Distortedreasoning

you are forgetting the coupe, which as much as you want to ignore or downplay, already makes ukraine act in the interest of the west. the "democratically" elected zelensky, ran on a platform for peace and neutrality with russia. he won on that platform, but did everything he could to provoke russia. everything from accepting funding from nato to ignoring the minsk agreement, to talking about joining nato. thats what they call a puppet government, one not acting on its own interest. the reason for why i say ukraine should surrender is because they are being killed not for their freedom, but for being used as proxies in a war between nato and russia. despite what everyone here thinks, ukraine is losing big and they got no hope in defeating russia. nato has no problem in fighting this war to the last ukranian. giving them weapons is whats gonna keep the killing going.

you dont even gotta support any of these countries. im trying to open up the conversation to go further than "dictator bad". you cannot get the full scope without talking about it. regardless of how you feel about "dictatorships", we play a role in all of of those conflicts.

the world is becoming ever more connected than in any time in history. industry, culture, and the social, are all becoming more familiar. you know how deep someone like china is integrated into the world economy? or even russia? im not saying we withdraw our troops and all the world stops going to war. but just take the recent example in the middle east. china gets involved, and they land a peace deal between saudi arabia and iran. and now its looking like more and more that tensions are coming down in the region. even looking like there could be peace talks in the making with syria which has been getting plundered by us/nato imperialist. does this mean there will be an automatic influx of money that will be going into public funding? nope. this will still need to be fought for. but it will be more difficult for them to not spend it on the public.

the brittany griner situation was unfortunate. i truly believe any other time, they would have not done anything to her. but you got to take into consideration she was legally detained, and put into prisoned for 6 months so her views are gonna be reflected on that. plus she was still being held *what for?* by some intelligence agency for something like a few weeks upon her return. im glad they were able to put enough pressure on biden to do the right thing. -as to your point about the russian draft, i will not say i 100% for sure know that any civilians werent drafted. but from what i seen, it doesnt look like they did. they got prison conscripts, their standing army, and tapped into the huge supply of reservist they have. they where able to get the numbers they needed for the different stages of their operation. on the other hand, i have seen more videos of ukrainian civilians, including children and elders, getting forcefully abducted into the army. i mean all we got are some social media videos, with no investigation. so not sure what else you go by aside from state sources? -north korea, no i would not trade my home/apartment to live in dprk. the point i was trying to make with north korea is that despite being a poor country, they still aim to, and house most people, they are able to give them some type of mobility, and they are not starving. the country is still poor as shit from the harsh sanctions imposed on them. they live in a condition where they have enough guns pointed at them to annihilate them off the map. yes the government is more leaning towards the authoritarian scale, people have less "freedoms" than we do here. i have never denied that. but to analyze the situation as just "kim is crazy" as a gotcha point seems lazy at best. - i know the russian situation is not at the top list of concerns for most of us here in the country. we living in the times of fall of the empire and things are only getting worse and will get worse. people just personally got enough on their plate i get it. lives are in danger constantly. food and shelter are becoming much harder to provide. and thats not even mentioning other shit like more freedoms being taken away like in florida or child labor making a come back in many states. with all that said, thank you for the honest engagement.

you got that good blood!

yeah they might be seen as a nuisance here but in other parts of the globe, these things kill something in the thousands, or possibly millions. thats gotta be an interesting story.

that sucks. they are seasonal here. its too much rain. but when it gets sunny, like their army replenishes.

lucky!!!

they must really love you

rouge must have super powers.

those "whatever warcrimes" have resulted in millions dead. and just in this century alone. so lets not make light of that issue. but yes, there does need to be a fight to protect the marginalized in this country. tho i would argue this place is in worse shape than china as far as standard of living, since the quality of life metrics in china are higher than they are here, plus they eliminated homelessness, and have an amazing public transit system, countrywide. i seen some nice things out of russia like a good public transit system, and decent housing. dprk, while poor, still manages to house and feed their citizens, despite facing heavy sanctions. yes, they all have many issues, but you could say that about every country.

ok so yes, we both agree, this country sucks all around. im not gonna argue, you should all support these "shitty" countries just cuz. i only encourage conversation. i have my own reasons aside from "america sucks" to give support to those nations. i dont buy the msm propaganda thrown at those nations. i asked before but i'll ask again, how can people believe our country when they got a history of lying about said "bad guys". im not about ignoring our issues here at home, but more about also paying attention to what is going on abroad. some believe that method of making allies has worked in the past in bringing about change, and can help us today. some would even make a simpler argument, more money for wars, means less money at home. either way, we need all the help we can get. no it wont fix all of our issues here at home, but it can give a better chance than just messing around with the 2 party system. what is it they say about insanity? trying the same thing and expecting different results? i believe in cooperation. but seeing as this country is not about that, then the next best thing would be to do nothing. again for arguments sake, lets say russia is a crazy nation the usa says, then why would you want to provoke nuclear war with such an unstable country? wouldnt it be best to maybe not do that? they take over ukraine, and then what? the results would not have been as bloody as they are now without our intervention. "standing up" to russia has cost many russians, and many more ukrainian their lives.

has begun. how many bites you have?

another vote for tom goes to the mayor from me.

that their elections are shams.

you guys got non msm or western media proof. or media not funded by usa/the west?

of course you would say that, but it doesnt make it true.

both russia and china run elections. the only one you could say that doesnt is the dprk. and even then i would say their situation is more nuanced.

false, you got no idea how their system works. both leaders are very popular by their own people. and both dont get to do whatever they want.

i never voted for bernie. he wasnt even my top candidate, i liked jill/ajamu much better. i only acknowledge that he would have gotten my vote if he got the nomination since he ran on some much needed progressive platforms. the push to hillary was disappointing but expected.

i see it as all connecting, which is why im just as focused as i am with foreign affairs as i am with domestic ones. so its not an act, but more as something i dont see people talk about. like how am i gonna know, you dont know how shitty we are abroad if i dont see it talked much at all? i dont agree with the "dictator" labels being thrown around by this place which is the same views as msm. they literally say that about anybody we are not supposed to like and its obviously made to draw negative sentiments and manipulate us to feel a certain way.

someone needs a bigger hard drive.

thats like a heart attack waiting to happen. i want some!

i mean you know how shitty this country is here at home, how hard is it to imagine we are just as shitty abroad? you cant expect me to come up with a solution to something as big as this. theres been greater minds that have been trying for far longer. i can only say whats worked in the past, as things we can try. the path to change is one that will require a lot of work and help.

not everything is "russian talking points". like what a convenient way to avoid other points.