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Rick and Morty will continue to premiere on Adult Swim and season 4 will be added to HBO Max sometime after it airs. I'd guess 6-12 months after depending on when season 4 ends. The Adult Swim section on HBO Max will be a curated selection of shows and basically just be where the series will be available instead of Hulu. I can't say for certain (because I have no insider info whatsoever) but I'm expecting at least a good many AS originals will still stream their backlog on the Adult Swim app and website but there may be some shows that will only have all their episodes available at one time on HBO Max. Overall the Adult Swim section of HBO Max just seems like a big fat F U to Hulu but the now Disney controlled Hulu probably would have gotten rid of at least most of the AS originals eventually anyway. HBO Max getting South Park is a much bigger F U to Hulu. It sounds like the Crunchyroll section of HBO Max will by no means replace CR as a service or weaken the value of having a CR subscription. I would be surprised if CR on HBO Max includes any series the CR didn't co-produce or is the master licensor of. The likes of Re:Zero, KonoSuba and Shield Hero are very probable but I don't think they'll be able to include series like My Hero Academia, Dragon Ball Super, Attack on Titan, Boruto or Sword Art Online. They probably will not be allowed to include backlog series from distributors such as RightStuf/Nozomi, Aniplex, Discotek, Toei, Sunrise, Sentai Filmworks, etc. The biggest question is if they will offer any simulcasts at all or if they will only upload series in batches? I'm leaning toward no simulcasts but it could go either way for Crunchyroll's own licenses. If they do not offer any simulcasts much less all the simulcasts for that season then VRV might actually survive, especially if HiDive and some of the other ad-ons want to stay bundled but cannot or do not want to be part of HBO Max. It would probably be better for VRV to close up shop though leaving only a reasonably priced Crunchyroll subscription and perhaps a special bundle to allow access to the full CR service to HBO Max subscribers. DC Universe is more than likely on the chopping block soon unless the comic portion is considered a big enough value. Little to nothing has been said of DC animated series for HBO Max despite Max declaring it will have all the DC films along with a new live-action DC series. Perhaps DC Universe will become even more animation focused while live-action productions move to HBO Max but as a subscriber to DCU I gotta say, I see no reason not to fold that library entirely into HBO Max. I don't want to pay 15 bucks a month for HBO Max and also have to pay 10 a month for VRV or 7 a month for Crunchyroll in addition to 7 a month for DCU. That's 30+ bucks a month on its own. I admittedly don't make use of the comic part of DCU but I'd definitely give that up to cut some costs but still have access to DC's animated series and features. The fact that CN has two series being sent directly to HBO Max is somewhat concerning. I'm also a bit frustrated that TBS didn't air Close Enough and now it will be an HBO Max exclusive and of course genLOCK season 2 is premiering on HBO Max as well. Those things aside, I don't see HBO Max as the death knell for CN much less Adult Swim, at least not for several more years. I could see Rick & Morty season 6 onward premiering on HBO Max if season 4 and 5's TV ratings disappoint but there's really no telling what can happen in the next 3-5 years. I could potentially see the Blade Runner series getting streamed on HBO Max before the Toonami broadcast but it will more likely be the other way around. I'm less concerned that Uzumaki will end up on Max first but both probably will be on Max under the CR or Adult Swim library eventually. Samurai Jack as well as Primal will both be in the Adult Swim library on HBO Max and chances are FLCL 2/3 will be either under Adult Swim or CR on HBO Max as well. For now it seems like HBO Max intends to take already streaming shows away from Hulu, Netflix, Amazon, etc while introducing new content and offering other niche content that doesn't stand much of a chance on TV. It's one half the Netflix killer beside Disney+. The streaming wars certainly look to be interesting so far.
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Chances are Shippuden is benefiting nicely from a full day of DVR playback. Any show airing at 3am gets that benefit because the ratings day is counted from 3am until 2:59am the next day. It's also why the 2:30 slot is generally considered the worst to be in so it's a bit surprising that JoJo manage to beat Black Clover in that position. If they moved Shippuden earlier it wouldn't necessarily do better than it is at 3am. If it and Black Clover swapped me might start seeing Clover beat two shows ahead of it. And it's not as if the network is going to consider less than 30,000 a big difference in viewership, less than 15,000 in 18-49 at that. Moving shows around more often only causes confusion and is likely to lower the ratings of everything that moves around.
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Alicization is more of an isekai then the rest of SAO since the underworld is a different reality. You could make the argument Aincrad was as well because they were trapped in it but when it’s a game they can freely leave it’s not really an isekai. It popularized the genre but largely isn’t a traditional isekai.
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Primal retained about 85% of the Family Guy viewers ages 18-34 making it #3 in that demo for the whole day. It’s lower than 10:30 was getting but that hardly matters when it’s #3 for the entire day. Bob’s Burgers (repeat) (ADSM, 9:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.403 million viewers (#70) • 0.28 HH (#56) • 0.14 A18-49 (#37) • 0.15 A18-34 (#21) • 0.16 A25-54 (#44) Family Guy (repeat) (ADSM, 9:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.525 million viewers (#47) • 0.35 HH (#43) • 0.20 A18-49 (#16) • 0.23 A18-34 (#6) • 0.22 A25-54 (#22) Family Guy (repeat) (ADSM, 10:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.700 million viewers (#25) • 0.46 HH (#24) • 0.28 A18-49 (#3) • 0.34 A18-34 (#2) • 0.29 A25-54 (#9) Genndy Tartakovksy Prima (repeat) (ADSM, 10:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.525 million viewers (#47) • 0.35 HH (#43) • 0.22 A18-49 (#12) • 0.29 A18-34 (#3) • 0.21 A25-54 (#26)
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Jojo Golden Wind premieres October 26th! (Bye bye Boruto?!)
Sketch replied to 3ngag3's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
I'm pretty sure Todd is in the currently being released dub of To the Abandoned Sacred Beasts -
I lol’d This really is odd. They keep Shippuden on but don’t renew Boruto after just a year. I don’t think they chose between DBS reruns and Boruto but this schedule is getting weird.
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who else loves the fact they've scaled back on marathons?
Sketch replied to CountFrylock's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Well I can't say I'm surprised YOU made this topic CountFryLock. It's been nice not having marathons and the amount of premieres Toonami has had this year is nothing short of astounding. I don't mind a marathon every now and then but not having one since December is a welcome change of pace. -
fire force Fire Force Episode 8 Discussion
Sketch replied to OwlChemist81's topic in Episode Discussion Archive
I compared the episode that aired to the simuldub stream. No edits. That said, it seems like the anime is self censoring Tamaki antics and Rekka beating up Tamaki. Rekka is a real sick SOB. I wish Tamaki was the one that gets to kick his ass. -
The week before Thanksgiving.
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Yeah they have been selling Megas XLR on iTunes and the MS store (previously Zune) for years. This is unfortunately nothing new on the Megas front.
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I'm all for that. They really should give C. Martin Croker a day as well. That's the least they could do for him now.
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I keep seeing this narrative that DeMarco didn't know what he was getting into with Food Wars but he talked about liking Food Wars during Toonami Pre-Flight. So I'm pretty sure he knew about the foodgasms and felt the show still had merit. What he wasn't aware of, at the time, was that Food Wars was dubbed. The show might have popped up on Toonami a bit sooner if he and Gill had known it was already dubbed. It's entirely possible it was still a last minute replacement show despite that but I honestly don't think he's having buyers remorse or anything. I also figure that they grabbed Food Wars because it could fill a slot for a while. Fire Force though? I wouldn't doubt that he had not seen more than maybe an episode or two before grabbing it. Probably the same goes for Dr. Stone and Demon Slayer.
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But that's where the statement "it wasn't us" isn't quite specific enough. Because he could be saying the Toonami editors didn't touch Fire Force (because they don't edit for content in general) but he could also be saying Adult Swim S&P didn't edit Fire Force. Because he wasn't specific with "us" it's not certain if he responding to the question from the perspective of "Toonami doesn't edit, it wasn't us" or from the perspective of "Adult Swim S&P didn't edit it, ergo it had to be FUNimation that did it". He could be saying two very different things with that response. So it feels like he's avoiding giving a clear-cut answer but maybe he just thought "it wasn't us" was an adequate reply that assumed people already understood Toonami editors don't edit the shows for content. Which would mean he's saying FUNimation made the edits.
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Given FUNimation's tendency to ignore Toonami's existence with regards to "premieres", Toonami may still get to air episode 131 before this panel, specifically the night before on October 5th. Though I won't rule out the possibility that Toonami will have to delay Super a week. Owl's theory regarding Toonami losing an hour for Pete Smith Day may ring true. I kinda want them to do that. 4 hours of Bob's Burgers leading into a Toonami that starts with Dr. Stone? I'm all for it. Alternatively they could buy time by preempting 11-12AM on September 28th and double up DBS on October 5th. Then the week after they can start Demon Slayer and maybe another new show or a same day dub of My Hero Academia season 4. There's a handful of options that are plausible.
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The curious case of Toonami's dub premieres
Sketch replied to OwlChemist81's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
The lesson that HxH and JoJo may have taught us is being a dub premiere doesn't mean much when the episodes simulcast in Japanese years ago. Boruto is kind of proving that as well but less so than those two did. Food Wars is a curious situation because it's been dubbed for years now but it's doing pretty well for itself despite that. So clearly being a fresh dub isn't everything. Toonami has traded in having more dub premieres for having new dubs that are just weeks behind the Japanese airing and the English simuldub. As people grow more and more accustomed to subbed anime, waiting for dubs will make less and less sense. So unless that show is dubbed pronto, more and more viewers will just watch the simulcasts subbed to stay up to date and take part in the conversation. While dub premieres are great for us dedicated viewers who might have the patience to wait for dubs, they're not that attractive to viewers who could just watch the subs. And the viewers who benefit the most from this change in direction are those who don't have reliable internet connections that would allow them to watch the simuldub streams of shows like Dr. Stone and Fire Force and not have to wait a year or later to finally watch those. Theoretically the combination of fast dub and hype action show should work well for Toonami and hopefully it does in Demon Slayer's case but being a dub premiere didn't convince people to watch The Promised Neverland, Lupin Part 5 and some other shows that were not loaded with action. So being a good fit with the audience matters more than whether or not the dub is available elsewhere because as I mentioned earlier, people will watch the sub. Lots of people won't even wait 1 week for a dub if the sub is available sooner. So the winning combination likely includes some dub premieres that aren't airing long after they ran in Japan and some lightly used dubs of shows that are popular in the current season, if they appeal to the audience. World premieres factor in there somewhere because it gives people the most reason to tune in but the shows have to appeal to the audience enough that they will bother to tune in. If they don't care enough to watch the night they air or they don't care to watch them at all then an exclusive world premiere isn't accomplishing much. Uzumaki is way outside Toonami's regular box but who knows, maybe it can attract new viewers. Good luck keeping those viewers if it's literally the only thing in the same tone on the block though. -
Is PRIMAL a trial run at a weeknight "Midnight Run?"
Sketch replied to OwlChemist81's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Oh it's actually 11 minute episodes? Interesting. They will probably rate them individually just as most AS originals filling two slots in a half hour tend to be. -
Is PRIMAL a trial run at a weeknight "Midnight Run?"
Sketch replied to OwlChemist81's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
It's not that uncommon for Adult Swim to premiere a mini series on a weeknight strip. They did it for The Heart, She Holler and Neon Joe: Were-Wolf Hunter. Primal is probably written as a 5 piece story that Genndy wanted to it to play out over a week. -
A Boruto episode... seriously? And Dr. Stone definitely did not need a TV-MA. Some episodes of Food Wars (uncensored) should have a TV-MA rating but not every single episode much less episodes that are edited for content. I guess I’d rather have MA rated episodes than censored ones so if MA is what it takes to air Food Wars without more edits, then so be it.
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Some services let you record a show along with an hour before that show and up to two hours after it. Cloud DVRs for PS Vue, Hulu, etc don’t let you do that.