Poof Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Once again we gave the secret service the slip. I remember much more from the dream this time. This time I was clearly his romantic interest. We were hanging out in a suite at a cheap hotel with a russian model chick. I was me in the dream so I didn't care that he brought her to fuck around with since I'm rather easygoing. She was going to sleep in the living room of the suite on the couch which folded out though. Same party things went down as last time. He drank and reluctantly smoked weed with us. Nothing really too eventful happened at that time. But then later, it was like 2am. He was in bed with me. He was down to his underwear and t shirt about to fall asleep. Russian girl was set up in the other room. The night was over. I got up to go shower before I'd fall asleep without taking one and told him so. The bathroom door was off the living room so I had to leave the bedroom and walk by the Russian girly who was asleep already. I showered up, wrapped my hair in a towel, and opened the bathroom door, and the couch was put back. The living room was empty. I heard a groan from the other room. Figured they were fucking, but not a minute or two after the groan did Russian lady walk out of the bedroom fully dressed with her heels on. She walked quickly to the door to outside, opened it, stopped, turned to me, and said, "Goodbye little girl." Then left. I opened the door to the bedroom and he was hanging from the ceiling fan, fully dressed in his suit, all blue and gray. Some of his things were taken out of his suitcase and spread over the dresser as well. Papers and stationary pads. Some leather bound folders trimmed in gold. I'd never seen them before. I took a look. It was so interesting I couldn't stop looking. All the stationary pads were completely filled out with handwritten notes. The folders had documents with certain parts underlined, circled, with arrows pointing one thing to another, and things scrawled in the margins. I noticed the dates on everything. All this stuff was from the last week. Handwritten junk filling out like half a dozen thick legal pads. I realized this meant he actually was paying very close attention and thinking very hard about the things he chose to do. I'm not trying to say that that's what I think Trump is like irl. This was a dream, OK? Idk why he was genius-trump in my dream. Maybe an excuse for my psyche as to why I would choose to hang out with him in the first place in this scenario, IDK, OK people? But anyway he was all blue and smurfy and dead. I grabbed up all the documents and put them in my suitcase, found the closest bus stop, left, and started walking. The dream ended w/me walking and trying to think how to not get all this pinned on me since that was probably the backup plan for russian assassin girl if nobody believed suicide. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 ok that is a nightmare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, ghostrek said: ok that is a nightmare Told u Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 1 minute ago, Poof said: Told u yes who in the hell wants to dream about trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 Holy shit. You dreamed of Trump hanging himself? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, ghostrek said: yes who in the hell wants to dream about trump don't worry about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 10 minutes ago, scoobdog said: Holy shit. You dreamed of Trump hanging himself? The russian woman did it. She was in there with him while he was still alive bc I heard him dying in there. I thought they were fucking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 That is one erotic nightmare, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghostrek Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Poof said: don't worry about it ok? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkenwarrior Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 A Freudian field day You've got some repressed thoughts little girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, scoobdog said: That is one erotic nightmare, Lots of my nightmares are erotic. Most of my dreams are sex or nightmares. Sometimes theres crossover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, Drunkenwarrior said: A Freudian field day Freud was full of shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Drunkenwarrior said: A Freudian field day You've got some repressed thoughts little girl It's not that crazy. I dated an exec of a forbes 500 company in nyc for alil over a year. I've brought up how similar he was in personality to trump before. He was like trump-lite. It made the whole election weird. I know it contributes to these dreams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 4 minutes ago, Poof said: It's not that crazy. I dated an exec of a forbes 500 company in nyc for alil over a year. I've brought up how similar he was in personality to trump before. He was like trump-lite. It made the whole election weird. I know it contributes to these dreams. It makes you wonder if Trump is that exec or if he's emulating that kind of exec. How smart was your bf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, scoobdog said: It makes you wonder if Trump is that exec or if he's emulating that kind of exec. How smart was your bf? Theres a lot of those guys in ny. Oldschool machismo manhattanite executives. Its like a style. Theyre all emulating each other. Or that roy cohn guy idk. My ex was smarter and better looking than trump imo. I cant / wont tell u who but it certainly wasnt trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunkenwarrior Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 37 minutes ago, scoobdog said: Freud was full of shit. shut up scoob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 9 minutes ago, Poof said: Theres a lot of those guys in ny. Oldschool machismo manhattanite executives. Its like a style. Theyre all emulating each other. Or that roy cohn guy idk. My ex was smarter and better looking than trump imo. I cant / wont tell u who but it certainly wasnt trump. That's fine with me. One of the most striking things for me about Trump is the inconsistency with which he acts. The tweets are very clearly formulated to sound much like the exec Trump played on TV which, in turn, was something he created for the show based on a lot of different stereotypes for the prototypical Wall Street Alpha that have existed since the days of the Robber Barons. But, when he's in a room full of other people and is expected to offer a intellectual sounding triviality that makes it sound like he understands the conversation, he inevitably flip flops or completely goes off script. There's no question he's intellectually inferior; the questions come about as to how he utilizes the alpha prototype effectively. The kind of guy your ex-bf and all the other alphas like him is a last, heavily diminished vestige of the feudal nobleman. We might have lost all the social programming that trained us to be serfs to the local land lord, but in some respects the presentation of wealth and arrogance are still somewhat attractive to "commoners" who see themselves exerting power over their own condition. Trump has raised this kind of pastiche to ironically comical proportions, however it's not as stupid as it might seem. Unlike a true nobleman, a robber baron can use his wealth to influence society in indirect ways without incurring the direct responsibility of controlling that society. In that respect, other morally repugnant people like Carnegie, Rockefeller, Huntington, Stanford(, and so on) have been able to minimize the direct impact of their tyrannically leadership through major public works such as establishing universities, creating massive philanthropical organizations and building large public spaces. The Trump in your dream adheres to the archetype. He's an icon, where the symbolic vestiges of his power are in the notebooks he keeps and the autoerotic nature of his murder. He doesn't appear to ever be completely naked, and that is symbolic of the fact that the man himself is a reflection of what he is wearing rather than the other way around. The actual Trump doesn't adhere to this well coifed facade partly because he's not particularly good at playing the part and partly because it's anachronistic, yet the image still holds power because people are drawn to the ostentatious display itself. Of particular interest is the juxtaposition of his notes chaotically spread throughout the room while his hanging corpse remains more or less complete and contained. I think it reasonable to consider that the archetype has such a history that it's ingrained in our psyches and, in the absence of feudalism, still holds significant value as a symbol. Although you ended up leaving the room, you still removed the one element of disorder in the scene thus restoring the "powerful" trump. Actually, your effort to control that image goes all the way back to you leaving to shower before he can be completely exposed. At a superficial level, you and the Russian represent the dueling forces of home and abroad seeking to contain and utilize that power. The Russian seeks to destabilize by destroying the icon, and you stabilize by restoring it. ... For the record, I'm still not psychoanalyzing anything. I'm merely exploring the explicit symbolism in the dream/nightmare. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted April 17, 2018 Author Share Posted April 17, 2018 28 minutes ago, scoobdog said: That's fine with me. One of the most striking things for me about Trump is the inconsistency with which he acts. The tweets are very clearly formulated to sound much like the exec Trump played on TV which, in turn, was something he created for the show based on a lot of different stereotypes for the prototypical Wall Street Alpha that have existed since the days of the Robber Barons. But, when he's in a room full of other people and is expected to offer a intellectual sounding triviality that makes it sound like he understands the conversation, he inevitably flip flops or completely goes off script. There's no question he's intellectually inferior; the questions come about as to how he utilizes the alpha prototype effectively. The kind of guy your ex-bf and all the other alphas like him is a last, heavily diminished vestige of the feudal nobleman. We might have lost all the social programming that trained us to be serfs to the local land lord, but in some respects the presentation of wealth and arrogance are still somewhat attractive to "commoners" who see themselves exerting power over their own condition. Trump has raised this kind of pastiche to ironically comical proportions, however it's not as stupid as it might seem. Unlike a true nobleman, a robber baron can use his wealth to influence society in indirect ways without incurring the direct responsibility of controlling that society. In that respect, other morally repugnant people like Carnegie, Rockefeller, Huntington, Stanford(, and so on) have been able to minimize the direct impact of their tyrannically leadership through major public works such as establishing universities, creating massive philanthropical organizations and building large public spaces. The Trump in your dream adheres to the archetype. He's an icon, where the symbolic vestiges of his power are in the notebooks he keeps and the autoerotic nature of his murder. He doesn't appear to ever be completely naked, and that is symbolic of the fact that the man himself is a reflection of what he is wearing rather than the other way around. The actual Trump doesn't adhere to this well coifed facade partly because he's not particularly good at playing the part and partly because it's anachronistic, yet the image still holds power because people are drawn to the ostentatious display itself. Of particular interest is the juxtaposition of his notes chaotically spread throughout the room while his hanging corpse remains more or less complete and contained. I think it reasonable to consider that the archetype has such a history that it's ingrained in our psyches and, in the absence of feudalism, still holds significant value as a symbol. Although you ended up leaving the room, you still removed the one element of disorder in the scene thus restoring the "powerful" trump. Actually, your effort to control that image goes all the way back to you leaving to shower before he can be completely exposed. At a superficial level, you and the Russian represent the dueling forces of home and abroad seeking to contain and utilize that power. The Russian seeks to destabilize by destroying the icon, and you stabilize by restoring it. ... For the record, I'm still not psychoanalyzing anything. I'm merely exploring the explicit symbolism in the dream/nightmare. I wish i could like that post twice lol! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juice McKenzie Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlappyKincaid Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I had a dream that my nostrils closed up from the inside and I was watching it happen in the mirror, and didn't know what to do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortedreasoning Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 yeah this ones a doozy. have you been paying attention a bunch to the news lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 2 hours ago, SlappyKincaid said: I had a dream that my nostrils closed up from the inside and I was watching it happen in the mirror, and didn't know what to do about it. If your nose is stuffed up, then it suggests that you unable to freely and fully express yourself. idk maybe? its from dream dictionary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codename: Jackass Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 I'm disturbed but intrigued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 51 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said: yeah this ones a doozy. have you been paying attention a bunch to the news lately? i always pay attention to the news unless im so busy i have no time. i like current events. buuuuuuut less than usual honestly. ive been watching a lot of mystery science theater 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortedreasoning Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Poof said: i always pay attention to the news unless im so busy i have no time. i like current events. buuuuuuut less than usual honestly. ive been watching a lot of mystery science theater im just trying to make sense of it. why dream of trump? his stinking face is everywhere so maybe he was just in the dream for that reason but all the other stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 1 minute ago, Distortedreasoning said: im just trying to make sense of it. why dream of trump? his stinking face is everywhere so maybe he was just in the dream for that reason but all the other stuff? he reminds me of my ex. not like alil bit. a lot a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distortedreasoning Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 4 minutes ago, Poof said: he reminds me of my ex. not like alil bit. a lot a lot. ah ok. strong connection then. we need a dream interpreter to get their ass in here lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 55 minutes ago, Distortedreasoning said: ah ok. strong connection then. we need a dream interpreter to get their ass in here lol i do that sometimes amateurishly. my friend cari taught me all about it in highschool. this was a long dream so theres a lot of symbols to look up. im pretty bored right now mayb ill do it. ill start w/this symbol: President To see the president of your country in your dream symbolizes authority, power and control. Your own personal views and opinions of the president and their actions will also play strongly in the significance of this dream. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted April 18, 2018 Author Share Posted April 18, 2018 yea so i looked up all symbols i could think of, cut out irrelevant alternative meanings, and arranged them in order they appear in the dream. its pretty clear. tho i still like @scoobdog's cultural interpretation President To see the president of your country in your dream symbolizes authority, power and control. Your own personal views and opinions of the president and their actions will also play strongly in the significance of this dream. Night To have a dream that takes place at night represents some major setbacks and obstacles in achieving your goals. You are being faced with an issue that is not so clear cut. Perhaps, you should put the issues aside so you can clear your head and come back to it later. Alternatively, night may be synonymous with death, rebirth, reflection, and new beginnings. Hotel To see a hotel in your dream signifies a new state of mind or a shift in personal identity. You are undergoing some sort of transition and need to move away from your old habits and old way of thinking. You need to temporarily escape from your daily life. Alternatively, the dream may imply a loss in your personal identity. Marijuana To dream that you are using marijuana implies that you are trying to escape reality. Perhaps you are trying to numb some emotional or psychological pain. If someone else is using marijuana or trying to get your to use it, then it indicates a negative influence in your life. You are on the verge of losing control. Perhaps you feel that your identity and sense of self is being compromised or disrespected. The dream may also be a reflection of waking drug use. Alcohol To dream that you are consuming alcohol in excess signifies feelings of inadequacy, worries, regrets and fears of being discovered for who you really are. You are using alcohol as a way to escape or as an excuse for something you did. Underwear To dream that someone is in their underwear signifies an embarrassing and inexplicable situation. Alternatively, the dream means that you are seeing this person for who he or she really is. Shower To dream that you are taking a shower in clear, fresh water symbolizes spiritual or physical renewal and forgiveness. You are washing the burdens out of your life. Alternatively, the dream may be a metaphor that you are "showering" someone with gifts or love. Towel To see or use a towel in your dream suggests that you need to deal with your emotions in order to move forward in your life. You need to find some sort of a resolution. Alternatively, it represents completion, a fresh start and new transition. Groans To hear groans in your dream suggest that you need to act quickly or else others will take advantage of the situation. You need to effectively map out your action. Alternatively, the dream indicates that you or someone is in pain, either emotionally or physically. Goodbye To dream that someone is saying goodbye to you suggests that you are going on a journey of self-discovery. You are entering a new phase in your life. Killer To see a killer in your dream suggests that an essential aspect of your emotions have been cut off. You feel that you are losing your identity and your individuality. Alternatively, this dream may represent purification and the healing process. You are standing up for yourself and putting a dramatic end to something. Murder To dream that you witness a murder indicates deep-seated anger towards somebody. Consider how the victim represents aspects of yourself that you want to destroy or eliminate. Assassin To dream that you are a witness to an assassination indicates that you need to pay more attention to some small detail. Do not overlook the seemingly insignificant things in life. In particular, to dream that an important political figure is assassinated on your watch implies that you are lacking support in your waking life. You feel you are alone in your views and decisions. Death Alternatively, the dream indicates that whatever that person represents has no part in your own life anymore. Hanging To watch a hanging in your dream represents feelings of insecurity. The hanging may symbolize aspects of yourself that you want to eliminate. Fan To see a fan in your dream refers to the changes in your life. It may also signifies your need to calm down after a highly charged emotional situation or state. Bedroom To dream that you are in the bedroom signifies aspects of yourself that you keep private. It is also indicative of your sexual nature and intimate relations. Document To see or read a document in your dream represent some important information that is about to be made known to you. It symbolizes some discovery or realization. Paper To see a stack of papers in your dream denotes overwhelming responsibilities and stress that you are having to cope with. You are not effectively dealing with the issues at hand. Secret To dream that you or someone has a secret represents hidden power. It suggests that something is emerging from your subconscious. Folder To see a folder in your dream suggests that you need to sort out your feelings and re-organize some issues in your waking life, especially if you've experienced some trauma or turmoil recently. Consider the contents of the folder for additional clues. Leather To see or wear leather in your dream represents toughness and ruggedness. It may imply your thick-skinned nature. Or perhaps you are seeking protection from the elements. Alternatively, the dream refers to your instinctual and animalistic nature. It may also have sexual connotations. Gold The golden color reflects a spiritual reward, richness, refinement and enhancement of your surroundings. It also signifies your determination and unyielding nature. To see gold in your dream symbolizes wealth, riches, natural healing, illumination and/or spirituality. It is also a symbol of love, longevity and domestic bliss. Negatively, gold may represent greed, corruption and temptation. Packing To dream that you are packing signifies big changes ahead for you. You are putting past issues to rest or past relationships behind you. Alternatively, it represents the burdens that you carry. Luggage To see or carry luggage in your dream symbolizes the many desires, worries, responsibilities or needs that you are carrying with you and weighing you down. The size or weight of the luggage parallels the demands you are facing. You need to reduce your desires and problems in order to alleviate the pressure you are putting on yourself. Perhaps you feel that you are being held back by past emotions or issues. Alternatively, luggage symbolizes your identity and sense of security. Sidewalk To dream that you are walking on a sidewalk represents your steady progress and direction in life. You may be experiencing new walks of life. If the sidewalk is cracked, then it signifies minor and temporary setbacks that are keeping you from getting to your destination. Perhaps you need to alter your course and make some changes in your life. Morning To dream that it is morning suggests that fortune and pleasure are within near reach. It also denotes new beginnings, renewal, an awakening or starting over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobdog Posted April 18, 2018 Share Posted April 18, 2018 While Freud and Jung were largely debunked in their lifetimes as psychiatrists, much of their work identifying symbolic representations is still invaluable today. Prior to them, symbolism was rarely treated as its own language and dream interpretation was concurrently treated in superstitious and direct terms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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