Sketch Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Looking back, Mob's dub didn't start rolling out of FUNimation's site until December of 2016 and the series premiered in Japan in July of 2016. That's 4 months after it started and 1 month after it ended in Japan. Definitely not close to the 6 week turn-around Durarara x2 had. SAOII finished airing in Japan in late December of 2014 and premiered on Toonami in March of 2015, just about 3 months later and it was 24 episodes. One-Punch Man finished airing in Japan in late December 2015 and premiered on Toonami in July of 2016, about 7 months later. Megalo Box may not be BangZoom but it finished in Japan in late June and will start on Toonami in December about 6 months later. So even a 3 month turn-around for Mob season 2 would be pretty remarkable for BangZoom but who knows? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted October 22, 2018 Author Share Posted October 22, 2018 6 hours ago, Sketch said: Looking back, Mob's dub didn't start rolling out of FUNimation's site until December of 2016 and the series premiered in Japan in July of 2016. That's 4 months after it started and 1 month after it ended in Japan. Definitely not close to the 6 week turn-around Durarara x2 had. SAOII finished airing in Japan in late December of 2014 and premiered on Toonami in March of 2015, just about 3 months later and it was 24 episodes. One-Punch Man finished airing in Japan in late December 2015 and premiered on Toonami in July of 2016, about 7 months later. Megalo Box may not be BangZoom but it finished in Japan in late June and will start on Toonami in December about 6 months later. So even a 3 month turn-around for Mob season 2 would be pretty remarkable for BangZoom but who knows? I recall they were still dubbing SAO season 2 as the beginning of it was airing on Toonami. Actors tweeted about that when episodes rolled out. So there's some possibility it could happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 It's been a while since Toonami has been able to stun us with an announcement a week before premiere. The people who are saying the rights came down to the wire for this one are probably right. I haven't watched Mob Psycho but have definitely heard all about it, so I'm up for the ride. Assuming I get caught up with Toonami At least I guess this explains the random One Punch Man rerun on the block. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted October 23, 2018 Author Share Posted October 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, CaptainStarwind said: At least I guess this explains the random One Punch Man rerun on the block. It's the ONE Power Hour! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 On 10/19/2018 at 11:04 PM, StarPanda said: Ok I can finally check it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 6 hours ago, elfie said: It's the ONE Power Hour! They'll actually be on simultaneously: Punchy in the East and Mob in the West! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted October 25, 2018 Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/21/2018 at 7:51 PM, Daos said: Toonami isn't typically able to get new stuff.... so probably not. They got SAO II very quickly. =3 It wasn't done airing in Japan when the dub started production. Also, Space Dandy WORLD PREMIERE, Attack on Titan III, among other things. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 5 hours ago, ben0119 said: They got SAO II very quickly. =3 It wasn't done airing in Japan when the dub started production. Also, Space Dandy WORLD PREMIERE, Attack on Titan III, among other things. More clearly, they always try to get stuff that is as new as possible, but A LOT OF THE TIME, they can't, due to either dub not being ready, or legal rights with their business rivals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 MHA? Years behind. TG? Years. Super? Over a year. Mob Psycho? Year and a half? They really struggle getting the biggest stuff. BC, PTE and other assorted stuff no one wants....... they can get quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 6 minutes ago, Daos said: MHA? Years behind. TG? Years. Super? Over a year. Mob Psycho? Year and a half? They really struggle getting the biggest stuff. BC, PTE and other assorted stuff no one wants....... they can get quicker. ... Super's DUB is a premiere though. The Super episodes were aired around a year ago each. Toonami is two years behind the roll-out of the MHA episodes, but that's because at the time, Funimation/Crunchyroll had exclusive rights to distribute them in the USA and Toonami had to wait until the contract expired. Funimation/Crunchyroll are still posting the new episodes going foward though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, elfie said: ... Super's DUB is a premiere though. The Super episodes were aired around a year ago each. Toonami is two years behind the roll-out of the MHA episodes, but that's because at the time, Funimation/Crunchyroll had exclusive rights to distribute them in the USA and Toonami had to wait until the contract expired. Funimation/Crunchyroll are still posting the new episodes going foward though. Yeah but it was the SUB of Super getting so many views that it broke Cruchyroll during the Tournament of Power. The DUB isn't going to have that kind of impact because it's old news already. Best case scenario, make a deal with Funimation for one of their simuldubs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 34 minutes ago, Daos said: Yeah but it was the SUB of Super getting so many views that it broke Cruchyroll during the Tournament of Power. The DUB isn't going to have that kind of impact because it's old news already. Best case scenario, make a deal with Funimation for one of their simuldubs. Buddy, anime dubs are ALWAYS old news because they come after the sub. It's been this way for like 3 decades by now. For years I expected everyone to just get used to the idea that anime in the USA is meant to be seen MORE THAN ONCE just by the nature of how many times they keep getting rereleased. This isn't just a Toonami problem. Toonami has made deals with simuldubs before, with decent-to-poor results. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatch Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) Simuldubs don't really work for a television block, as it's impossible to know if a show will be good based on how much is available. Sometimes, the first few episodes can be promising, but you ultimately end up with a bomb like Dimension W that you're embarrassed about but still have to air the last few episodes of. Even Adam West's Batman would scoff at this idea. I also want to say that Toonami doesn't need to air the freshest stuff in order to get good ratings. The shows can succeed based on if they're good and nothing else. That's how the [as] revival started off, and it eventually blossomed into the block we have today. Now they're getting Megalo Box, which will be airing its dub less than six nine months after the Japanese premiere... but it also happens to be a great show. That's got to account for something. Edited October 26, 2018 by Blatch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Blatch said: Simuldubs don't really work for a television block, as it's impossible to know if a show will be good based on how much is available. Sometimes, the first few episodes can be promising, but you ultimately end up with a bomb like Dimension W that you're embarrassed about but still have to air the last few episodes of. Even Adam West's Batman would scoff at this idea. I also want to say that Toonami doesn't need to air the freshest stuff in order to get good ratings. The shows can succeed based on if they're good and nothing else. That's how the [as] revival started off, and it eventually blossomed into the block we have today. Now they're getting Megalo Box, which will be airing its dub less than six months after the Japanese premiere... but it also happens to be a great show. That's got to account for something. Wasn't MegaloBox April-June? Then it's 8-9 months! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 4 hours ago, Blatch said: Simuldubs don't really work for a television block, as it's impossible to know if a show will be good based on how much is available. Sometimes, the first few episodes can be promising, but you ultimately end up with a bomb like Dimension W that you're embarrassed about but still have to air the last few episodes of. Even Adam West's Batman would scoff at this idea. It hurts being the only one here who didn't even mind how Dimension W ended. Guess this is what I get for being the kind of anime fan who pauses while watching. God forbid I want to attempt to sort out what's going on in the story instead of complaining about it and making no effort at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 5 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: It hurts being the only one here who didn't even mind how Dimension W ended. Guess this is what I get for being the kind of anime fan who pauses while watching. God forbid I want to attempt to sort out what's going on in the story instead of complaining about it and making no effort at all! By the time the show ended, I ran out of opinions. It was just a blah fail at that point. I WAS however truly annoyed at how Toonami ran the credits music over important dialogue in the epilogue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 5 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: It hurts being the only one here who didn't even mind how Dimension W ended. Guess this is what I get for being the kind of anime fan who pauses while watching. God forbid I want to attempt to sort out what's going on in the story instead of complaining about it and making no effort at all! I didn't mind how it ended earlier. If you ask me, while the final arc was really slow and plodding, it wasn't all THAT bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 1 hour ago, elfie said: By the time the show ended, I ran out of opinions. It was just a blah fail at that point. I WAS however truly annoyed at how Toonami ran the credits music over important dialogue in the epilogue! You do realize that anime has music play over character dialogue to the point of muting it out on purpose all the time, right? Don't blame Toonami, blame the director. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 7 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: It hurts being the only one here who didn't even mind how Dimension W ended. Guess this is what I get for being the kind of anime fan who pauses while watching. God forbid I want to attempt to sort out what's going on in the story instead of complaining about it and making no effort at all! You're overthinking it. It wasn't just convoluted and hard to follow.... it just flat out didn't make sense. The fact that top tier VA talent along with top notch art was wasted on this thing makes it worse. Also it was somehow boring despite being ridiculously fast paced. How they pulled that off I don't know. Didn't it turn in to a weird haunted mansion show for 2 or 3 episodes at some point as well? Long story short, it tried to be the new Stein's Gate and it just didn't work on any level. And yeah doing RANDOM simuldubs is death IMO. You can't just randomly air anime no one has seen. There's maybe 3 good anime per season. Dimension W probably taught them that. Lets say a few months ago a big name like Index3 announced it would have a simuldub coming out. You could make a deal with Funimation, air the first 2 seasons, and then be ready to air the new episodes at the same time Funimation does, or a week behind, depending on whatever deal you can work out with them. You might have to plug their merchandise on Toonami, or give up your first born, or Demarco might have to pleasure them sexually.... but the point is you've gotta try something here. Megalo Box and Mob Psycho are steps in the right direction, but it would be nice to see them at least get to the point where they're airing stuff that's only one season old. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 3 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: You do realize that anime has music play over character dialogue to the point of muting it out on purpose all the time, right? Don't blame Toonami, blame the director. ... I CANNOT remember a time Neo-Toonami ever did that except in that one instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 49 minutes ago, elfie said: ... I CANNOT remember a time Neo-Toonami ever did that except in that one instance. Dude, what I'm trying to say was the dialogue in that scene was always muted out by the music. Hell, I even bought the Dimension W home video release and saw that same epilogue scene, and it was the same as it was in the Toonami broadcast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 2 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: Dude, what I'm trying to say was the dialogue in that scene was always muted out by the music. Hell, I even bought the Dimension W home video release and saw that same epilogue scene, and it was the same as it was in the Toonami broadcast. Well then it was a VERY awkward editing decision because I know I was not alone in thinking there was supposed to be dialogue there! Characters' MOUTHS were moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 53 minutes ago, elfie said: Well then it was a VERY awkward editing decision because I know I was not alone in thinking there was supposed to be dialogue there! Characters' MOUTHS were moving. You haven't seen enough anime if you haven't seen a music-only montage like that at least once in your life. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 3 hours ago, PokeNirvash said: You haven't seen enough anime if you haven't seen a music-only montage like that at least once in your life. Well I GUESS NOT. HARUMF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 From what I understand the Dimension W anime was squashed down from like 90 chapters of manga or something. So maybe it would have been better if it had more room to breathe. But, the story and concept was still silly, regardless of pacing. And at the time, the manga wasn't even licensed, so that should tell you something. This review nails it pretty well - https://anitay.kinja.com/dimension-w-the-anitay-review-1773744938 But yeah, simuldubs are a big gamble. Demarco has dropped the ball on not getting shows fast enough, hopefully that will improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 Tokyo Ghoul was way late which is why, despite its rank in the Toonami show request polls, we figured they'd never get it. But... then they did. I don't know if they either couldn't get it, or passed it over for other things, but apparently since the fans asked for it, they "had" to get it. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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