Distinct Lunatic Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Hoping someone that knows a thing or two about cars and their mechanics could share some wisdom. This Friday I plan on going to this one dealership and trading in my car for something better. The car I'm looking at is a 2016 Honda Civic EX, that so far I'm pretty damn interested in. I've watched a bunch of reviews that painted it in a very positive light, and with it being a Honda Civic reliability is almost guaranteed. The big thing though that I'm concerned about is when it comes to it's transmission, it using CVT transmission, and so many videos and articles I've looked at says those types are destined to fail and will cost over 3 grand to replace when they do. Though I have seen statements that of all cars with that type of transmission Honda's are the most reliable and better implemented. I'm still concerned though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doom Metal Alchemist Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 The only thing I can do to help is tag @Rogue_Alphonse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsar4 Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 My 2006 Prius has a CVT and I've never had any issues. If you're seeing otherwise, perhaps it is an issue for Hondas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distinct Lunatic Posted August 20, 2020 Author Share Posted August 20, 2020 8 hours ago, tsar4 said: My 2006 Prius has a CVT and I've never had any issues. If you're seeing otherwise, perhaps it is an issue for Hondas? It won't be til tomorrow when I'll go and check out the car, I've just been looking at a lot of reviews for the Honda, them all saying great things. There hasn't been anything said to indicate that it's CVT transmission is bad, but it doesn't help that when I try to find out more about CVTs it's all about how "they're destined to fail". That said though it could very well be old fashioned folks that are going off on them since they're relatively new and not the "standard" gear based transmission type. I'm looking forward to tomorrow. I'll be using a vacation day so I can have a 3 day weekend, tomorrow being when I plan on looking at / trying out cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distinct Lunatic Posted August 21, 2020 Author Share Posted August 21, 2020 As of today I'm now the owner of a 2016 Honda Civic. I am a bit annoyed though, I was hoping to get more from my trade in but there were a few things that didn't manage to fly under the radar. I knew the front suspension for my car was going bad, but when their guys took a look at it they said to replace them and possibly the rear suspension as well would easily cost them close to a grand. There also being two lesser things they'd need to fix to be able to sell the vehicle. The kbb valued my trade in at around 2 grand which I would have gotten, but because of those issues I only got $600. I guess the nice thing though is I was still able to get the car today without paying anything out of pocket. I do love this new car, it looks, drives, and feels so much better than this new one. I am paying more than I wanted, at $350 a month but it does carry two warranties, one for 50,000 miles (which should be fine cause in the 3 years I owned my previous car I didn't even put 20k miles in it), and one that covers any of the electrical stuff in the car going bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawdamizer Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Who here knew no matter what, this guy was buying something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resurrected Posted August 21, 2020 Share Posted August 21, 2020 Why would you trade it in for $600? Should have just kept it. They got a free car. It doesn't cost dealers shit to fix a vehicle. So, that grand they said was bullshit, just to give you nothing for the car. Guaranteed, in a week, it'll be for sale for 3K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stopopeningupnewsignups Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 what happened to Rogue? Guess the place is too boring even for him to answer car questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distinct Lunatic Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, resurrected said: Why would you trade it in for $600? Should have just kept it. They got a free car. It doesn't cost dealers shit to fix a vehicle. So, that grand they said was bullshit, just to give you nothing for the car. Guaranteed, in a week, it'll be for sale for 3K. Well I knew beforehand the car needed work done to it. As far as the suspension goes it would have cost around $500 in parts, if I went to any mechanic to do it (me not knowing anyone that could do it) it could easily run me close to around a grand. Also there was an issue with the tires that I was aware of, that the finish on the rims was going to shit, causing them to leak air, me having to put air in them once a month. I got the price to refinish the four wheels some months back and it'd have been like $70 per wheel. Not sure how the dealership knew about that one. And I didn't want to put all that money into a car that I was planning on trading in within a year, when I'd quite literally just break even in trade in value. The blue book listing for the trade in being around 2 grand. So I'd spend all that money and time just to break even Edited August 22, 2020 by Distinct Lunatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resurrected Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, Distinct Lunatic said: Well I knew beforehand the car needed work done to it. As far as the suspension goes it would have cost around $500 in parts, if I went to any mechanic to do it (me not knowing anyone that could do it) it could easily run me close to around a grand. Also there was an issue with the tires that I was aware of, that the finish on the rims was going to shit, causing them to leak air, me having to put air in them once a month. I got the price to refinish the four wheels some months back and it'd have been like $70 per wheel. Not sure how the dealership knew about that one. And I didn't want to put all that money into a car that I was planning on trading in within a year, when I'd quite literally just break even in trade in value. The blue book listing for the trade in being around 2 grand. So I'd spend all that money and time just to break even But for $600, I would have kept it and sold it myself. It couldn't have helped you much in the end on purchasing the new car. We went to a dealer back in April. I drove my old Dodge Ram down there to take my wife because I knew she was coming home with a new car. She got a new Buick SUV and paid zero down. They tried to get me to trade my truck in on it, and I just laughed at them. I don't care what they were offering, I wasn't trading my truck. But it didn't affect the down payment. Still zero down. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distinct Lunatic Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, resurrected said: But for $600, I would have kept it and sold it myself. It couldn't have helped you much in the end on purchasing the new car. We went to a dealer back in April. I drove my old Dodge Ram down there to take my wife because I knew she was coming home with a new car. She got a new Buick SUV and paid zero down. They tried to get me to trade my truck in on it, and I just laughed at them. I don't care what they were offering, I wasn't trading my truck. But it didn't affect the down payment. Still zero down. I do agree that you have a point. But I have an issue with that stuff... I could have just sold it myself to someone that'd be none the wiser, but I legit couldn't do that, I literally can't bring myself to deceive people for money. When it comes to money I legit don't like taking it from people. The majority of folks only think about the money, but I don't like the feeling that I'm ripping someone off or doing them a disservice. Whenever I work on computers for people I'm good with, I don't want to take money from them. I think it comes down to how bad money's been in my household growing up, where handling money causes me to reflect too much on the hardships involved in obtaining it. So you could say I subconsciously feel like I'm impacting them by taking their money... it's a subconscious thing, you wouldn't understand. Also I feel like even if I tried selling it myself I'd wait months and the only offers would be people lowballing the price, and it'd just sit there while I want to move on to a better vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resurrected Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Distinct Lunatic said: I do agree that you have a point. But I have an issue with that stuff... I could have just sold it myself to someone that'd be none the wiser, but I legit couldn't do that, I literally can't bring myself to deceive people for money. When it comes to money I legit don't like taking it from people. The majority of folks only think about the money, but I don't like the feeling that I'm ripping someone off or doing them a disservice. Whenever I work on computers for people I'm good with, I don't want to take money from them. I think it comes down to how bad money's been in my household growing up, where handling money causes me to reflect too much on the hardships involved in obtaining it. So you could say I subconsciously feel like I'm impacting them by taking their money... it's a subconscious thing, you wouldn't understand. Also I feel like even if I tried selling it myself I'd wait months and the only offers would be people lowballing the price, and it'd just sit there while I want to move on to a better vehicle. Nah. You could be honest. You would have still made more than $600. Far as not wanting to take money from people, I understand what you mean. I feel that way if it's a family member or someone who's done me a favor. Other than that, it doesn't bother me in the least. I had a peanut business, and I had repeat customers. Well, one day, a repeat customer came up and wanted a couple of bags. They were $5 each. He knew that. He handed me $6 and said that's gonna have to work. I said no it's not going to have to work. He got pissed and said he was leaving, while walking away with the peanuts. I said, you can walk away with those peanuts for $6, but you're gonna take an ass whipping with you. He gave me my $4 dollars and said he'd never be back. To which I said get the fuck outta here you bum. See, I worked hard on my product, and even though he was a repeat customer, I didn't owe him shit. Pay the price or get the hell on. I only gave breaks to people who bought in bulk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distinct Lunatic Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, resurrected said: Nah. You could be honest. You would have still made more than $600. Far as not wanting to take money from people, I understand what you mean. I feel that way if it's a family member or someone who's done me a favor. Other than that, it doesn't bother me in the least. I had a peanut business, and I had repeat customers. Well, one day, a repeat customer came up and wanted a couple of bags. They were $5 each. He knew that. He handed me $6 and said that's gonna have to work. I said no it's not going to have to work. He got pissed and said he was leaving, while walking away with the peanuts. I said, you can walk away with those peanuts for $6, but you're gonna take an ass whipping with you. He gave me my $4 dollars and said he'd never be back. To which I said get the fuck outta here you bum. See, I worked hard on my product, and even though he was a repeat customer, I didn't owe him shit. Pay the price or get the hell on. I only gave breaks to people who bought in bulk. When it comes to money and handling money, I'm both good and bad at it. I'm really good at handling it, able to finance a 70 grand mortgage and now a 16 grand car loan, plus two loans for other things about 2.5 grand total while still keeping my credit score above 750. But there is many things I could have done differently to have a bigger profit or more money in the bank. At the end of the day though like I said, I don't like working with money or handling it. It's something thats become essential in life, but as long as I'm still able to get buy and pay all my bills I try to limit how much influence it has. It's kind of funny, I don't like taking money from folks, even when someone like my mom pays me back for money lent I still feel bad for taking it since I know money in that house can be tight. Hell, I ended up taking a 3 grand loan last year cause they were close to being without power for like 3 months. Over the next few months that I was still living there she paid back around a thousand of it before I moved out, I told her I'd handle the rest myself. Doesn't help that she was laid off for several months last year, and with the Rona shes been depending on unemployment for most of this year. Edited August 22, 2020 by Distinct Lunatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resurrected Posted August 22, 2020 Share Posted August 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Distinct Lunatic said: When it comes to money and handling money, I'm both good and bad at it. I'm really good at handling it, able to finance a 70 grand mortgage and now a 16 grand car loan, plus two loans for other things about 2.5 grand total while still keeping my credit score above 750. But there is many things I could have done differently to have a bigger profit or more money in the bank. At the end of the day though like I said, I don't like working with money or handling it. It's something thats become essential in life, but as long as I'm still able to get buy and pay all my bills I try to limit how much influence it has. It's kind of funny, I don't like taking money from folks, even when someone like my mom pays me back for money lent I still feel bad for taking it since I know money in that house can be tight. Hell, I ended up taking a 3 grand loan cause they were close to being without power for like 3 months. Over the next few months that I was still living there she paid back around a thousand of it before I moved out, I told her I'd handle the rest myself. Doesn't help that she was laid off for several months last year, and with the Rona shes been depending on unemployment for most of this year. I think money is tight for most people. I mean, unless you're in the 1%. Luckily, our house is paid for. Just have to pay property taxes every year. All but one vehicle is paid for. Then we have bullshit bills like Netflix, Hulu, WWE Network, PlayStation membership, Xbox Gold membership, Nintendo Switch membership, Dish bill, internet and phone bill, light bill. A huge grocery bill. Just got security cameras all around the house. Most everything we have is paid for though, so we can't complain too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distinct Lunatic Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, resurrected said: I think money is tight for most people. I mean, unless you're in the 1%. Luckily, our house is paid for. Just have to pay property taxes every year. All but one vehicle is paid for. Then we have bullshit bills like Netflix, Hulu, WWE Network, PlayStation membership, Xbox Gold membership, Nintendo Switch membership, Dish bill, internet and phone bill, light bill. A huge grocery bill. Just got security cameras all around the house. Most everything we have is paid for though, so we can't complain too much. I think currently my monthly bills not counting food or gas, with this car payment is a little over $1600, currently I'm making around $1200 biweekly, so I have enough money to cover this. Will get easier as time goes on since I still have 2 more big raises due for the next 2 years before I go down to smaller yearly raises. By summer 2022 I'll be making at least $1500 each check. As for expenditures, one thing that'll help me out is paying off the 3 grand bank loan I mentioned earlier, I still have 1.3 left, that being $140 a month. I also bought a purple mattress and owe a little over $800 on it but I'm paid up well enough to where I could skip Sept. and pay in October, that one's like $165 a month. I also have around $350 left for my OnePlus 7T phone, the minimum for that one is about $50. I have less than $200 on my credit card, so realistically once I have those things paid off my monthly expenses without factoring in food should be like $1400. As far as gas goes, I legit live within 5 minute drive of my work place, so a full tank with my old car (which would be about 230 miles) would last me 3-4 weeks. This car gets an average of 36 mpg, and can get at minimum 380 on a tank, so I will be saving more money on gas in the long run. Edited August 22, 2020 by Distinct Lunatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distinct Lunatic Posted August 22, 2020 Author Share Posted August 22, 2020 (edited) One thing I do want to add when it comes to me making this deal, Simply put a Honda Civic is legit my most wanted car. I don't really know if I'd consider it my dream car since I kind of consider that to be something like a Tesla, but realistically I would consider a Honda Civic to be my dream car. My old car is an 07 Mazda, this car is a whole lot newer and only had one previous owner, and only 50k miles on it, so by Honda standards you could say its hardly been used. I work with a guy whose wife drives one, and they put well over 100k miles on theirs and aside from general maintenance not once have they had to do any real work on it. Another guy I work with had a buddy that has over a half mil on theirs and its still going strong. Even older Honda's are pretty reliable, back when I was 20 I used to work at shit-mart, there was this one guy that had a Honda Civic that was an older one, and while his dream car was a Mustang, he told me realistically he doesn't plan on getting rid of his Civic. This one I have I plan on keeping until the day it dies. I might buy a second car one day, especially if I get married and have kids, but I don't plan on parting with this car here unless it dies. Edited August 22, 2020 by Distinct Lunatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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