You got to be specific, dude. I can't hear the tone of your voice or see your face. Your first post had what seemed like a sarcastic tone that appeared to indicate there are deeper issues than puritanism, (without pointing them out) and I came back saying that puritanism is the foundation of our entire country and culture; there are no deeper roots and all other issues we have stem from that at least in part? How was that missing your point? It didn't. Nobody has apologized for anything, thread does not contain one apology... Seems like you're making stuff up at this point. Puritanism is characterized chiefly by basically repressing all emotion, and a nation that represses it's emotions are easy to manipulate emotionally. That's my point here, and you're trying to make it about something else without elaborating as to what that something else even is. If you want to make up excuses to gaslight someone, at least manufacture a tangible referent for it.