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  On 10/6/2020 at 5:59 PM, tsar4 said:

Why would you use the White Man's term "tribe"?

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Because a lot of our native languages are extinct or endangered or we have very limited knowledge of them. Thanks to the genocide, boarding schools, missions, and continued anti-indigenous peoples policies.  (Some languages are still going strong and a lot of tribes have preservation and restoration programs though.) So we use "tribe" and our languages are diverse enough where if we used the descriptor that best first our specific group other people wouldn't know what we were talking about.  

Also, as a non-native you have no place trying to police our language.  Especially how we choose to refer to ourselves.

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  On 10/6/2020 at 7:28 PM, Le Guignon said:

Because a lot of our native languages are extinct or endangered or we have very limited knowledge of them. Thanks to the genocide, boarding schools, missions, and continued anti-indigenous peoples policies.  (Some languages are still going strong and a lot of tribes have preservation and restoration programs though.) So we use "tribe" and our languages are diverse enough where if we used the descriptor that best first our specific group other people wouldn't know what we were talking about.  

Also, as a non-native you have no place trying to police our language.  Especially how we choose to refer to ourselves.

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Wasn't trying to "police", I just figured there would be a Nations term for "Us" aka "tribe".  Like I have "Clan Henry" and "Clan Keith" maternally.

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  On 10/6/2020 at 5:59 PM, tsar4 said:

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//> it's just easy that way , its alright I take no offense but yes I am very disconnected from the reservation and have no contact with them other than the few older family members (seniors) who talk to a few friends down in NC ./

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I thought we weren't allowed to say the N word anymore. Isn't it First Nations People now? GF had a college class for Native American Studies, professor outright says if you use the word Native when you mean First Nations People on any paper; you're getting a 0 for the whole thing. In a class called Native American Studies.  I only ever knew one Native, which was what he was cool being called. He was old and died a few years ago, used to date my grandma. His name was Buck, but people called him Blind Buck because of the cataracts. He made me a powder horn for my muzzle loader out of a cow or buffalo horn. Nice guy last of his tribe and family were probably the only ones who could claim to have been in this town longer than my family. 

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  On 10/7/2020 at 3:21 AM, HardcoreHunter said:

I thought we weren't allowed to say the N word anymore. Isn't it First Nations People now? GF had a college class for Native American Studies, professor outright says if you use the word Native when you mean First Nations People on any paper; you're getting a 0 for the whole thing. In a class called Native American Studies.  I only ever knew one Native, which was what he was cool being called. He was old and died a few years ago, used to date my grandma. His name was Buck, but people called him Blind Buck because of the cataracts. He made me a powder horn for my muzzle loader out of a cow or buffalo horn. Nice guy last of his tribe and family were probably the only ones who could claim to have been in this town longer than my family. 

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//> you have to say indigenous people of America,  I heard that about colleges trying to right by us bet we have half of Oklahoma now so that's a win , sweet still have the horn like to see it,  kind racist to call him that though just saying ./

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//> you have to say indigenous people of America,  I heard that about colleges trying to right by us bet we have half of Oklahoma now so that's a win , sweet still have the horn like to see it,  kind racist to call him that though just saying ./

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I just called him Buck, but his friends and my dad called him Blind Buck. I at least hope that he took it as a term of endearment. Either way I'm too stuck in my ways of saying Native American. I'll say the other term but it really doesn't come a natural. I'll post a pic of the horn. It has some names and map stuff off it. I have the one part covered because my name is also on it. 

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  On 10/7/2020 at 4:35 AM, HardcoreHunter said:

I just called him Buck, but his friends and my dad called him Blind Buck. I at least hope that he took it as a term of endearment. Either way I'm too stuck in my ways of saying Native American. I'll say the other term but it really doesn't come a natural. I'll post a pic of the horn. It has some names and map stuff off it. I have the one part covered because my name is also on it. 

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//> ha as long as he was cool with it , and that's an awesome horn very well crafted ./

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  On 10/7/2020 at 12:41 PM, //>wagz./ said:

//> ha as long as he was cool with it , and that's an awesome horn very well crafted ./

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Thanks my phone camera kinda sucked there at picking up the little detail stuff. I think the horn was something passed down, and he just added my name to it and gave it to me when I started hunting. My grandpa died when my dad was 6. If you remember how cars and tractors used to need to be cranked to start. Our tractor had that and it locked in and rotated the crank back breaking his arm; which led to a bone infection that killed him. So Buck was probably the closest thing he had to a dad growing up. Makes more sense though why my Dad originally was going to name me Buck, but mom wanted my name to be Hunter. No idea why she wanted Hunter, it wasn't a common name in the 80s. My brother had the more meaningful names already with both my grandfathers names as his first and middle, so I got named after a sport/hobby.  So now he just has a puppy that he named Buck. He's a lil chungus. Though I doubt my dad didn't like the guy considering he keeps trying to name things after him.  
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//> you have to say indigenous people of America,  I heard that about colleges trying to right by us bet we have half of Oklahoma now so that's a win , sweet still have the horn like to see it,  kind racist to call him that though just saying ./

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that's racist to say that? I thought that was the PC term 😮 

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  On 10/7/2020 at 6:05 PM, HardcoreHunter said:

Thanks my phone camera kinda sucked there at picking up the little detail stuff. I think the horn was something passed down, and he just added my name to it and gave it to me when I started hunting. My grandpa died when my dad was 6. If you remember how cars and tractors used to need to be cranked to start. Our tractor had that and it locked in and rotated the crank back breaking his arm; which led to a bone infection that killed him. So Buck was probably the closest thing he had to a dad growing up. Makes more sense though why my Dad originally was going to name me Buck, but mom wanted my name to be Hunter. No idea why she wanted Hunter, it wasn't a common name in the 80s. My brother had the more meaningful names already with both my grandfathers names as his first and middle, so I got named after a sport/hobby.  So now he just has a puppy that he named Buck. He's a lil chungus. Though I doubt my dad didn't like the guy considering he keeps trying to name things after him.  
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//> I'm sorry to read that , it's nice that they were close as they were and the name to carry it on in remberence is very sweet , hunter is a very not strange name for a person to have guess you're a trend setter on that one , that little chungus is adorable ./

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  On 10/7/2020 at 6:35 PM, tsar4 said:

That's just the term du jour. It will change.  Eventually, people will embrace their DNA origins. 

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//> I hope people can accept their blood , not like those who flip on their ancestry DNA reveal videos ./

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