OwlChemist81

THIS JUST IN!!! Dragon Ball Super beat its Family Guy lead-in in total viewers and in ALL target demographics! http://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-espn-wins-prime-time-with-first-night-of-nba-playoffs/ Family Guy (ADSM, 10:00 PM, 30 min.) – 1.018 million viewers (#32) – 0.64 HH (#33) – 0.43 A18-49 (#11) – 0.53 A18-34 (#5) – 0.37 A25-54 (#18) Dragon Ball Super (ADSM, 10:30 PM, 30 min.) – 1.020 million viewers (#31) – 0.61 HH (#35) – 0.47 A18-49 (#6) – 0.59 A18-34 (#4) – 0.40 A25-54 (#13) (Yes, Family Guy still won households, but that's not technically a "demographic.") Of course the 3 NBA games took #1-#3 for the primetime portion of the night in 18-34, but DBS took #4. Boo-yah! And if you're wondering about 18-49, the NBA games were once again #1 through #3, Live PD was #4, and the #5 show is an unlisted rerun. Ah, what could have been... Anyway, I think an ideal ratings pattern for Toonami would be if the 11:30 show (this year, FLCL Prog/Alt) wins the night, and the previous 2 shows build up to it. FLCL Prog/Alt definitely have that "World Premiere" thing that worked out so well for Samurai Jack, but what could be a potential replacement in that pesky 11 PM slot, which is currently occupied by the underperforming DBZ KFC? I say it's either gotta be AoTS3 or Boruto. Bo might just build from Super; we saw it a few times with Bleach and OG Naruto at midnight and 12:30 back in 2013. Alternatively, AoTS2 had to lead-in to the ho-hum Tokyo Ghoul, but let it S3 lead-in to World Premiere FLCL, and it's probably gonna do better! So, I think we'll see one of the following beyond DBZ KFC (and please note that marathons are an unpredictable X-Factor in both...): Scenario #1 10:30-12:30: 6/30: DBS; Boruto; FLCLP#5; JoJo; etc. OR Marathon 7/7: DBS; Boruto; FLCLP#5/6; JoJo; etc. OR Marathon (if not on 6/30) 7/14: DBS; Boruto; FLCLP#6 or AoTS3; JoJo; etc. 7/21: DBS; Boruto; AoTS3; JoJo; etc. 8/25: DBS; Boruto; AoTS3; Special TBD; etc. 9/1: Marathon 9/8: DBS; Boruto; AoTS3; FLCLA#1; etc. Scenario #2 10:30-12 AM: 6/30: DBS; Special TBD; FLCLP#5; etc. OR Marathon 7/7: DBS; AoTS3; FLCLP#5/6; JoJo; etc. OR Marathon (if not on 6/30) 7/14: DBS; AoTS3; FLCLP#6 or other show TBD (Boruto?) Either way, for AoTS3 to premiere in July, looks like we're gonna need another special. It's also possible that FLCLP is simply reran in the 11:30 timeslot before FLCLA takes over, but I'll bet their ratings for classic FLCL are making them think twice about that! Also, please note that NONE of this covers the REAL elephant in the room: what goes into that 12:30 timeslot on 5/5, assuming no more schedule shakeups?

I believe Bible Black might actually air on Toonami hilariously censored on April Fool's Day 2023. Coming April 1, 2023: Hilariously Censored Hentai night on Toonami--well until Midnight when it flips over to April 2, anyway. Seriously though, could you imagine that shit actually airing with ridiculously cut runtimes (like 10-12 minutes an episode, if that), before Midnight when Toonami goes back to normal? Could maybe play sexy music in the background or something.

http://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-espn-wins-prime-time-with-first-night-of-nba-playoffs/ PROGRAM Viewers (000) A1849 rating A1849 (000) 10:30 Dragon Ball Super 1020 0.47 602 11:00 Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 793 0.34 439 11:30 Fooly Cooly (r) 607 0.27 348 12:00a Jojo’s Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders 489 0.23 301 12:30a Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans 410 0.20 257 1:00a Black Clover 361 0.18 226 1:30a Hunter X Hunter (r) 347 0.18 226 2:00a Naruto: Shippuden (r) 334 0.17 220 2:30a Space Dandy (r) 352 0.17 220 3:00a Cowboy Bebop (r) 341 0.16 206 3:30a Ghost In Shell: 2nd Gig (r) 326 0.16 204 The 18-49 average was 295K, again, 13th out of 15 for 2018. Below average, but at least NOT the worst. 4/14/18 - Adults 18-49 Show Total Viewers Adults 18-49 DBS 602,000 DBZKFC 439,000 72.92% FLCL 348,000 79.27% JoJo 301,000 86.49% Gundam 257,000 85.38% BClover 226,000 87.94% HxH 226,000 100.00% Shippuden 220,000 97.35% Dandy 220,000 100.00% Bebop 206,000 93.64% GITS 204,000 99.03% Not much change from the hundredths version posted earlier. Only main difference is Gundam didn't retain as well as JoJo, and Black Clover didn't quite retain 90%. Turn the page...

Gundam's not doing gangbusters but it's worthy of being mid-block! However, I think in 1.5 weeks it's going bye-bye for a while!

Actually, not really. Only in total viewers. In Adults 18-49, it was only #13 out of 15 weeks so far this year, and both 1/27 and 2/17 were worse. So I guess that means for target demos, the lows are getting lower, and the highs are getting higher? That is good.

FUNIMATION usually DOES stream only 1 episode of their simuldubs at once. They did that with Star Blazers 2199, believe it or not...

Knowing Wit studio, it probably will be 2-cour. I would be SHOCKED if it were suddenly reduced to only one!

Cheezus Christ indeed! Going back a week, Super continues to do well in Live +3: http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/dvr-ratings/jersey-shore-family-vacation-scores-well-in-cable-live-3-ratings-for-april-2-8/ Since it actually got a 0.48 in 18-49 Live+Same Day, and was boosted once again to a 0.7, that means that it gained anywhere between 0.17 and 0.26 for a total of 0.65-0.74, and once again, that's a total of up to 953K adults 18-49 who watched DBS between 9:30 PM Sunday and 3 AM Wednesday! It also appears that it's only made this Top 25 this year, and this is only the 3rd time it's happened, but the 2nd in a row... http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/?s=Live%2B3+Cable

Since it got left behind on the previous page, I think it was appropriate. On THAT note...

SBD Updated: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-4-14-2018.html "Adult Swim’s late-night line-up performed as follows: DRAGON BALL at 0.47/0.34 compared to last week’s 0.48/0.40, FOOLY COOLY at 0.27/607K, JOJO’S BIZARRE ADVENTURE down 0.03 to 0.23, MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM down 0.06 to 0.20, BLACK CLOVER down 0.04 to 0.18, HUNTER X HUNTER down 0.04 to 0.18/347K, NARUTO down 0.04 to 0.17/334K, SPACE DANDY down 0.01 to 0.17/352K, COWBOY BEBOP down 0.03 to 0.16/341K, and GHOST IN THE SHELL down 0.03 to 0.16/326K." The rest of the night couldn't get out of the 300Ks, but at least it didn't get any worse than that. However, the average was a mere 489K, 15th so far for 2018, i.e.: DEAD LAST. And here are the retention figures for total viewers... 4/14/18 - Total Viewers Show Viewers Retention DBS 1,020,000 N/A DBZKFC 793,000 77.7% FLCL 607,000 76.5% JoJo 489,000 80.6% Gundam 410,000 83.8% BClover 361,000 88.0% HxH 347,000 96.1% Shippuden 334,000 96.3% Dandy 352,000 105.4% Bebop 341,000 96.9% GITS 326,000 95.6% Dandy actually ended up retaining far better than any other show! And it turns out FLCL retained slightly worse than DBZKFC, though JoJo retained slightly better. We'll see how well everything retained in 18-49 a little later on, but here's what we know for now... 4/14/18 - Adults 18-49 Show Viewers Retention DBS 0.47 DBZKFC 0.34 72.34% FLCL 0.27 79.41% JoJo 0.23 85.19% Gundam 0.20 86.96% BClover 0.18 90.00% HxH 0.18 100.00% Shippuden 0.17 94.44% Dandy 0.17 100.00% Bebop 0.16 94.12% GITS 0.16 100.00% I think sometimes the best boon for the block will be when DBZ Kai ends, and it's crazy to think about that since it WAS responsible for the highest-rated episode yet on the block 3 years ago. But it's clear DBS needs to lead-in to SOMETHING fresh in the 2nd half of 2018!

NEW STREAMING SHOW ALERT: It's Shippuden Filler meow. (Yes, THAT episode, plus a wonderful 2-part saga involving Naruto, Jiraiya, and some giant mollusks, plus Kakashi's kunoichi lover...)

These aren't the true retention numbers for JoJo; that's what that asterisk means. The true retention will be how many viewers it retained from FLCL, which was a rerun, so we don't know that yet. But that retention for what was SUPPOSED to be a hyped episode of DBZ Kai in 18-34 is indeed horrible. 67.8%, when the JoJo an hour later still had 75% of its 18-34 viewers! And those numbers won't be updated, since we'll never know how well FLCL did in 18-34.

Well, it's Tuesday, and we've got a new set of ratings! Brace yourselves, because these are pretty awful, even by today's standards: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-4-14-2018.html 51 WATTERS WORLD FOX NEWS CHANNEL 8:00 PM 60 0.18 1,983 52 BLACK CLOVER ADULT SWIM 1:00 AM 30 0.18 361 I think it's pretty obvious some people just flipped over to Dragon Ball Super between two NBA Playoffs games on ESPN. How else can you explain the precipitous decline between DBS and DBZKFC that's WAY worse than usual? Unfortunately, it seems that pattern will continue next week. It COULD be that FLCL is some sort of sacrificial lamb during the early part of the playoffs season, because later on FLCL Progressive won't be up against Finals games, since they occur on Tuesdays, Thursdays, and Sundays. P2+ Last Week This Week Change DBS 1,042,000 1,020,000 -22,000 DBZKFC 818,000 793,000 -25,000 Countdown 688,000 JoJo 568,000 489,000 -79,000 Gundam 515,000 410,000 -105,000 Bclover 462,000 361,000 -101,000 AVERAGE -66,400 A 18-34 Last Week This Week Change DBS 0.57 0.59 +0.02 DBZKFC 0.50 0.40 -0.10 Countdown 0.44 JoJo 0.34 0.30 -0.04 Gundam 0.33 0.24 -0.09 Bclover 0.26 AVERAGE -0.04 A 18-49 Last Week This Week Change DBS 0.48 0.47 -0.01 DBZKFC 0.40 0.34 -0.06 Countdown 0.34 JoJo 0.26 0.23 -0.03 Gundam 0.26 0.20 -0.06 Bclover 0.22 0.18 -0.04 AVERAGE -0.04 Only Dragon Ball Super went up slightly in 18-34, and it and Kai only down slightly in total viewers. Everything else pretty much sucked big hairy ding dong. As for retention: Total Viewers Show People Retention DBS 1,020,000 N/A DBZKFC 793,000 77.75% JoJo 489,000 61.66%* Gundam 410,000 83.84% Bclover 361,000 88.05% Adults 18-34 Show Rating Estimate Retention DBS 0.59 401,000 N/A DBZKFC 0.40 272,000 67.80% JoJo 0.30 204,000 75.00%* Gundam 0.24 163,000 80.00% Adults 18-49 Show Rating Estimate Retention DBS 0.47 603,000 N/A DBZKFC 0.34 436,000 72.34% JoJo 0.23 295,000 67.65%* Gundam 0.20 256,000 86.96% Bclover 0.18 231,000 90.00% Adults 18-49 Show Rank Change DBS #7 -3 DBZKFC #9 -4 JoJo #20 -4 Gundam #39 -20 Bclover #52 -22 *Calculated by dividing the 12:30 slot number by the 11:30 slot number; i.e.: not a "pure" back-to-back retention percentage. Boy oh boy. What the hell happened with 18-34?? The drop from DBZKFC to JoJo was over a whole hour, but somehow DBS to DBZKFC did even worse than that! Not the case with total viewers and 18-49: The drop from DBZKFC to JoJo was worse, as expected, but DBZKai still retained pretty badly. Once the 2nd through 4th shows bled viewers, Gundam and Black Clover actually retained pretty well. And of course everything dropped in the rankings, though Black Clover may be the crap pace-setter, as it has fallen from #15 on March 31st to #52 just 2 weeks later! Guess that's what being on an hour and a half later does for ya. That's all for now, until SBD updates a little later on this afternoon!

Y'all digging it?

Knight's & Magic, despite ridiculously incorrect punctuation, would probably be the "isekai" runner-up to Re:Zero. We certainly wouldn't be missing mecha. I gave it a try but ultimately ended up dropping it.

It wasn't having an outage at 7 PM every Monday night that might not have been corrected until the next morning. That's at least slightly more competent than what we had before! But at least it seems it's done now, and One-Punch Man continues to stream, making it officially the longest-streaming show on the Marathon stream yet. All previous shows have lasted for a week or less (in the September 2015-February 2018 era, 4 days). But it looks like OPM will be the marathonning show for 8 days or more!

What the hell did I just spend 6 minutes 20 seconds watching!? This might be the only game in which it's better for the hero to get knocked unconscious (not dead, and sometimes revived enough to preform the "deed") than to clear the game, except that you get tired of seeing the hero have more sex than you... ...but I'm SURE some couples have played a sex game while playing this game...

Could also be June 2nd when/if we lose GITS. That means that, barring an Independence Day marathon, the first 9 episodes would air on TV before the DVD/BD release of the first 13. Gundam Wing I'm picking to replace Space Dandy in August, but at 3 AM? Hmmmm...

Ah, very well. So 2199 and 2202 have great production values (think Gundam Unicorn) because they were first released theatrically in Japan! I can dig it. These need to be on Toonami. Re:Zero would be a great show to lead into Black Clover, but otherwise, not so much.

We haven't had a true Isekai on the block since SAO II ended in September 2015--unless you count Children Who Chase Lost Voices. I don't see how anything that's been on since then can really be considered Isekai. Black Clover fails because it only has one world where magic is everything, not the "other" world!

You mean this?? https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=18939 This is a Unicorn-style edit of theatrical movies. But then again, so was 2199, to be fair. And they wouldn't be dub premieres, so I'm still sticking with the 2:30 AM slot, at least at first.

Also, face the facts: it IS an older show. https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=13776 Vintage: 2012-04-06 (Episode 1 preview broadcast on Family Gekijo) 2013-04-07 (TV Broadcast) There's no way this belongs before Black Clover, a show that despite coming from an upstart rather than a beloved franchise, is still only 2 months and change behind its Japanese premieres, when otherwise its availability is almost exactly the same (dub streaming on FUNi NOW and VRV). But playing after dub premieres of Hunter x Hunter, a show from around the same time frame? Yeah, I can see that! But on the subject of Re:Zero, THIS just got posted less than an hour ago: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-16/re-zero-anime-english-dubbed-trailer-streamed/.130459 Notice it mentions home video, but fails to mention streaming or TV...things that make you go "hmmm..."

Cool parody thread, bro!

Oh. I haven't even heard of that. Def only room for one Isekai on Toonami at a time...

I guess by "smartphone anime" you mean "Pop Team Epic???" Don't blame ya there! Well what do you know? I would say that might be the #2 contender for the 12:30 PM slot; though it's not a dub premiere, it WOULD work out so that you can watch the whole thing before the DVD release, if there is no Independence Day marathon. I think it's a lot more likely to take GITS place indirectly and premiere at 2:30 AM, however, since it is a considerably older show. And yes, Shippuden still ahead of it, because Star Blazers->Shippuden->Space Dandy is mood and setting whiplash! Blazers->Dandy->Bebop would make a great spacey "closer" combo!