I mean, I would be embarrassed if I had at all mentioned how they were hired even once....When my aunt and uncle were hired I probably wasn't even born, but they were at the same college for as long as I remember.....They only moved forward in their careers, and are doing pretty damned well in their early retirement. I said steady employment and salaries and they have that....It's YOUR holier than thou ass that takes an argument being had with someone else and makes it you business to segment it into what you want and thinks people supposed to fold because you ban on emotion.