Gyaos Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Just now, ben0119 said: So is Buu more dangerous now because he's a mindless monster with no restraint, or is he stronger too? Because why would Buu absorb people if it made him weaker? And obviously the previous Buu got stronger by absorption. In this script, it doesn't actually sound like Buu is stronger, but simply more dangerous and unpredictable. Honestly, Super Buu was not as dangerous as Kid Buu since he could actually be reasoned with. Kid Buu has no leash, therefore nothing is stopping him from going full "Planet Buster" like he just did with Earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Roymustang1990 said: Man, this series is ovver yeah, all that's left now is Goku telling old Kai he'll let him fuck Vegeta's wife, and Vegeta giving himself a reason I suck speech and saying he'll never surpass Goku 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Phh, Kyles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Boy they really went all out with the fate of characters AND the Earth in this arc! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyaos Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Mr. Satan is losing his sanity. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meilag32 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 Come on, Mr. Satan, I think the multitude of planets in the sky would seem to lean towards a different planet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Just now, Gyaos said: Mr. Satan is losing his sanity. whatever keeps him calm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roymustang1990 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Just now, mochi said: yeah, all that's left now is Hide contents Goku telling old Kai he'll let him fuck Vegeta's wife, and Vegeta giving himself a reason I suck speech and saying he'll never surpass Goku yeah that is pretty sad for vegeta fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Mr. Satan's finally gone cuckoo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Just now, Roymustang1990 said: yeah that is pretty sad for vegeta fans especially since Super proves him right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyaos Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Vegeta has a good reason to be pissed off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meilag32 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, ben0119 said: So is Buu more dangerous now because he's a mindless monster with no restraint, or is he stronger too? Because why would Buu absorb people if it made him weaker? And obviously the previous Buu got stronger by absorption. In this script, it doesn't actually sound like Buu is stronger, but simply more dangerous and unpredictable. Kid Buu is his strongest form. Absorbing people seemed to make him weaker. Or maybe absorbing Kais did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Dammit Mr. Satan lol 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meilag32 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) Yep. Time for a series of convoluted wishes involving both Shenron and Puronga, just like they did during the Frieza Saga. Edited April 8, 2018 by Meilag32 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyaos Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Old Kai sets up an indirect thread to GT. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Wishes. Of course the only way to solve all this is wishes. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 1 minute ago, Gyaos said: Vegeta has a good reason to be pissed off. he does, unfortunately starting with the end of this arc he becomes the new Yamcha and isn't allowed to do anything cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Here we go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meilag32 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 Goku prostituting Bulma. Elder Kai becoming more Cosby by the second. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roymustang1990 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Man,most of the character cast is dead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) This entire FRANCHISE has a history of making bribes full of trivial stuff to prevent catastrophic disasters. Edited April 8, 2018 by elfie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roymustang1990 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Planet killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Goku: if you let us use the balls I'll let you fuck Vegeta's wife! viewers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 That's right even the Earth was destroyed. You can see how this was truly meant to be the end of the series. Where do you go from there? Goku saved Dende so the Dragon Balls could still be used? But the Dragon Balls just got destroyed along with the Earth? At least Piccolo and the boys didn't feel anything. In think that flashback was longer in the old show, and Bibidi's voice wasn't the same as Babidi. Liked the Kais' designs. They just look like elves to me. LOL HERCULE SAID IT. Why haven't they dealt with Buu? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gyaos Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Also canon: "Heaven" is a planet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meilag32 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 It's Other World. Or Heaven or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Yeah not only was that out of left field but it was WAAAY out of character for Goku! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 it's ironic that this series version of Heaven is Basically Valhalla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roymustang1990 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Kidbuu gonna blow up hell and heaven now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Dammit guys ya broke the Washington Monument! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meilag32 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 Buu's about to destroy Heaven. Take that, Christians! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMouse Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Rock those FLCL trailers baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Just now, elfie said: Dammit guys ya broke the Washington Monument! ...........wait why was the washington Monument in heaven? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 FLCL: I was in my early art and design college years. This along with MIND GAME were the exact things i NEEDED to see at that point in my life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 You have no shame and are seriously asking for it, Goku, offering up Bulma like that. Also not really sure how Elder Kai could stop them anyway. Shouldn't the Kais have that ability too and not just Kibito? Now Buu is destroying planets left and right! Ah hell Buu has already made it to Other World! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meilag32 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 Just now, mochi said: ...........wait why was the washington Monument in heaven? 'Cause it's 'Murica. You can like it or you can get out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, mochi said: it's ironic that this series version of Heaven is Basically Valhalla I think you mean "fitting." But yeah never really thought about that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The1gairon Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Just now, Meilag32 said: 'Cause it's 'Murica. You can like it or you can get out. Pretty much the attitude of the American citizens with the power to run the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, Meilag32 said: Kid Buu is his strongest form. Absorbing people seemed to make him weaker. Or maybe absorbing Kais did. That's what I thought. It also obviously changed his personality as well. But it wasn't really explicitly stated that it weakened him, power-wise. Not in this version anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meilag32 Posted April 8, 2018 Author Share Posted April 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, ben0119 said: That's what I thought. It also obviously changed his personality as well. But it wasn't really explicitly stated that it weakened him, power-wise. Not in this version anyway. For sure absorbing Grand Supreme Kai unfocused his attention. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 16 minutes ago, Meilag32 said: Kid Buu is his strongest form. Absorbing people seemed to make him weaker. Or maybe absorbing Kais did. Absorbing nice people makes him less evil it's why Absorbing Gohan and Piccolo made him more coherent and Sportsmanly he takes on aspects of the personalities of all the people he absorbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 3 hours ago, Roymustang1990 said: Massive plot development incoming. the best thing that to ever happen in the entire buu saga beside the rematch of go k u vs vegeta,gok u powering to ssj3 for the first time,and vegetto That's a lot of besides. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 54 minutes ago, mochi said: is she the only canonical Female Kai we've seen? One of King Kai's counterparts was female. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, Gyaos said: Honestly, Super Buu was not as dangerous as Kid Buu since he could actually be reasoned with. Kid Buu has no leash, therefore nothing is stopping him from going full "Planet Buster" like he just did with Earth. That's what I mean. It seems like Kid Buu is more dangerous, not necessarily more powerful, though I had thought it was both originally. It was explained differently in this Kai version, which is supposed to be a more accurate script to the Japanese version of the anime, and the manga. Edited April 8, 2018 by ben0119 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 5 hours ago, Gyaos said: Old Kai sets up an indirect thread to GT. Hm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I think the original messed up and said Kid Buu was the most powerful, which was completely wrong. Kid Buu is on par with SS3 Goku. Buutenks was so powerful that SS3 Goku and Mystic Gohan didn't even try to fight him together. Buuhan was even stronger than that. But in addition to being the most evil and dangerous, Kid Buu seems to possess infinite regeneration. He doesn't tire or suffer energy loss no matter how many times he's blown apart, unlike other forms. He also can regenerate instantly, without any delay or effort. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Hey I think you're right! That makes a lot of sense. Explains how SS3 Goku could at least hold him off? And yeah Kid Buu is definitely more dangerous in other ways. I think the actual numbers in that video are bullshit though. I think that old power level list that had Super Saiyan 4 in the billions or whatever turned out to be nonsense too. But this video is even more over the top than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Well they're not canon or anything, because Toriyama lost interest in giving power levels with second form Frieza who was rated at a power level of 1 million. Things kinda uhhhh skyrocketed from there because every character Toriyama introduced was 10x more powerful than the last. When you do that, things escalate quickly. So the numbers are insane but totally reasonable by DBZ standards. You don't even wanna see the numbers for Super. Also worth noting, Gotenks SS3 is almost 4x as strong as Goku SS3. This is in line with something Toriyama once said about fusion forms being a full step ahead of their non fused counterparts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) I don't recall him or the series ever saying that each new character was 10x stronger than the last. Pretty sure that 1 million thing was filler? Power levels didn't exist before Raditz showed up either, and I think before and after stated power levels, just showing power through exposition, abilities, feats, battles in contrasting characters etc was good enough. It gave you a good sense of things. I don't know, that old list that was floating around the Internet in the early 2000s that topped out with Super Saiyan 4 in the early billions seemed pretty believeable in terms of all the characters with what was shown onscreen. Even then I think things might have been too high, in retrospect. Edit - Here it is. http://www.oocities.org/gohan2000_nz/powerlevelsmain.html This is what we had back in the day that I remember. Some of the other lists I found have 17 and 18's power levels different, which is STUPID. They're twins! Looks like a source was dbzgtlegacy, which sadly is no longer around. Found no sign of the GT levels so far either. I hope I still have that list saved or printed out somewhere. Anyway, these seem much more reasonable, but again, even these could be too high. And watching the rest of that video not only are numbers ridiculous but characters' in strength in relation to each other is nonsensical. Supreme Kai stronger than Dabura or Goten and Trunks? Lolno. There's no way Videl, Spopavitch, and the other guy were THAT weak either. And the increases from removing weights is ridiculous. Really, that video is just retarded, and I'm not the only one that thinks so, given some of the comments. Well yes, fusion forms being that much more powerful makes sense. Edited April 8, 2018 by ben0119 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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