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fire force Fire Force Episode 3: Discussion
Sketch replied to AnimationFan14's topic in Episode Discussion Archive
S&P is handling Food Wars but it is possible that FUNimation edited that episode of Fire Force without Toonami’s knowledge or request. Surely we haven’t forgotten that one time they played an MHA episode that had All Might’s dialogue censored and different than what streamed? Sometimes FUNimation gets overzealous with editing stuff for TV despite Toonami being on Adult Swim now. And other times they just flat send the wrong version of an episode. It is also possible that S&P did the edits as they did with Food Wars and Jason just means the Toonami team did not do the edits. But due to his uninformative answer, we may never know. If the censorship doesn’t persist then it was more likely FUNimation and Adult Swim informed them that such edits aren’t necessary. If it continues to be edited then it either is AS S&P or they requested FUNimation to continue editing Tamaki’s compromising moments. -
A rock solid pickup. Hopefully it does well.
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Despite airing off and on since October 2016. I get the impression that a lot of people were not even aware that JoJo has been on Adult Swim on Saturday nights. Even a brief pop-up on Netflix seems to catch more attention than a lineup promo from Toonami. Though I’m not honestly convinced that each episode of JoJo was watched by even a million unique subscribers on Netflix. If it could manage even 600,000 then it’s doing comparable numbers to Stardust’s better days on Toonami but below the 800,000-1 Million Part 1 was able to get in late 2016. Yes I do believe a show can trend on Netflix without getting even a million subscribers to check it out. I figure most anime on Netflix are lucky to get 300,000 per episode while a select few can get close to double that and most get less than 200,000. That looks pretty good compared to Toonami now but given the amount of subscribers Netflix has it’s a rather small percentage of their total audience. I’m partially basing that theory on how many views popular shows get on certain pirate sites but I’d like to believe the pirate numbers have decreased a bit due to the ease of watching anime legally now. Call me crazy but I’d figure those FLCL sequels did comparable numbers to some of the more lauded Netflix exclusive anime. Maybe not Aggretsuko, Seven Deadly Sins or Devil Man Cry Baby though. Those three definitely caught on with the wider audience. People still don’t know Toonami is on and has been back for over seven years. They should really advertise on YouTube a lot more than they have and advertise on other networks. CR’s free player is loaded with redundant ads, Toonami should advertise on CR for sure. After all, CR advertises during Toonami.
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I tend to consider the shift toward long-runners to be caused by several factors. 1) Viz wanted HxH, JoJo and eventually Boruto on TV. Before those came along, Toonami already had DBZ, Naruto, One Piece and had finished Bleach. Fairy Tail was pretty much the only 200+ episode fighting shounen they had ignored. And it basically still is because only part of Gintama and others got dubbed. 2) Constantly picking new shows was becoming problematic so they felt more long series and series with multiple iterations could lighten that load. They likely felt they could never maintain more than 6 premieres at a time unless they got more long runners. 3) DBZ Kai was only ever matched by One-Punch Man so they thought shows cut from the same cloth as DBZ and Naruto would definitely do well and better than the 4) They just plain like DBS, HxH, JoJo, Gundam, Lupin, Attack on Titan and My Hero Academia among others. 5) DBZ Kai was so popular that not airing Super or even the Buu saga of Kai wasn’t even questioned and Toei wanted them on TV. So they didn’t see any issue with airing Buu Kai and Super at the same time. And possibly one of the biggest factors aside from what the distributors wanted was simply this: 6) No matter how many long series and sequel series Toonami was airing, fans kept asking for more of the same. They let that guide their choices more than they probably should have. Because of that, some people genuinely believe Toonami is only for shounen fans now and that it turned its back on seinin fans in 2016. Those folks argue that if Toonami had ignored the demand for every long runner and stuck to a schedule like it had in 2014 and 2015, that Toonami would be doing significantly better now. They feel the decision to keep a largely consistent schedule full of JUMP shounen headlined by DBS, pushed loyal viewers away out of boredom and frustration. They might be at least partially right. Though I don’t think a schedule like the one they had in 2015 would have done better (or worse) than what we had from 2016 till today. Maybe a little if only by the nature of diminishing returns from sequels and continuations. Even DBS has sank considerably from where it started in early 2017 so of course JoJo and HxH would as well. Alas, we will never know for sure.
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fire force Fire Force Episode 3: Discussion
Sketch replied to AnimationFan14's topic in Episode Discussion Archive
The time slot does not matter between 10pm and 5am and especially not between midnight and 1am. -
fire force Fire Force Episode 3: Discussion
Sketch replied to AnimationFan14's topic in Episode Discussion Archive
Makes me question if they could air InuYasha episodes still without censoring Miroku. -
While 1.8 million is astounding for any show even back in 2015, we all know AgK could not have pulled that off if DBZ Kai didn’t break 2 million that night. It held DBZ pretty well throughout its run, that’s about all anyone could ask. One-Punch Man remains the only anime to one-up it’s DBZ lead and it definitely didn’t manage that for fan service. That said, Food Wars is showing nice gains and stable performance despite being a slightly old dub that is streaming on Hulu. That is definitely showing the potential for fan service heavy shows right now. We’ll see if Fire Force manages the same.
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Well, at least it’s not ahead of the Toonami airing. But ya know we have all this talk of streaming killing shows for Toonami, yet Food Wars which is all on Hulu is doing pretty well for itself. It’s a bit curious.
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It also had those but it definitely had manservice.
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Actively avoiding manservice? The man brought in JoJo. 🤨 There’s manservice in Food Wars tonight as well.
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I linked to a tweet where FUNi announced that their upload of the dub would resume on Friday. I hear Fire Force was originally intended for Spring so the production of the anime and the dub have episodes in the can already. Same day simuldubs wouldn’t really be possible if FUNi didn’t have a buffer of completed episodes.
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Fire Force resumes in this week.
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Nothing has been said about when episode 3 will air. No need to jump to conclusions yet.
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Fire fighters who use fire to fight fire. What they actually fight are human beings who have spontaneously combusted and become demons called "the infernal". The second episode makes a point of showing how gut-wrenching their work really is. It's a horrifying concept if you take some time to think about it. Regardless of it being about the people putting out the fires and extinguishing the evil whenever possible, the subject matter and the frequent sight of people burning alive is going to be hard to swallow for some people after the arson attack on Kyoto Animation studio one and the massive amount injuries and deaths that occurred there.
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If I had to guess, Fire Force will take no more than two weeks off in Japan. That could bode well for Toonami if they are allowed to keep airing it uninterrupted. Any more than two weeks hiatus and Fire Force would probably have to get pulled from Japanese broadcast until October or as late as some time in 2020. It's not so easy to reschedule shows on Japanese television. They'll probably air episode 3 in Japan next week but there's really no telling for sure. Honestly, announcing this show for Toonami while people are still reeling from what happened to Kyoto Animation's studio one isn't something I would have done. I would have waited another week and just kept doubled up Titan for two weeks or start gen:LOCK a week earlier. This is incredibly bad timing. Could you imagine if they had announced Fire Force a day earlier, or worse were airing it this Saturday? Hell, they probably would have delayed airing it until July 27th or August 3rd even if they had announced it for July 20th last week. As it stands I would not blame them for delaying it until August despite just announcing it for July 27th but I expect it will air on July 27th and we'll have to see what happens after that.
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I strongly suspect it was either Dr. Stone or Mob Psycho 100 season 2... maybe both.
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A continuation for Bleach or maybe Hunter x Hunter.
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They only do them live at conventions lately. They usually record it on Tuesday or Wednesday and play it Friday. They stopped doing regular episodes live a long time ago. I get the feeling the schedule wasn’t decided until Wednesday or even Thursday morning. As for the podcast, Jason was talking about the upcoming Adult Swim Festival lineup saying they would announce it next week. So that must have been recorded more than a week ago because the Festival lineup was announced last week.
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Both of those were recorded before this schedule was decided.
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It’s getting hard to doubt it. MHA season 4 will probably air but it’s looking like it won’t get to until maybe Fall of 2020. Given season 3 started airing on Toonami this year but it finished in Japan last Fall. Any chance of MHA season 4 airing on Toonami in time to replace DBS in October are pretty slim. So no need to keep it toward the front aside from trying not to piss off the fans and keeping a spot warm for something else. If it’s at 3:30 it can be shoved out of the spotlight and quietly phased out, taking the 3:30 slot with it when it ends in 8 weeks.
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This is legitimately surprising. I recall they showed interest during a Pre-Flight (where they did not realize it was dubbed yet) but having it on seemed like a pipe dream. They tend to avoid fanservice shows and haven’t picked up a series from Sentai since Parasyte. I was hoping Made in Abyss would be the show to put Sentai back on the menu but I’m all for Food Wars spicing up the lineup. I can keep going with these food puns all day, I assure you. I guess they found another shounen that will last over a year. That’s probably the main reason they got it. But it’s a bold move to be sure. They are taking a risk on a 50+ episode show that’s way outside their wheel house. I hope it does well but if it flops then it’s decent fodder for 3am. I am happy to see they can still surprise me with their show pickups.
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No, no it doesn’t. i cannot fathom why this isn’t the schedule 11:00 - Dragon Ball Super 11:30 - My Hero Academia 12:00 - Attack on Titan 12:30 - SAO Alicization 1:00 - Food Wars 1:30 - Black Clover 2:00 - Lupin Part 5 2:30 - Boruto 3:00 - Shippuden 3:30 - Gundam: The Origin Or even have Lupin at 3am after its mediocre performance.