CorbeauKarasu Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 NOFUCKING DUH HE'S LYING Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorbeauKarasu Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 cute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaclease Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Fireworks? Wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorbeauKarasu Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 well, i'll be a giant monkey. is that supposed to be a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 This music lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roymustang1990 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Still really weird that gok u can warped himself to the afterlife with out any sort of permission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) LOL Jaco Edited November 11, 2018 by DangerMouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, elfie said: NONE of Super is based on anything except for the first two arcs! None of it is. It's an original series and the Super manga came afterwards... @Daos just said this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 So who wants to bet this episode gets an A+ from that ratings site? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarPanda Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Its taco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 (edited) "Of course I am" Edited November 11, 2018 by DangerMouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 "We just saved the one last member of a species that can't breed with anyone and will die soon! WE DID GOOD!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 LOL 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Just now, ben0119 said: None of it is. It's an original series and the Super manga came afterwards... @Daos just said this... My argument was why is he arguing about THIS ep when other eps of Super have been a ton better, mainly the ones in the Future Trunks arc?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarPanda Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Number 17 is in 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Goku: but all you did was show up after we already defeated them Me: so kinda like the when you defeated Frieza in the Ressurection F arc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 LMAO 17, a luxury cruise liner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roymustang1990 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 They should go find Android 16 now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 It's hard to figure out which animals are from other planets when this Earth's animals already look so weird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 There we go, finally caring again Goku 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Hahahaha Krillin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 When did he get heavy eyeshadow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 "This is gonna be one hell of a team" Damn right 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delaclease Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 "This is going to be one hell of a team." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarPanda Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 The lochness monster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, elfie said: My argument was why is he arguing about THIS ep when other eps of Super have been a ton better, mainly the ones in the Future Trunks arc?? Because this is literally pointless filler. There's nothing to buy time for, no manga to catch up to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 "Buu's changed since then he's a good guy noW" me: until Mr. Satan dies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Also a reminder that 17 was alive during the Buu Saga and did absolutely fuck all about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 "We didn't save the unicorns." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 8 minutes ago, Daos said: I know, if only Goku could like... move faster than the eye could see. Or teleport. If only. Yeah what the hell?! And bringing him to King Kai's planet is not needed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roymustang1990 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Just now, Daos said: Also a reminder that 17 was alive during the Buu Saga and did absolutely fuck all about it. Becuz toriyama forgot 17 rofl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CorbeauKarasu Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, elfie said: When did he get heavy eyeshadow? he tarted out with heavy eyeshadow. their earliest appearances had that feature, i recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 1 minute ago, Daos said: Also a reminder that 17 was alive during the Buu Saga and did absolutely fuck all about it. Yeah it sucks. 17 should have been in that arc more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Just now, Roymustang1990 said: Becuz toriyama forgot 17 rofl Hey he remembered him at the very end! He got to give his energy to the Spirit bomb. That's good for Toriyama. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 2 minutes ago, ben0119 said: Yeah it sucks. 17 should have been in that arc more. Yeah even TIEN of all people came to help out. Talk about over matched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, CorbeauKarasu said: this made no sense. there's no way 17 is stronger than perfect cell. and yet goku definitely is....by a lot He's a cyborg, so he can train to get stronger. He's not full machine like 16 who would need new parts for power upgrades. Given how powerful he and 18 were to being with, it's not a surprise. Also his energy is infinite so he can keep fighting at full power and never get tired, this would surely be a huge advantage with training as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Holy shit was that a hint of real Goku right there?! Saying he can't bear the thought of people getting hurt because he wanted to have a good fight. Someone must have strapped down Toriyama and locked him up in a broom closet somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Daos said: Yeah even TIEN of all people came to help out. Talk about over matched. Yeah and no way Tien is stronger than 17. Maybe Toriyama really did forget him for a bit? But even though his numbered android literal twin sister is right there?? I don't get the idea 17 would take pacifist sworn not to interfere stance either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 26 minutes ago, mochi said: Super is exactly the same as GT At least GT got Goku's personality right. Though Super seems to be rahabbing him now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 Bulma or 18 could buy you that damn boat, 17. They're both rich. That's like some of the dumber Twisted Metal wishes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted November 11, 2018 Share Posted November 11, 2018 7 minutes ago, ben0119 said: Yeah and no way Tien is stronger than 17. Maybe Toriyama really did forget him for a bit? But even though his numbered android literal twin sister is right there?? I don't get the idea 17 would take pacifist sworn not to interfere stance either. I think Toriyama forgot that he got resurrected to be honest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted November 11, 2018 Author Share Posted November 11, 2018 4 hours ago, Daos said: So who wants to bet this episode gets an A+ from that ratings site? THINK AGAIN! https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/dragon-ball-super/episode-87/.115168 "B-"/Community Score 3.5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 On 11/10/2018 at 8:40 PM, ben0119 said: At least GT got Goku's personality right. Though Super seems to be rahabbing him now. I'd argue they're only VERY SLIGHTLY rehabbing his personality, and only in some episopdes GT = Ignored canon entirely and fucked up power scaling completely, made Vegeta totally useless, BUT got Goku's personality right Super = ignores canon in isolated spots but is more consistent over all, totally fucked power scaling, doesn't make vegeta totally useless(he carried the whole team through the u6 vs. u7 tournament) but does make him into a joke character, and completely ruined Goku's personality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 In GT power scaling was so bad that Kid Goku was stronger than all the other characters combined. One of the things people didn't like about DBZ was it made all the non Saiyan's useless. GT dialed that up to 100 and made everyone except Goku useless. Even fused Uub is useless. The guy Goku spent TEN YEARS training. Super is trying to be as stupid though, by pretending SSB Goku couldn't beat Krillin with a flick of his finger. Here's GT Goku easily fending off SS Gohan and Goten in base form... as an 8 year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) On 11/12/2018 at 1:18 PM, mochi said: I'd argue they're only VERY SLIGHTLY rehabbing his personality, and only in some episopdes GT = Ignored canon entirely and fucked up power scaling completely, made Vegeta totally useless, BUT got Goku's personality right Super = ignores canon in isolated spots but is more consistent over all, totally fucked power scaling, doesn't make vegeta totally useless(he carried the whole team through the u6 vs. u7 tournament) but does make him into a joke character, and completely ruined Goku's personality This episode we saw some of the old Goku with what he said about feeling responsible for the tournament and people getting hurt because he wanted to fight some strong opponents. But why didn't he just Instant Transmission and grab the remote from that guy? Hell he could just use regular super speed. You know the effect, where it's like they warp around. Uhh GT was pretty cool with how it followed canon and used the Tuffles as villains, or at least one of them, and making the Dragon Balls themselves as the final villains was brilliant. Loved the featuring of 17 too. It followed canon arguably better than Super does... It totally fucked up Trunks' personality and made him into a fruity goofball though. Also dropped the ball on not having Pan go Super Saiyan and pass the torch to her, Trunks, Goten, and Uub. All about Goku and Vegeta again sadly. There is some GT comedy doujin out there where Bra basically gives Vegeta heart attacks the whole time, going out in slutty outfits and bragging how she's fucked a ton of guys, and then 17 knocks her up LOL. I printed out pages but can't find it online! I'll take pics or scan it later. And Vegeta is PERFECT as a comedy character. You just got a stick up your ass and have a weird obsession with Vegeta that doesn't allow anything bad or funny to happen to him. It's dumb. Edited November 14, 2018 by ben0119 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 On 11/12/2018 at 3:12 PM, Daos said: In GT power scaling was so bad that Kid Goku was stronger than all the other characters combined. One of the things people didn't like about DBZ was it made all the non Saiyan's useless. GT dialed that up to 100 and made everyone except Goku useless. Even fused Uub is useless. The guy Goku spent TEN YEARS training. Super is trying to be as stupid though, by pretending SSB Goku couldn't beat Krillin with a flick of his finger. Here's GT Goku easily fending off SS Gohan and Goten in base form... as an 8 year old. I'd rather the power scaling be fucked up the have the other characters have a chance than make everyone but Goku useless. But, as someone said before, at least Toriyama didn't go with the whole "humans are special" cliche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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