ghostrek Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 ok this whole video is about the chan communities online 4 chan and 8 chan and their connections to the far right or alt right but saying JD Vance the vice presidential candidate from my state could be from one of these communities is pretty far fetch I'm not saying it's not true I just don't think it is also they at the end they also said all online communities are toxic to a certain degree yes but no also 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 "4chan is proof positive that the United States should not have stopped with Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but should have nuked the entire island of Japan off the face of the Earth." 😭😭😭 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusty Shackleford Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Saw the Black Pill book in the background so that tell me all I need to know 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Well all online communities may not be inherently toxic, the visitation of trolls make them that way, and there are just so many kinds that it's actually hard to tell when someone is trolling. I mean you got racist and sexist trolls...pretty easy to spot, flame trolls that is usually don't hold back, polititrolls are a bit tougher, bad faith concern trolls are pretty entertaining, character arc troll who spend their time propping up the most unbelievable of characters, anti trolls, who are just as bad as actual trolls because real trolls feed off them despite them thinking they are helping the community, and they all have their share of bots. Mix all that shit up and you just have to learn to pick your poison and choose your battles. Pretty sure JD is a character arc troll. Bro can't be real. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 One of the advantages of this community is that it's exponentially smaller than 4 chan or 8 chan, and users don't have the necessary anonymity to operate as dedicated bad actors. I would imagine the sheer size of those communities makes it easy for dedicated trolls to operate long term without being pegged and having to adapt their operation to be effective. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 19 hours ago, Insipid said: "4chan is proof positive that the United States should not have stopped with Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but should have nuked the entire island of Japan off the face of the Earth." 😭😭😭 @Insipid what dose 4chan have to do with japan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 5 hours ago, scoobdog said: One of the advantages of this community is that it's exponentially smaller than 4 chan or 8 chan, and users don't have the necessary anonymity to operate as dedicated bad actors. I would imagine the sheer size of those communities makes it easy for dedicated trolls to operate long term without being pegged and having to adapt their operation to be effective. A long time ago this community was large and just as large if not larger asmb it supposedly got taken down by William Street allegedly for us being a den of trolls remember although they didn't want to pay for the fucking boards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 hour ago, ghostrek said: A long time ago this community was large and just as large if not larger asmb it supposedly got taken down by William Street allegedly for us being a den of trolls remember although they didn't want to pay for the fucking boards That was never alleged; they were always honest about the fact there wasn't enough people on the ASMB to warrant the cost. In fact, Luuv marketed the UEMB as being less restrictive than the ASMB which, in hindsight, might have needed a little more fleshing out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 2 hours ago, ghostrek said: @Insipid what dose 4chan have to do with japan 2channel is the original cesspit that 4chan is based on. The main appeal of 4chan was anime and other otaku shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted September 5 Author Share Posted September 5 7 minutes ago, Insipid said: 2channel is the original cesspit that 4chan is based on. The main appeal of 4chan was anime and other otaku shit. ok Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted September 5 Author Share Posted September 5 11 minutes ago, Insipid said: 2channel is the original cesspit that 4chan is based on. The main appeal of 4chan was anime and other otaku shit. anime and other otaku shit. i thought you was a anime fan also Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 1 minute ago, ghostrek said: anime and other otaku shit. i thought you was a anime fan also I am. I wasn't offending anime just now, you know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted September 5 Author Share Posted September 5 3 minutes ago, Insipid said: I am. I wasn't offending anime just now, you know. ok cool with me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
André Toulon Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 3 hours ago, scoobdog said: That was never alleged; they were always honest about the fact there wasn't enough people on the ASMB to warrant the cost. In fact, Luuv marketed the UEMB as being less restrictive than the ASMB which, in hindsight, might have needed a little more fleshing out. Luuv's vision was ok on paper, but when you toss in mfers like Bucket, Viper and myself, you kinda need some sort of rules. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 43 minutes ago, André Toulon said: Luuv's vision was ok on paper, but when you toss in mfers like Bucket, Viper and myself, you kinda need some sort of rules. I think he envisioned a bunch of you’s. You’re the right amount of irreverent, witty and intelligence: your trolling tends to be engaging, and it shows in the kind of engagement your threads get. Guys like you offer a net benefit. However, with every Buddy, there’s bad trolls like Bucket that are idiots, psychopaths like Viper, and their unholy offspring like…. several others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 Ok, I listened to the entire thing. I am familiar with Elle Reeve from her past interviews on Vice. I found this to be interesting overall, and I don't think it's that farfetched to say JD Vance spent too much time online on these desultory communities. I didn't understand what is was about him that made women hate him like they do, but when I think in the scope of online alt right shit, it makes perfect sense. Women have always found those guys to be disgusting, and Vance is probably giving off those vibes. I may buy her Black Pill book. Incel threesome? Ok. Anyway, I wouldn't say 4chan took over the election. Obvious clickbait title, but those types of men did have quite an influence. Many MAGA types would want nothing to do with those weirdos. One last thing, Adam and I roared in laughter at the same time when Elle mentioned the alt right thinks she has fetal alcojol syndrome. Poor woman 😂😭😭 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 (edited) Another point brought up is when does a joke go too far? It was mentioned rhat many 4chaners weren't initially serious about their views, but slowly warmed up to conservative views. This is how white supremacy made its way into the crap. And assholes like Trump can always just say "I was just joking." As the Adam and Elle said, this is pure cowardice. Edited September 6 by Insipid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted September 6 Author Share Posted September 6 34 minutes ago, Insipid said: Another point brought up is when does a joke go too far? It was mentioned rhat many 4chaners weren't initially serious about their views, but slowly warmed up to conservative views. This is how white supremacy made its way into the crap. And assholes like Trump can always just say "I was just joking." As the Adam and Elle said, this is pure cowardice. when is eugenics is a conservative value it's just me but my family (both immediate and extended) is very conservative and we never believe in eugenics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 (edited) 8 minutes ago, ghostrek said: when is eugenics is a conservative value it's just me but my family (both immediate and extended) is very conservative and we never believe in eugenics Life having inherent value, regardless of the ability of economic output, is a strong and very old belief, often heavily influenced by religious values. We fortunately live in a time where it doesn't have to always be survival of the fittest. Besides, the worldwide population is projected to decline, so introducing a policy like Eugenics right now that would accelerate the decline would be especially ret . . . sorry, stupid. Edited September 6 by Insipid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted September 6 Author Share Posted September 6 4 minutes ago, Insipid said: Life having inherent value, regardless of the ability of economic output, is a strong and very old belief, often heavily influenced by religious values. We fortunately live in a time where it doesn't have to always be survival of the fittest. Besides, the worldwide population is projected to decline, so introducing a policy like Eugenics right now that would accelerate the decline would be especially ret . . . sorry, stupid. @Insipid I think in this case I believe cognitively disabled is possibly the most proper term I generally use it for to describe myself as neurodivergent and I'm not technically offended by the term retard because you're not calling me you're using it as a general phrase I mean it is a hurtful word. But in my opinion, a lot of neurotypical people act just as retarded as people of cognitive disabilities and neurodivergent respectively. And the great example that is the drug addicts we see in the world and that's quite literally a cognition problem there 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 7 minutes ago, ghostrek said: @Insipid I think in this case I believe cognitively disabled is possibly the most proper term I generally use it for to describe myself as neurodivergent and I'm not technically offended by the term retard because you're not calling me you're using it as a general phrase I mean it is a hurtful word. But in my opinion, a lot of neurotypical people act just as retarded as people of cognitive disabilities and neurodivergent respectively. And the great example that is the drug addicts we see in the world and that's quite literally a cognition problem there I sometimes use the word against horrible conservative views. Right now, weird is en vogue in this election cycle, but saying retarded hits these people where it truly truly hurts. Eugenics is a retarded idea in the purest meaning of the word; such a policy will retard population growth, which is already plummeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted September 6 Author Share Posted September 6 6 minutes ago, Insipid said: I sometimes use the word against horrible conservative views. Right now, weird is en vogue in this election cycle, but saying retarded hits these people where it truly truly hurts. Eugenics is a retarded idea in the purest meaning of the word; such a policy will retard population growth, which is already plummeting. yes I think personally this is based on views that were popular in the late 19th century and early 20th may I remember JFK's dad Joseph Kennedy Sr euthanizing his one daughter because of cognitive disabilities actually was going against his own religious beliefs that Catholic church back then was against stuff like that against the disabled fun fact the Catholics actually stopped operation a4 or h4 in the Third Reich(aka nazi germany) so yeah so that is tight literally hypocritical I'm also saying that a lot of Protestants has issues against it I think mostly the descendants of German anabaptists with technically aren't anabaptist anymore at that point I believe my theology history is kind of gapping in large gaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insipid Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 I think you're talking about Rosemary Kennedy getting lobotomized. I think of all the Kennedy lives, hers is the most tragic. The sad thing is that since the horrible practice of lobotomy is relatively modern, the Bible does not condemn it. Lobotomy, if I recall correctly, was performed the most after WW2, when Eugenics became very unpopular from the Nazis. Most people who were lobotomized didn't have children though, for various reasons. I guess in a way, it could be considered Eugenics, even though rehabilitation into society was the main intention. Anyway, Eugenics is more about sterilization, and of course that has existed since the days the Bible was written. As for how the denominations of Christianity differ in their views of sterilization, I have no idea. You seem to know more about it than me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted September 6 Author Share Posted September 6 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Insipid said: I think you're talking about Rosemary Kennedy getting lobotomized. I think of all the Kennedy lives, hers is the most tragic. The sad thing is that since the horrible practice of lobotomy is relatively modern, the Bible does not condemn it. Lobotomy, if I recall correctly, was performed the most after WW2, when Eugenics became very unpopular from the Nazis. Most people who were lobotomized didn't have children though, for various reasons. I guess in a way, it could be considered Eugenics, even though rehabilitation into society was the main intention. Anyway, Eugenics is more about sterilization, and of course that has existed since the days the Bible was written. As for how the denominations of Christianity differ in their views of sterilization, I have no idea. You seem to know more about it than me. to be technical the Catholic Church views anit-euthanasia as a pro-life thing but as for the sterilization thing myself I'm not really sure but they probably are against it but I could be wrong. My immediate family is not anti-Catholic although we are Evangelical presidents but a few of my aunts and uncles and the extended family are because of their Evangelical views and highly enough we have I have a great aunt so it's their aunt who is a convert to Catholicism Edited September 6 by ghostrek 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamped Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 Lobotomies and sterilization happened alot in insane asylums and you could really be thrown into one for a shit ton of reasons all under the label of being "mentally deficient" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollFizzlebeef Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 The ruling class is made up of lizard-human hybrids. Some guy from a documentary I once saw on the National Geographic Channel said so. I know this because I, too, am a lizard-human hybrid. I will soon be your overlord. Bow to me, filthy, pitiful humans! lol People are dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted September 17 Author Share Posted September 17 On 9/15/2024 at 7:45 PM, Vamped said: Lobotomies and sterilization happened alot in insane asylums and you could really be thrown into one for a shit ton of reasons all under the label of being "mentally deficient" yes i know that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RollFizzlebeef Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 Yes. Also, lizard-human hybrids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted September 18 Author Share Posted September 18 2 hours ago, RollFizzlebeef said: Yes. Also, lizard-human hybrids. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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