Jman

"Majority of Americans." Yeah, because they don't watch what you watch. Most TV is only watched by a portion of the population anyway.

Everyone thinks it's the 4Kids dub anyway. Might as well go all the way.

I've gone off at length at how I despise the "everyone has taste cancer but me!" mentality. It reeks of elitism. As for the topic, other than Rick and Morty and the occasional Robot Chicken, what is there?

Has it ever occurred to you that everyone else is right and you're wrong? Just saying.

Zeni, in an On Demand world, anyone who wants anime on weeknights can watch it rather easily.

At the end of the day we both want representation. Having a non-gangbanger Latino hero is one of those desires. I see no reason to insist on these caveats with characters that exist and have clearly identified desires. Not to mention at this point Marco is practically a harem anime protagonist, and that's about as rare as a unicorn with a racing stripe.

That's true, but the problem IMO is that's there no other alternative. That you can't write Latinos without doing these things to them. That's where the issue lies for me.

Guess that one was obscure enough to sip past, unlike Santana.

I can barely name three Latino heroes, period! One fans want to be gay even though he's only attracted to women, and one fans want to be trans even though he's shown no issues with his masculinity, just trying to live up to it. And one fans just hate on because he isn't Peter Parker.

I'm for anything that gets away from the BLAMBLAMWHEEWHEE of those godawful movies and towards more cerebral horror, even if a lot of the story beats are from The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

It's the problem when that's the ONLY type of Latino you get. Gangbanger, peasant, or a hero BUT he has to be gay. Or a hero BUT he has to be trans. It's bullshit.

No, it's more that Latinos can't be heroes without having extra baggage bolted onto them.

It does serve a bit, especially when there are so few of them, to de-legitimize them as heroes. Latinos are usually peasants doing lawns or criminals. There are very few traditionally heroic Latinos in that classic "Be one of the leads and get the girl" type. That's why Trans Marco is in a word, fucking infuriating. "Oh, he doesn't really want to be masculine, he just thinks he does!" Or maybe you just do because you want to ruin the character, so fuck off. It's obnoxious. You want to have a character be that hero, but no, he's gotta be a criminal, he's gotta have a boyfriend, he's gotta be trans, etc. Why? Why the fuck can't he be a hero?

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-02-09/crunchyroll-announces-its-own-convention-after-surpassing-1-million-paid-subscribers/.111974 The future of media is streaming and for now, it seems anime and animation in general are surprisingly healthy growth sectors for it.

No, I just hated that theory from Day 1, but part of that tends to be how protective I can be of the what...three non-stereotypical Latinos in animation (Marco, Lance, and the half Dominican Miles Morales. That's it.) Also I have NEVER heard Trans Marco ever being an actual possiblity. I know the creator of the show modeled the dialog between Star and Marco on her own husband and she confirmed that in an interview, but Jack Kirby did the same thing with Big Barda and Mr. Miracle in the New Gods comics. There is NO evidence of Trans Marco being anything but an insane and kinda insulting rumor.

Trans Marco is dead?

Exact same concept came out a few years ago in Crystal seasons. Hulu scores them regularly in the top programming, even outdoing heavy hitters like WWE. There is a very, VERY bizarre charm to the series and the characters to the point where there are actually thinkpieces on the subject. (JMan defending Sailor Moon. Crazy I know).

Well Thrawn is in Rebels and therefore re-introduced to the canon, so who knows what's gonna happen with him.

And got remade.

Diane is the fucking poster girl for that now. Back on topic: Toriyama took a certain glee in making Japanese Superman Japanese Asexual Homer Simpson. Luffy mighty as well be a jellyfish, but he isn't selfish. It's almost a shame he is a jellyfish because some of the scenes of him trying to cheer up Nami and offer her food when she was sick were adorable.

That and not cockblock his buddy. He's the macrophile. Don't look that up.

Diane? He just seems more hung up on his old love so he has the nice little cross section where he doesn't want a serious relationship, yet respects her too much to grope her (he actually says it out loud that he doesn't grope her because he has way too much respect for her).

This is why Meliodas > Goku and Luffy. Wrong magazine I know.

That's because Goku has a one track mind. The thing about Superman and why he's so timeless is that he's reinterpreted differently in all his appearances depending on the writer. The Golden Age version was an enforcer who doled out justice to those the system couldn't help. Silver Age writers alternated between him being an angel of mercy and a sociopathic dick to his friends when they schemed to find out his identity/try to marry him. Optimistic writers portray him as everything from a pacifist to a system rattler for justice. Cynical writers seem his as a tool of the powers that be, while the most cynical writer on Earth, Garth Ennis, views him as a symbol of all that's right about America and immigration, essentially casting aside old grudges and helping the people of his new land. Goku? None of that. Eat, sleep, fight, repeat. Maybe conquer the streak somewhere in there. Luffy, for all his many faults, seems to have people around him to direct him. Goku doesn't nor does he want to interrupt his schedule. At least that's Super's version. GT made him childish but he was ultimately heroic and responsible. It's reminiscent of Homer Simpson's decay.

Goku in Super is less Japanese Superman and more Japanese Homer Simpson from what I've seen. Still better than Luffy.