ben0119 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Goku - Master Roshi was a great teacher and mentor, but I think imma play the Obama Racist Grandma card here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokeNirvash Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 Vegeta: "To be honest, I never liked the old geezer to begin with." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 (edited) it's Japan, Japan still encourages Roshi-like behavior they only draw the line if you go full Spacey Edited December 9, 2017 by mochi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meilag32 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 The Obama Racist Grandma card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 15 minutes ago, mochi said: it's Japan, Japan still encourages Roshi-like behavior they only draw the line if you go full Spacey Uh, no. It's not encouraged. I'm sure people get away with it easier, or did. There's actually an app you can download to tell people not to molest you on trains, because apparently some women aren't assertive enough to do so themselves. Or maybe it's the attention the app draws. But a lot of Japanese guys these days are total pussies. Big part of why the birthrate is down. There's a thing called kabedon that's become all the rage in shojo manga. https://thedebrief.co.uk/news/real-life/kabedon-new-japanese-mating-ritual-need-know/ In the words of the female mangaka National Geographic interviewed on Explorer, it's a popular fantasy scenario because men don't pursue women enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 8 minutes ago, ben0119 said: Uh, no. It's not encouraged. I'm sure people get away with it easier, or did. There's actually an app you can download to tell people not to molest you on trains, because apparently some women aren't assertive enough to do so themselves. Or maybe it's the attention the app draws. But a lot of Japanese guys these days are total pussies. Big part of why the birthrate is down. There's a thing called kabedon that's become all the rage in shojo manga. https://thedebrief.co.uk/news/real-life/kabedon-new-japanese-mating-ritual-need-know/ In the words of the female mangaka National Geographic interviewed on Explorer, it's a popular fantasy scenario because men don't pursue women enough. the birth rate in Japan is down for multiple reasons actually, including but not limited to 1. Japanese apartments in the big city are too fucking tiny and don't have their own bathing facilities so couples can't even have sex half the time 2. statistically there's a HUGE amount of closeted gay people in Japan so half the marriages in japan are just for beard purposes and they aren't actually fucking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 16 minutes ago, Meilag32 said: The Obama Racist Grandma card? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 1 minute ago, mochi said: the birth rate in Japan is down for multiple reasons actually, including but not limited to 1. Japanese apartments in the big city are too fucking tiny and don't have their own bathing facilities so couples can't even have sex half the time 2. statistically there's a HUGE amount of closeted gay people in Japan so half the marriages in japan are just for beard purposes and they aren't actually fucking Japanese guys being pussies is definitely part of it though. No bathrooms in the apartment? What? Yeah not good. I'm sure that's common but I highly doubt it's as high as half the marriages. Also if they were really wanting to keep up appearances they'd have kids too. That's gone in the US people living double lives or even just being gay in a hetero marriage with no secret gay life on the side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 2 minutes ago, ben0119 said: Japanese guys being pussies is definitely part of it though. No bathrooms in the apartment? What? Yeah not good. I'm sure that's common but I highly doubt it's as high as half the marriages. Also if they were really wanting to keep up appearances they'd have kids too. That's gone in the US people living double lives or even just being gay in a hetero marriage with no secret gay life on the side. they have services in Japan where you can hire actors to pretend to be your wife and kids so your family won't know you're gay which.....implies a pretty widespread problem since I don't think they had PAY services to hire a fake family at any point in America Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, mochi said: they have services in Japan where you can hire actors to pretend to be your wife and kids so your family won't know you're gay which.....implies a pretty widespread problem since I don't think they had PAY services to hire a fake family at any point in America Is that legit? God damn! Yeah that's pretty bad! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted December 9, 2017 Share Posted December 9, 2017 I think it's possible that going forward, Dragon Ball Super MIGHT be affected by #MeToo and Roshi/Elder Kai suddenly lose their "pervy" moments, but we won't see that change in America until mid-2019! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 ZNN - Master Roshi will hereby be confined to house arrest on his island, under the watchful eye of Dende! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted December 9, 2017 Author Share Posted December 9, 2017 7 hours ago, OwlChemist81 said: I think it's possible that going forward, Dragon Ball Super MIGHT be affected by #MeToo and Roshi/Elder Kai suddenly lose their "pervy" moments, but we won't see that change in America until mid-2019! I don't know about that, but we'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mochi Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 On 12/9/2017 at 6:34 PM, ben0119 said: I don't know about that, but we'll see. to be painfully honest the fact that the current arc has had more female warriors than ANY arc in dragonball's history is already kind of a "metoo" effect but yeah.....assuming Japan actually cares about the sales of this series in north America Roshi's perversion probably will be toned down soon (I recall he sexually harasses one of the female warriors in the current arc and her reaction is considerably more disgusted than any of the women he's molested in the past so I think Toyotaro at least is self aware of how....unsavory Roshi's behavior is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mochi Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 (edited) On 12/22/2017 at 6:48 PM, Daos said: it's worth noting that in the current arc a lot of the male Z-fighters have been knocked out of the tournament but 18 is still in it Edited December 23, 2017 by mochi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandstone Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Let's hope not. Master Roshis character is a very honest one, and is pretty much cheaper the archetype of the pervy old man character. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Old Kai is also a huge perv 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pail Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 Quit injecting politics into my power-fantasy children's cartoon. I just wanna see Goku level up, say something about protecting your loved ones, fire off a Kamehameha and beat the bad guy. FFS 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainStarwind Posted December 23, 2017 Share Posted December 23, 2017 I don't think that Roshi's character is too much of a problem right now. See, it would be one thing if he was groping women and was still seen as doing something okay, or being in the right. That really isn't the case. It's pretty obvious that whenever he goes for a grope that he's just a dirty old man, and that when he fails, gets caught, and gets beat up, that he's deserving of it. The show isn't really accepting of his nature, just playing it for laughs. Trying to tone down his character completely would be a bit of an overreaction, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted December 23, 2017 Author Share Posted December 23, 2017 Thread was a joke thread obviously but yeah Roshi always gets his comeuppance for his behavior. Mochi mark spoilers please, jeez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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