it so. What you believe and facts have always been woefully distant, nay polarizing entities.......Not sure how anyone would trip over themselves telling you that what you believe is wrong.
1938 Packard Posted September 28, 2017 Author Posted September 28, 2017 Well, clearly the extra weight comes from combustion. Fire needs oxygen, O, that comes from the atmosphere, coal has carbon, C, and the chemical reactions involved produce CO2. In other words C+O=CO2. Obviously, the real chemical formula involved in the combustion is far more complicated, but this should give you an idea of where the extra weight comes from. There. So, the oxygen is sucked out of the air and added to the carbon? That's a reasonable explanation. You're saying the carbon dioxide is not a direct extract of the coal alone. I like your logic. You win.
1938 Packard Posted September 28, 2017 Author Posted September 28, 2017 Why is the title phrased as a question? You don't really want an answer or a discussion, you just want a chance to spread the gospel of shit happens. This time, a reasoned answer was produced and I'm astounded.
scoobdog Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 "For every tonne of coal burned, approximately 2.5 tonnes of CO2e are produced" Umm... burned coal produces two and a half times its original weight in gasses? Anyway, here's the article I'm quoting. https://whatsyourimpact.org/greenhouse-gases/carbon-dioxide-emissions Or, is there a different standard of weight measure for gasses than solids? Lol, so you don't get how adding two oxygen atoms to a carbon atom adds weight?
1938 Packard Posted September 28, 2017 Author Posted September 28, 2017 Lol, so you don't get how adding two oxygen atoms to a carbon atom adds weight? Actually, I didn't until bnmjy explained it here. I was missing the part about oxygen being added from surrounding air. Bnmjy put it all in perspective.
André Toulon Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Lol, so you don't get how adding two oxygen atoms to a carbon atom adds weight? Kenny is killin' me with the grade school questioning in an attempt to stump us. Like he is really discovering all of these things right now. His next thread will be can you name all 50 States?
André Toulon Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Actually, I didn't until bnmjy explained it here. I was missing the part about oxygen being added from surrounding air. Bnmjy put it all in perspective. Wow, you really should be nowhere near cleaning supplies
1938 Packard Posted September 28, 2017 Author Posted September 28, 2017 Kenny is killin' me with the grade school questioning in an attempt to stump us. Like he is really discovering all of these things right now. His next thread will be can you name all 50 States? I'm giving this one to bnmjy, just for answering without the insults.
1938 Packard Posted September 28, 2017 Author Posted September 28, 2017 Wow, you really should be nowhere near cleaning supplies I might take that someplace.
André Toulon Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 I'm giving this one to bnmjy, just for answering without the insults. I'm sure he's honored.
scoobdog Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Actually, I didn't until bnmjy explained it here. I was missing the part about oxygen being added from surrounding air. Bnmjy put it all in perspective. So you also don't know what fire is. How precious.
death_by_motorboat Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 That's got something to do with disintegration apparently you must study atomic reactions in decay of atoms to figure that out Sort of like when you set off a firework it produces a much bigger explosion of lights and fire than the original product. Chemically disintegration itself might weigh something
katt_goddess Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Tar and nicotine aren't gasses.....What are you even talking about. He'll find out how much tar weighs when they pull his lungs out at his autopsy and squeeze the black out of them for a before and after weigh-in. His spirit will still be there trying to tell them they're doing the autopsy wrong and everything should be in metric for posterity.
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