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I saw it, that isn't the problem and that is the bullshit you're trying to sell....I see you digging up that goalposts but it's just dumb that you think it'll work on me, or anyone for that matter. Not sure why you think acting coy hides your stupidity
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Put the key in the ignition and turn it
André Toulon replied to smiradenius's topic in General Discussion
🤦🏿♂️ istfg -
No....you did not. You are trying to control the narrative with your own false and very stupid words. Not sure who this actually works on that you keep trying it, but here....it just makes you look stupid, and adamantly so.
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Put the key in the ignition and turn it
André Toulon replied to smiradenius's topic in General Discussion
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No and this is the doubling down I was talking about. In fact it's contradictory to your original argument from years ago, but do go on.
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You mean like this one....that YOU drew. The one with spidey sense indicating power which doesn't represent power in any electrical schematic🤣 I'm going to take that last part out in case I accidentally teach you something. STFU you goddammed chud. A bigger waste of space there is not. Packard, failing hard since 1954.
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Ok....I'm not sure what to do with the MIA chick thing. I know what I would do of it were any number of other people, but I'm not really inclined to lay into you like I would any average schmo, but focusing on the AI usage, do you have any semi-finalized work where you've used it as you've intended. I'm going to assume no, but I also assumed you've at least payed with it just to see if what you want to do is possible. I would like to see it. You could always pm me on FB of you didn't want to share here...for reasons. But what I'm hearing is you're writing stories or something of the sort and want to give it visual representation without involving other people who may take advantage of you, or just never actually take the project seriously and leave it unfinished. If that's the case, I understand why you would like to lean on AI to fill in the gaps where you lack....But I guess I can't in good faith just say it's ok due to my limited knowledge on how AI truly learns and operates. Like, we are led to believe it learns and evolves as it's given more information, and if that's the case, I can see where after a while, AI isn't "stealing" but creating its own style based on what it's learned. Like for an example...I used to draw avidly, it was one of my favorite pastimes, especially before the Internet turned my brain into mush, but starting out, I didn't have a style all my own. My entire notebook was filled with character I created by imitating Jim Davis. Garfield was my favorite Comic strip and all of my older drawings were basically templates of shit from Garfield with my own personal style implemented. I imitated Matt Groening, whoever illustrated the old NES Mario style, and many others. In school I borrowed the styles of different friends who shared our art with each other because like the machine, I was learning. The older I got, the less it was obvious copies and I dare say, my very own style of drawing....I think too many people refuse to give AI that same credit. If I draw something right now, I don't think anyone could just pinpoint where I "stole" it from because it's now an amalgamation of 40+ years of experience work into what is now my personal style. If I did work on someone's project, I'm not going to credit Jim Davis, Matt Groening, and my school friends in my work... that's absurd. Back when the shit first came out and you could see it adding squiggles to the bottom of a drawing because it didn't know that was an artist's signature and thought it needed to do that in order to sate it's master, I get the ire but 5 years down the line, will that any of that matter when it knows better and has its own distinct preference of what it creates. Now the end game is, does the human deserve to profit off something they still didn't actually do despite the AI having its own brand...and to me, it's still no....but I'm not the one that makes the rules and unless you took the road less traveled and created with your own blood sweat and tears, I can't in good faith call anyone who does that an artist or think that I should pay more than maybe a small convenience fee for their effort....so, do with that what you will.
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🤔 one would have to wonder why a forgiveness card would ever exist. Why would I spend time, money or effort to respond politely to an infraction upon me. Someone steals from me, feels bad about it, pays me back and my reaction is to send them a card to let them know it's absolutely fine? Sure bro, do that shit again...I'm a complete dumbass and have zero self esteem. I'll bet as he was cooking this up, he thought "this is great and quite topical.... I'll bet no one else ever thinks of things like this" and... technically he would be correct.... because even the dumbest people never reach the tier of blithering idiot.
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Eh, I'm baked enough now so I just want to leave with this. It will be full of hypocrisy, but IDC now because I'm on that platinum clad unicorn of dank. I hear the arguments here both for and against the use of AI...I think they all have validity, but my only real problem with the shit is Hollywood, game companies, animation studios etc using it for profit while basically sending their pet bot out to piece together a Frankenstein's monster quality product and people actually buying it. Idk whether to be mad at the "creators" or the idiot public that will inevitably pay for it. It's frustrating. My other problem with it is basically what Benji said...old farts saturating FB with their shitty AI creations. I fucking hate it, and Packfuck is doing the shit ad nauseam here...but it's mostly harmless because who's ever going to see that shit. No one is coming to my friend Jane Doe's FB page and see her 400th pic of thicc Minnie Mouse in a Bentley with $8 bills flying out of the trunk and think "we need more of this" so it's wtfever on that shit. Raku, for better or for worse is attempting to do the same as large companies because (I could be wrong here) he does intend to possibly use it to create something that he ultimately may try to make a dollar off of. Yes, it's exactly the same in that respect, but it seems pretty benign considering I kinda doubt he'll have the audience Blizzard or Pixar has. No, that doesn't make it any better but I can't really make an adamant decision without seeing his work or just how integral it is to his finished product.... which we may never know just from the scrutiny he's getting for even suggesting it. To me, it's all just inevitable change to reach the goals of shit we've wished exited years ago. Ever say I wish I could show other people the dream I just had? Well now you pretty much can, but it's at the cost of people with actual talent who created and shared something that now some robot can manipulate it into something unrecognizable just to satisfy the whims of any jackass with an internet connection and $20. Personally, I don't think the shit should have been rolled out to the public without some way for actual artist to protect their work and demand compensation when it used without permission but no one did that....I have no idea how you can rectify this other than people with talent just stop creating, but who TF does that help. It completely fucks them because the consuming masses are fucking idiots who would pay to watch a 700 lb woman eat an entire 24 piece chicken dinner in one sitting. The internet was a mistake, humanity was a mistake. I wait patiently for the day that mother nature is finally just sick of our shit and cuts the oxygen....but before that, I'm sure we'll just nuke each other. TL;DR: just tripe, you didn't miss much
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What Are You Thinking About Right Now?
André Toulon replied to DragonSinger's topic in General Discussion
I came woefully disappointed in the answers to what is the cookie part of a Twix. Everyone says it's short read, but I've never had a shortbread cookie that taste like the Twix cookie. I used to eat the chocolate and caramel and save the cookies for later...I guess you could say the residual chocolate makes it taste differently, but I'm still not satisfied with that answer. I just want the cookies dammit🤬 -
What Are You Thinking About Right Now?
André Toulon replied to DragonSinger's topic in General Discussion
Wivestale but are you eating right before you go to sleep. I don't think the two are scientifically related, but I find if I eat and go directly to sleep, I usually have an unsettling dream and wake up an hour later. Not a nightmare all the time but sometimes it's just me doing some shit I just can't do like dial a phone or write something down and it not keep changing to gibberish, pissing me off -
What did you have for dinner?
André Toulon replied to The_annoying_one's topic in General Discussion
SB but I'm hankering for something else now...not sure what -
I'll bet he will type AI artist on his Walmart application. No, Prompt engineer
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Wow, I step away for an hour and he drops 5 more failures like Wayne drops mixtapes. I guess it's just me and him here, he never has any clues as to just how many people are watching him be unapologetically dumb. Even at some point I could argue all day with nabs but sometimes say "well, he does have a point" but I don't think Packard has ever been right about anything...not once has dude made a single point. He just frantically creates a dozen non-sequiturs, never fulfils his arguments and then shifts the goalposts. Tantrums have never been more hilarious.
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Lol, he's just so adamant in being stupid. He doesn't remember he drew it himself in a napkin or some shit...IDK what he's trying to prove now but I'm sure it's going to be part of a huge failure
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That time he suggested we bring back gas chambers...the actual comment got deleted and I'm almost sure he caught a ban
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I'm so glad I decided to log in instead of playing WoWR
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And still not quick enough with that edit. Already saw you fail
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Lol and now an impromptu double post😆 Fucking gold
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Holy shit, that time he posted an electric schematic trying to own me, a former EET major but he drew open circuits with a lightbulb at the far end with spidey sense over it to indicate power, but it would never get power because the battery was behind 2 open circuits ...one that had no business even being there. Or that giant trench coat he got from salvation army that could fit the blob but he, a scrawny man of about 5'5 was going to wear it because it was a quality find. This dude is just a perpetual failure machine.
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JFC, I've somehow never seen this. Wtf is even happening. Ooh, let's talk about ridiculous shit he's posted. Like that time he posted himself in a cat mask singing take me out to the ball game. Or thanksgiving at his mom's house with indiscernible food, and grey meatballs that looked like it was made of ground cow hearts. Oh shit, the pic of him with a gun that he's holding like a 4 year old with his first pop cork gun. Remember when he posted a baggage claim ticket as proof that he went on a trip. I totally wish I wanted to put in the effort of the shopped photo of him at a Nazi furry party but I might get banned for reposting that. That was back when it was ok to steal images.