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Black Clover Page 79 Discussion

Last time on Black Clover, Asta, Xerxe, and Mimosa faced off against the team of Kirsch, Sol, and Magna.  Well, sort of.  After Kirsch found out that Magna is a noble, he rushed off on his own to face the Asta's team.  Asta managed to invoke and even improve his new demonic sword technique, and canceled out Kirsch's entire Area of Effect cherry blossom spell and dispelled the Kirsch clones.  Asta then lured Kirsch into a trap, where Xerxe had laid several of his trap spells.  Kirsh sensed them and tripped them, avoiding them, but fell for a good old fashioned trap hole, dug by hand by Asta and Xerxe.  The unlikely and reluctant alliance managed to take out Kirsch, at least for now.  But there's still Sol and Magna to deal with.  How will the rest of the fight go?  Find out tonight, on Black Clover, on Toonami!

 

 

 

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i've always hated how magic anime like this give every single person a different magic affinity instead of spreading out equal basic general magic skills and then supplementing them with individual abilities. they start with the four elements and then add lightning and then scramble to create more affinities. which is why you end up with weird shit like flower petal magic and candle wax magic. maybe everyone can use the five primary elements, but this one guy is particularly talented with water and develops his special moves based on it, but when push comes to shove, he an still use flame and earth magic adequately.

even naruto ends up doing that. series starts and it seems like everyone learns five element ninjutsu at the academy but usually stick to whatever their affinity is when they need to hit hard. but then, it turns out with nobody ever using flame magic when it would be most beneficial except the one guy who can apparently do flame magic

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Hey, you assholes are acting like Naruto characters!

Sex trafficking?  Isn't that a little dark for this series?

Heh it's like when Yami found everyone.  That's a sweet backstory.

Still seems odd for Sol to tell him of all people this story.

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1 minute ago, ben0119 said:

Hey, you assholes are acting like Naruto characters!

Sex trafficking?  Isn't that a little dark for this series?

Heh it's like when Yami found everyone.  That's a sweet backstory.

Still seems odd for Sol to tell him of all people this story.

it's relevant....so is the Nazi storyline in AOT

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2 hours ago, CorbeauKarasu said:

i've always hated how magic anime like this give every single person a different magic affinity instead of spreading out equal basic general magic skills and then supplementing them with individual abilities. they start with the four elements and then add lightning and then scramble to create more affinities. which is why you end up with weird shit like flower petal magic and candle wax magic. maybe everyone can use the five primary elements, but this one guy is particularly talented with water and develops his special moves based on it, but when push comes to shove, he an still use flame and earth magic adequately.

even naruto ends up doing that. series starts and it seems like everyone learns five element ninjutsu at the academy but usually stick to whatever their affinity is when they need to hit hard. but then, it turns out with nobody ever using flame magic when it would be most beneficial except the one guy who can apparently do flame magic

I agree with you, but I still really enjoy this show for what it is.  What you describe is how magic using characters would traditionally work. 

But yeah, a lot of anime seem to go for the one affinity thing.  In Fairy Tail people have to actually learn the magic, so I suppose they focus on whatever they're best at and take to and train up those skills.  It would take a lot more time and training to master multiple disciplines.  In the rare case when someone can use more than one type, it's a big deal. 

With Black Clover it seems people are just born with a certain power that fits them.  We've seen it's genetic in some cases too.  Finral and his brother use spatial magic, but in different ways, the Silvas use water or liquid of some kind (Nozel's is mercury, oddly,) Mimosa and Kirsch both use plant-based magic, that other family uses fire, etc.

In Naruto there were definitely some bullshit asspull retcons.  Sasuke uses fire but then is also able to use lightning.  Sarutobi uses like 3 or 4 different elements.  Rasengan was originally described as just manipulating chakra and had nothing to do with wind element.  Kakashi can copy and use tons of jutsus regardless of element, with his Sharingan.  If chakra natures were always intended to be a thing then they would have been brought up early on.  So of course it's just said that some people can have multiple natures and Sasuke happens to have fire and lightning, because of course he does.  Hokage can have multiple because he's hax Hokage I guess.  Kakashi can use all those jutsus because of Sharingan loophole I guess.  It was never explained.  By the way, when the last time someone even used Sharingan to copy anything?  I feel like that aspect was forgotten about.  There's also many characters whose powers don't clearly line up to any element.  Bugs, shadows, changing body mass??  Yep, chakra natures were definitely a retcon, and should never have been put into the story in the first place.

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