OwlChemist81

You are cordially invited to attend the union of Arsene Lupin III - and - Rebecca Rosselini In holy, blissful matrimony. 2 AM Saturday, June the seventeenth, two-thousand and seventeen Reception (a.k.a. Naruto Shippuden, GITS, and whatever bullshit [adult swim] airs after that) to follow. Only Toonami!

Damn... Well at least I got the AOT thread! Plus, my post count is a Rush album!!

The battle rages on, 12:30 AM tomorrow night (6/17/17). Only Toonami!!

He's been away for too long... Catch the triumphant-ish return of Lupin the 3rd tomorrow night at 2 AM and hope him steal a better timeslot! [maybe...]

As much crap as I give Tokyo Ghoul, I don't really "hate" it, just find it "uninteresting" after AOT blows me away!

We missed this nice little nod that the Toonami Tumblr posted right at 3:30 AM: Also, I realize that I have broken my Thursday rule this week, so from now on I won't be posting until maybe 3 PM on Friday. LATER!

I think there is actually a decent chance that the marathon reruns of AOT episodes #26, #27, and #28 might surpass their premiere ratings at 12:30 AM! I mean, look at how LOW the bar is: Total Viewers Adults 18-49 #26 826,000 523,000 #27 808,000 481,000 #28 771,000 447,000

I dunno, there might be some merit in it, especially since the new DVD/BD release has recently come out. I mean yeah, it's a terrible idea and everything, but it WAS on Toonami over 2 years ago. Samurai Jack was on Toonami--well it hasn't missed a week at 11 PM since April 1st. Thank goodness that changes on July 1st with the AOT S2 marathon! While we're on the subject of IGPX, I believe its deal might have been a bit more complicated than we think. It's the only Co-Production that has not yet appeared on the Weekly Marathon Stream (hell, even Big O Season 1 showed up accidentally on a Monday afternoon!). So I'd say its chances of popping up anywhere on the block again are slim to none.

It appears that the stream has advanced, but it's unknown to which episodes. I'm assuming 104-108, but I suppose maybe actually to some that are quite a bit later!

Quite true. Occasionally I'll even get "stuck" out almost that late!

Thinking about catching the dub later tonight!

That is quite sad.

You could argue that a few other shows have kinda gotten "GXP"'ed: ThunderCats, in the middle of its ill-fated 2nd run on Toonami (which would end at Episode 15 due to Toonami losing the rights), fell from 1:30 all the way to 3:30 when One Piece premiered, but of course it was a rerun. OG Naruto started over at 2:30 AM on 1/4/14, abandoning 12:30 after the first Month of Movies One Piece was premiering new episodes at 1 AM right behind Shippuden on 1/31/15, and it fell to 2:30 on 2/7/15 when the block got cut short. Naruto Shippuden fell from midnight on 1/31/15 all the way to 2 AM only 3 months later on 3/28/15. Parasyte, when it had finished its first run, fell from 1 AM on 4/9/16 to 3 AM on 4/16/16. (Hunter x Hunter took its place) And most recently, Gundam Unicorn was at 1 AM on 3/18/15, then dropped to 2 AM on 3/25/15 when Tokyo Ghoul premiered. (This also continued an "easing down" from a Midnight series premiere for Gundam IBO Season 1, which finished its run at 1 AM). Hopefully something similar is about to happen to Samurai Jack and Tokyo Ghoul since they're currently not pulling their weight in their current timeslots. And just for the record, the following shows are in the exclusive club which have "reverse GXP-ed:" Thundercats - 2:30 AM to 1 AM Hellsing Ultimate - 3 AM to Midnight InuYasha: The Final Act - 2 AM to 12:30 Samurai Jack - Old episodes ended on 1/17/15 at 5:30 AM, but the 5th season premiered at 11 PM on 3/11/17! Will AOT join their ranks, bouncing from 12:30 all the way to 11 PM for its final 3 episodes? Only time will tell!

Oh, I believe you are correct, but not until after another show has its shot at 11 PM. Of course I'm talking about Attack on Titan Season 2 on July 1st! Then wouldn't be wonderful if it could really finish its run there instead of 12:30 AM?

THANK YOU, whoever posted this! No wait, that doesn't quite help me enough. We need to look at the bigger picture... TOTAL VIEWERS RETENTION 8:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 750,000 10:30 PM Family Guy 1,240,000 11:00 PM Samurai Jack S5 #2 884,000 (71.29%) 11:30 PM Dragon Ball Super 856,000 (96.83%) 12:00 AM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 893,000 (104.32%) 12:30 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 717,000 (80.29%) 1:00 AM Tokyo Ghoul 583,000 (81.31%) 1:30 AM Hunter × Hunter 574,000 (98.46%) 2:00 AM Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 530,000 (92.33%) 2:30 AM Naruto: Shippuden 513,000 (96.79%) 3:00 AM Ghost In The Shell HD 469,000 (91.42%) TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE - 668,778 If you think that drop from FG to SJ was hellish, you ain't seen nothing yet!! ADULTS 18-49 RETENTION 8:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 317,000 10:30 PM Family Guy 724,000 11:00 PM Samurai Jack S5 #2 497,000 (68.65%) 11:30 PM Dragon Ball Super 510,000 (102.62%) 12:00 AM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 537,000 (105.29%) 12:30 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 465,000 (86.59%) 1:00 AM Tokyo Ghoul 377,000 (81.08%) 1:30 AM Hunter × Hunter 389,000 (103.18%) 2:00 AM Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 372,000 (95.63%) 2:30 AM Naruto: Shippuden 341,000 (91.67%) 3:00 AM Ghost In The Shell HD 331,000 (97.07%) TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE - 424,333 Samurai Jack reruns, under 70%!? I give you a "D". The A+'s were DBS, DBZK, and HxH. GITS was #4, and Gundam closed out its run rounding out the Top 5. CURRENT SHOW AVERAGES Total Viewers Dragon Ball Super (8 PM) - 871,952 (21 episodes) Dragon Ball Super (11:30 PM) - 1,120,250 (21 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: Final Chapters - 1,016,545 (22 episodes) Attack On Titan Season 2 - 794,571 (7 episodes) Tokyo Ghoul - 703,200 (10 episodes) Hunter × Hunter - 813,094 (54 episodes) Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn - 653,636 (22 episodes) Naruto: Shippuden - 851,716 (160 episodes) Ghost In The Shell HD - 503,222 (18 episodes) Adults 18-49 Dragon Ball Super (8 PM, Estimate) - 421,571 (21 episodes) Dragon Ball Super (11:30 PM) - 679,250 (21 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: Final Chapters - 614,818 (22 episodes) Attack On Titan Season 2 - 481,286 (7 episodes) Tokyo Ghoul - 437,900 (10 episodes) Hunter × Hunter - 484,642 (54 episodes) Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn - 400,091 (22 episodes) Naruto: Shippuden - 472,893 (143 episodes) Ghost In The Shell HD - 314,556 (18 episodes) Adults 18-34 (Estimated) Dragon Ball Super (8 PM) - 269,750 (20 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: Final Chapters - 414,500 (22 episodes) Attack On Titan Season 2 - 309,571 (7 episodes) Tokyo Ghoul - 288,900 (10 episodes) Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn - 271,727 (22 episodes) Thanks for the memories, Gundam Unicorn! (Not to mention DVR recordings...) You managed to finish above 400K 18-49 after all!!

Whoever thought the fucking Cleveland Show would work after 8 PM Dragon Ball Super should be ashamed at him/herself! I could have told ya that shit wouldn't fly!

What the hell would you have them do, premiere a new episode at 3:30 AM!? Granted, the ratings have been about as bad as some shows got during the "Glorious Era" of 2015-2016 right after Toonami but that's still ridiculous! Dubbing crews probably LOVE stuff like this! They're overworked as it is for goodness sake! Plus this will give us a chance to see what AOT can do at 11 for once!

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. They actually mentioned they were on the air on an episode of Pre-Flight which streamed, but I guess that was only a trial size for the spring.

Often overlooked is the fact that Toonami Pre-Flight gets aired on TV now on Fridays at 4 AM (During what was formerly DVR Theater), BUT since this IS a Toonami thread, I think it bears mention, especially because something really bizarre happened this week: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-friday-cable-originals-network-finals-6-9-2017.html#comment-174699 The two halves averaged a 0.33 in Adults 18-49. That beats Tokyo Ghoul and Gundam Unicorn's 0.29 this week. They also averaged a 0.385, which edges Gundam's 0.38 and beats Ghoul's 0.36 as well. Let that sink in. Perhaps an acceptable substitute for Jack at 11 PM would actually be "Toonami: Pre-Flight"!? If repackaged would people actually watch a full 22-minute news program right before Toonami kicked off in earnest at 11:30? If nothing else, it could be a decent follow-up to Dragon Ball Super at 8 PM. Also, we have an update, and I am pleased to report that Between Ghoul and Gundam, Hunter x Hunter beat both in Adults 18-49, and everything was up on Toonami after midnight: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-6-10-2017.html "The Adult Swim late-night line-up performed as follows: DRAGON BALL Z up 0.02 to 0.42, ATTACK ON TITAN up 0.05 to 0.36, TOKYO GHOUL up 0.01 to 0.29, MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM up 0.06 to 0.29, HUNTER X HUNTER up 0.05 to 0.30/574K, NARUTO up 0.03 to 0.27/513K, and GHOST IN THE SHELL up 0.06 to 0.26/469K." Why is that show not on earlier!? 12-3:30 AM TOTAL VIEWER RETENTION: 12:00 AM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 893,000 12:30 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 717,000 (80.29%) 1:00 AM Tokyo Ghoul 583,000 (81.31%) 1:30 AM Hunter × Hunter 574,000 (98.46%) 2:00 AM Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn 530,000 (92.33%) 2:30 AM Naruto: Shippuden 513,000 (96.79%) 3:00 AM Ghost In The Shell HD 469,000 (91.42%)

That may be, but I'm sure it still can't happen until at least it premieres on Toonami first in the case of the dub premieres. If you're talking about AOT, obviously VRV gets it at the same time FUNimation does on Sunday nights. If VRV is able to beat that somehow with Dragon Ball Super, Hunter x Hunter, and now Lupin The 3rd, color me surprised!

The success or failure of Dragon Ball Super at 8 PM can usually be attributed to its CN movie lead-in. This past week, it was a fairly stupid choice: https://cnschedulearchive.tumblr.com/ Yes, that's right. An old Ben 10 movie from 2007! And we've got another one coming up next week as Super's lead-in so I don't see it getting much better.

We interrupt this inane discussion about theme parks to give you a look at the reason this thread was created: the RATINGS! http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-6-10-2017.html 6/10/2017 Dragon Ball Super (8 PM) - #21 (-11) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.28 Estimated 18-34 - 190,000 ( 25.33% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.25 Estimated 18-49 - 321,000 ( 42.80% ) Total Viewers - 750,000 6/10/2017 DBZ Kai: Final Chapters - #4 (+2) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.54 Estimated 18-34 - 367,000 ( 41.10% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.42 Estimated 18-49 - 538,000 ( 60.25% ) Total Viewers - 893,000 6/10/2017 Attack On Titan - #6 (+5) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.47 Estimated 18-34 - 319,000 ( 44.49% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.36 Estimated 18-49 - 462,000 ( 64.44% ) Total Viewers - 717,000 6/10/2017 Tokyo Ghoul - #9 (+11) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.36 Estimated 18-34 - 245,000 ( 42.02% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.29 Estimated 18-49 - 372,000 ( 63.81% ) Total Viewers - 583,000 6/10/2017 Gundam Unicorn - #11 (+26) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.38 Estimated 18-34 - 258,000 ( 48.68% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.29 Estimated 18-49 - 372,000 ( 70.19% ) Total Viewers - 530,000 THE GOOD: EVERYTHING IMPROVED. 'NUFF SAID. As long as we keep going like this, we should be OK. Also, a pretty respectable finish for Gundam Unicorn given the ridiculously huge amount of handicaps that were thrown its way in the 2nd half: it managed to finish just over 650K total viewers and, for all intents and purposes, exactly 400K adults 18-49 on average. Had it not been buried at 2 AM, given the worst lead-in ever in Tokyo Ghoul, AND kneecapped even worse right at the end of its run with the Reruns Power Hour kicking off Toonami, it might have gotten over 700K and 450K respectively, but we'll never know. THE BAD: The whole post-midnight portion of the block got its ass kicked by SPONGEBOB. And whatever that "LIVE PD" show on A&E is, I believe it will just continue to grow to be a thorn in Toonami's side as it steals viewers from the 11 PM hour, not to mention Family Guy before. Ugh. America's obsession with law enforcement sickens me. I prefer there to be some comedy thrown in, like with World's Dumbest Criminals on Tru TV. THE UGLY: Dragon Ball Super, what the hell? Considering it wasn't actually Frieza himself but a bunch of his underlings fighting, I guess I'll give it a pass. But the night that replays what was covered in that Toonami Sneak Peek of Resurrection of F that popped a random episode of DBZ Kai over 2M is coming soon, and if things don't change, it's going to be UGLY! Also, Tokyo Ghoul got beat in 18-34 and Men 12-34 by the finale of Gundam Unicorn, which proves that it really doesn't have any business at 1 AM. Only time will tell if HxH actually went up, down, or tied the relative tie that was between Gundam and Ghoul in 18-49, and of course HERE COMES LUPIN next week to REALLY make Ghoul look inferior!

Yes, as a matter of fact, I have. Almost every week Toonami has been lower than last year's Toonami than [as] as a whole for the week has been lower than last year's [as] week as a whole, and that's not a good thing.

Any predictions on what the ratings might be tomorrow? Here's my stab: Samurai Jack - 1050K DB Super - 975K DBZ Kai - 1025K AOT S2 - 875K Tokyo Ghoul - 750K Hunter x Hunter - 675K Gundam Unicorn - 600K Shippuden - 525K GITS - 450K I believe that since there was no significant competition from NHL or UFC, we'll see a pretty good increase for each timeslot, and Gundam Unicorn might even crack 600K for its final episode!

I never had a problem with any of them personally. Just repeatin what happened to be a common complaint!