That's kind of where I was going with the woman remark, and no where else idk..I am still aware that since it's been pretty much acceptable for males to do the shit on some level for generations, (a societal norm) and the LGBT community has only in more recent times felt simular freedoms that it's likely worse for women regardless of sexuality. I would be one pissed off lady.. if I was one, and had to put up with the shit. It's just I feel it's tacky regardless.. so I rarely go down the whole gender path.