Mix Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 [move] ::spin:: HOLD ON TO YOUR BUTTS ::spin::[/move] Quote
Jman Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 This is gonna be a good one. GGG is a slight betting favorite coming in. Quote
StarPanda Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 Hopefully Ill be back from work by the time the main event starts, it should be good Quote
Zenigundam Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 I'll go GGG by late KO. Canelo is featherfisted and a short middleweight at around 5'7". This smells fishy though because boxing is trying to make Canelo into its star, and GGG will just be seen as an Eastern European throwaway fighter even though he's truly special. In other words, the powers at the top don't care if GGG falls to 37-1, but they'll sure as hell care if Canelo gets dominated because it'll invalidate Golden Boy Promotions and make the most overrated fighter ever, Oscar De La Hoya, look like he was just a scam as a fighter. So either Triple floors/stops him or Canelo gets a BS decision imo. Quote
Zenigundam Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 GGG was originally a 2 to 7 favorite when this fight was being discussed in early 2016, so it goes to show how badly his perception as a fighter has been hurt by the Brooks and Jacobs fights. I really don't want GGG to lose because I want him to unify, bust Hopkin's defense record, and potentially have the gnads to fight somebody who is planning to move up to HW (Ward), but tonight might ruin everything if Canelo is, in fact, an HBO cash cow with full body armor protection from the ref and judges. Quote
scope Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 You seem to have this opinion that the physically stronger fighter or more natural puncher will always win, but we saw that didn't happen with Ward vs Kovalev. I think this one could go either way, both fighters excel in different ways. Footwork the edge goes to Golovkin but upper body movement and punching from angles goes to Canelo. Punching power and straights go to Golvkin, but body work and faster hands goes to Canelo..... Think this one'e gonna be a long night for both guys...could see a KO but probably not an early one. Quote
Zenigundam Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 Well I had Ward winning the rematch and nobody ever mistook Kovalev for an all-time light heavyweight, whereas GGG is undeniably a Top 5 all-time middleweight (the best ever in my opinion). I agree though, I see this fight lasting 10+ rounds for sure. Canelo's stocky and has a chin, and he's not the type of boxer who will put himself in a ton of risky positions, so even if GGG hits him flush, Canelo might take a knee if his strong neck doesn't absorb the punching power like he should be able to. GGG's got to chip away at him and take him out late. Quote
scope Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 You'd put him over Roy Jones?....idk about that man, I agree that GGG is pretty great at what he does but it's kinda difficult for me to place him, not his fault it's mostly because this isn't the greatest era for Middleweights and because no one wanted to fight him up until the past few years. Quote
Zenigundam Posted September 16, 2017 Posted September 16, 2017 You'd put him over Roy Jones?....idk about that man, I agree that GGG is pretty great at what he does but it's kinda difficult for me to place him, not his fault it's mostly because this isn't the greatest era for Middleweights and because no one wanted to fight him up until the past few years. Ah true. Roy Jones was Danny Jacobs's size, but was a way better athlete with better hands and the rare gift to be able to punch with power and speed from unexpected angles, so I could see him using the athleticism and speed to dismantle a prime GGG, but I could also see GGG hurting him because of his poor fundamentals and timing him up with power punches, but you have to give the edge to RJJ if they had fought ten times prime for prime. There's really nowhere to go for GGG to but up to light heavyweight if he wins this fight seeing as he'll probably demolish Cotto and Saunders, but it seems like he really doesn't want to move up and would prefer to toy with the same old faces for what's left of his career. Quote
Mix Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 "GGG is the best ever in my opinion" "Roy Jones jr. has poor fundamentals" losing more credibility by the second, ol' buddy, ol' pal Quote
scope Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Ah true. Roy Jones was Danny Jacobs's size, but was a way better athlete with better hands and the rare gift to be able to punch with power and speed from unexpected angles, so I could see him using the athleticism and speed to dismantle a prime GGG, but I could also see GGG hurting him because of his poor fundamentals and timing him up with power punches, but you have to give the edge to RJJ if they had fought ten times prime for prime. There's really nowhere to go for GGG to but up to light heavyweight if he wins this fight seeing as he'll probably demolish Cotto and Saunders, but it seems like he really doesn't want to move up and would prefer to toy with the same old faces for what's left of his career. I really don't think Saunders wants to go anywhere near a ring with Golovkin in it Cotto probably would but shouldn't Quote
Jman Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 I love GGG, but his last fight showed he can get put in problematic situations if his power doesn't do the job. Anyone who's primary strategy is hard punching can be put in a bad spot if the KO doesn't materialize. Quote
Zenigundam Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Garbage undercards, all of these guys suck and couldn't KO a fly. GGG by straight up knockout to electrify the arena Quote
scope Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Best fight I've seen since the first Ward v Kovalev....thought GGG won by two rounds but at least we'll be getting another. Quote
Zenigundam Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Of course GGG got fleeced. Check Twitter and it tells the story, also the HBO commentators are being paid off to pretend the draw was legitimate. GGG was crappy and still won by 4-5 rounds hunting down that scared coward. Quote
StarPanda Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Knowing boxing and big fights I was really worried about the result of it went 12 so a draw dint surprise me Triple gg took that fight they were both hitting but triple g landed more and was more aggressive Lol at that judge who had it at 118-110 Quote
StarPanda Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Triple gg should have gone to the body he would have won of he did, I'm worried about a rematch age is triple gg enemy Canelo is young Quote
scope Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Lol at that judge who had it at 118-110 Yeah that's an outrageous score but the other two judges scored it fairly I think. I still thought GGG won but Canelo did some nice things, he was never really hurt by GGG because he was turning his head at the last moment with his right cross, can't teach that. Quote
scope Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Triple gg should have gone to the body he would have won of he did Was thinking the same thing because his jabs and crosses just weren't landing cleanly Quote
Mix Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 credit to Zeni, he called it... Every time boxing screws someone over with naked, in your face corruption, I never see it coming... People just keep buying tickets and pay per views....placing bets.....for what GGG won, by any standard of judging, a minimum 7 rounds....the other rounds you can fudge how you like....118-110 for Canelo...that's unreal :-\ Quote
Mix Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 Best fight I've seen since the first Ward v Kovalev....thought GGG won by two rounds but at least we'll be getting another. and it better be immediate...take the year off, return to camp at the beginning of 2018, we'll see you m'fers in march.... Quote
Mix Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 Of course GGG got fleeced. Check Twitter and it tells the story, also the HBO commentators are being paid off to pretend the draw was legitimate. GGG was crappy and still won by 4-5 rounds hunting down that scared coward. i'm not checking twitter...toss us some links.... Quote
Mix Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 Triple gg should have gone to the body he would have won of he did, I'm worried about a rematch age is triple gg enemy Canelo is young in the next 6 months? I've heard of fighters getting old over night, but damn... Quote
StarPanda Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Yeah triple ggg will get old dude I've seen it Quote
StarPanda Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Was thinking the same thing because his jabs and crosses just weren't landing cleanly Exactly Quote
Mix Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 Yeah triple ggg will get old dude I've seen it Give me some examples... Quote
StarPanda Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Give me some examples... I was kidding, I should have explained better I was just thinking if the rematch was gonna take longer know what I'm saying Quote
scope Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 Yeah triple ggg will get old dude I've seen it He's getting old already....dude is 35, it's impressive he's able to control rounds at this level still. Quote
scope Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 credit to Zeni, he called it... Every time boxing screws someone over with naked, in your face corruption, I never see it coming... It's pretty bad this year, Ward's win so questionable....Pacquiao robbery was one of the worst I've ever seen. Boxing needs to realize all this shit is out in the open these days, but you're right they don't care as long as they make money. But let's face it, it could've been worse, he could have lost....and on Mexican Independence Day is Vegas I was half expecting this. I'm just going to take it at face value, it was a very very entertaining fight, one of the best in recent memory and its a shame its going to be remembered for some corrupt shitty judge that may have well wrote her score card before the fighters entered the ring. Quote
Mix Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 I was kidding, I should have explained better I was just thinking if the rematch was gonna take longer know what I'm saying oh yeah, i'm with you there...man's 35, clock is ticking....but i'm sure they'll want to strike while the iron is hot on this thing....there's money to be made after all >.> Quote
scope Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 i'm not checking twitter...toss us some links.... Pacquiao tweeted this: Did they bring these judges over from Australia? ? #CaneloGGG Quote
Mix Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 It's pretty bad this year, Ward's win so questionable....Pacquiao robbery was one of the worst I've ever seen. Boxing needs to realize all this shit is out in the open these days, but you're right they don't care as long as they make money. But let's face it, it could've been worse, he could have lost....and on Mexican Independence Day is Vegas I was half expecting this. I'm just going to take it at face value, it was a very very entertaining fight, one of the best in recent memory and its a shame its going to be remembered for some corrupt shitty judge that may have well wrote her score card before the fighters entered the ring. you're right...it was a good fight...i'm looking forward to the rematch.... this stuff bothers me 'cause i've been in the same situation and it makes you feel like shit....it's worse than losing... Quote
Mix Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 Pacquiao tweeted this: Did they bring these judges over from Australia? ? #CaneloGGG man, Pacquiao is just so god damn like-able....it's really to bad about the homophobic rants '>.> Quote
scope Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 man, Pacquiao is just so god damn like-able....it's really to bad about the homophobic rants '>.> Yeah .....I think that rant was just because he's too religious for his own good lol Quote
scope Posted September 17, 2017 Posted September 17, 2017 you're right...it was a good fight...i'm looking forward to the rematch.... this stuff bothers me 'cause i've been in the same situation and it makes you feel like shit....it's worse than losing... I can imagine it does, never played a sport that didn't keep concrete score so at least when I lost I lost legitimately. But even as a fan it's pretty frustrating, way too much blood, sweat and tears fighters put in to not even get a fair shake. Quote
Mix Posted September 17, 2017 Author Posted September 17, 2017 I can imagine it does, never played a sport that didn't keep concrete score so at least when I lost I lost legitimately. But even as a fan it's pretty frustrating, way too much blood, sweat and tears fighters put in to not even get a fair shake. at least on this level they walk away with a couple million to balm their wounds Quote
Distortedreasoning Posted September 18, 2017 Posted September 18, 2017 great fight, i agree that judge that scored it 118-110 for canelo was clearly on drugs. never seen a ggg fight but was quite impressed at what i saw from him. Quote
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