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1 minute ago, ben0119 said:

That's actually his 4th form and probably a lot strong than he was in the Namek/Frieza Saga.  But yeah, Gohan is still pretty pathetic.

Actually that's his base form. He mastered transforming to weaken his power since he couldn't control it.

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Uhh, the roided up form isn't supposed to be taller, or that big.  And it's not a form, but Frieza just using 100% of 4th form.

All the build up for Frost and he gets eliminated just like that?

Wow, erased Frost.

No, narrator, Frieza can't be trusted!

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1 minute ago, ben0119 said:

Uhh, the roided up form isn't supposed to be taller, or that big.  And it's not a form, but Frieza just using 100% of 4th form.

All the build up for Frost and he gets eliminated just like that?

Wow, erased Frost.

No, narrator, Frieza can't be trusted!

His 4th form is his original form. 

Frieza is one of the villains in the series who possesses an entire range of transformations, each one being quite different than the others. It is implied by Vegeta and Frieza himself in the series that Frieza's fourth, most powerful form is actually his original form, with the other three being forms that suppress and conserve his enormous power. Frieza later confirms this while fighting the main protagonist, Goku. His forms seem to revolve around both western and Japanese concepts of demons.

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3 hours ago, Daos said:

His 4th form is his original form. 

Frieza is one of the villains in the series who possesses an entire range of transformations, each one being quite different than the others. It is implied by Vegeta and Frieza himself in the series that Frieza's fourth, most powerful form is actually his original form, with the other three being forms that suppress and conserve his enormous power. Frieza later confirms this while fighting the main protagonist, Goku. His forms seem to revolve around both western and Japanese concepts of demons.

Man, I don't remember that.  Kind of doesn't make sense why King Cold was just using the 2nd form then.  This is from Z and not some Super bullshit?

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Nah that was from Z, they just mentioned it like once though.

Frieza's Unique Ways Of Creating His Forms

Many people do not realize this, but Frieza's forms works in the opposite way that all other characters transformations work. Every character in DB have transformations which are there to increase their power. Frieza's forms were created to suppress his power, not increase it.

This is a fact for the simple reason that Frieza's 4th form is his true self state, the way he looked when he was born. Frieza created forms 1-3 to suppress his power. In the battle against Goku, he transforms like everyone else, to increase power, but later it was revealed by Frieza himself that his 4th form was his TRUE self, and that forms 1-3 were created to suppress his ki because his full power was too much to control 24/7.

Compare that to the fact that when it comes to Saiyans, their base forms are their true selves, the way they were born. SSJ transformations are to increase power, and is not their true selves. It is their true power, I.E. full power yes, but not true selves.

Cooler works like everyone else. When we first see him, he is in his 1st form, and it is his true self state, like Frieza's 4th form, only difference is Cooler didn't have the suppressing forms Frieza created that were unique only to himself. Cooler however, had his own unique transformation, which was his 2nd form (stated to be his 4th form in bad Funi dub lines) that increased his power instead of suppressing it.

This is why we never see Frieza transform further from his 4th, true self state, other than 100% that is, because he and his brother work opposite of one another.

Frieza created forms to suppress. Cooler created a form to increase strength. This would suggest that people of Frieza's race can create forms on their own, and suit whatever purposes they need.

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Crazy prediction that I hope isn't actually a spoiler, cuz I haven't seen anything beyond Toonami, and I don't really care enough for any of you to try to tell me one way or another:

Had a sudden vision of how this entire arc is going to end. Naturally Goku's team wins. With the winning wish from the Super Divine OMGAmazing dragon, Goku decides to wish all the other universes back into existence. There's a brief moment of "OMG, how could you go against the Grand Zenis or w/e" before he's like "Lol, no, it's fine, this is great, now we'll get to have the tournament again someday, and it'll be even awesomer.(and also now the writers can keep using all these characters they've already come up with for future filler and shit)" And in the end, everything is back to exactly how it was at the start(coincidentally not unlike a filler arc), while all the other universes have to grudgingly accept that the dangus that got them into this mess actually somehow managed to get them out of it.

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7 hours ago, rpgamer said:

Crazy prediction that I hope isn't actually a spoiler, cuz I haven't seen anything beyond Toonami, and I don't really care enough for any of you to try to tell me one way or another:

Had a sudden vision of how this entire arc is going to end. Naturally Goku's team wins. With the winning wish from the Super Divine OMGAmazing dragon, Goku decides to wish all the other universes back into existence. There's a brief moment of "OMG, how could you go against the Grand Zenis or w/e" before he's like "Lol, no, it's fine, this is great, now we'll get to have the tournament again someday, and it'll be even awesomer.(and also now the writers can keep using all these characters they've already come up with for future filler and shit)" And in the end, everything is back to exactly how it was at the start(coincidentally not unlike a filler arc), while all the other universes have to grudgingly accept that the dangus that got them into this mess actually somehow managed to get them out of it.

Spoiler

You're not wrong but it's not Goku who makes that wish

 

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