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Can't say I saw this coming. Given what else we know about this and the people involved, it should be hard for this show to be bad.

Hey I'm not the only one who thinks so and I'm not the even the one who came up with that idea. I mean there is no way someone would make a series like this intentionally and not have it be at least semi-parody. And you wouldn't be calling it shit-tier writing if you were still watching it right now. That thing with Noelle revealing her power was so good.

What the fuck?

Oh yeah, the mangaka drew this nigh trolling color spread lmao. Also wasn't sure the Hange-like/female Mayuri girl that wants to experiment on Asta was considered attracted to him that way lmao.

I don't know what you've been watching then.

I don't mind the art that much, but it does vary from episode to episode. There has been great art and animation, especially for some of the fights. I just said I simply prefer the women's looks in the manga over the anime. But I don't hate the look of the anime or the girls there. I mean I didn't read the manga first or find out about this until after the fact.

How is Natsu oblivious? He clearly sees that women, including Lucy, have a thing for him. In fact I haven't even noticed that he's pushed her away, except maybe early on, since his girlfriend or would-be girlfriend, Lisanna, died. Luffy has had some reactions that show he wasn't like that originally, but Oda retconned this and has since said that Luffy is asexual, which is bullshit. Characters can have other things take priority over romance and not be asexual. Luffy already acts child-like and naive, gullible, innocent... so with this Oda is saying Luffy is basically literally retarded. Since his brain is apparently so child-like he doesn't even have attraction to any member of the opposite sex (or same, whatever), and just cares about food, friends, and adventure. Early on he even only drank milk, and that wasn't a 4Kids creation. Naruto wants Sakura, but she doesn't want him. He eventually matures and figures this out. He also finally figures out that Hinata wants him after she blurts it out. I hear the rest of the relationship is basically off-screened though lololol. Goku I don't know what to make of. He seems to love his wife and family, but seems so clueless about everything. I did hear that Toriyama had thought about putting Goku with Bulma and regretted not doing it. Would it be kind of weird since she met him as a kid? I think the Chichi thing was forced on Toriyama by the editors at Jump. At least Kenshin was intelligent, not oblivious to romance, was a breath of fresh air as a shonen protagonist. Too bad the author turned out to be a pedo and the series is forever tainted. I had just finished re-binging the series too and was going to read the manga ending arc but now I don't even care to anymore. Given that Asta literally wants to marry a nun, I can't take that as anything but a joke or parody. I mean, it's obviously a joke to everyone else in the series? This series isn't meant to be taken completely seriously, which is what a lot of you are missing. It hasn't been lazy at all though. I just ran down numerous things that are almost unheard of in shonen and Black Clover is pulling them all out.

Whoopty-doo. It's like saying the old lady is the school nurse is significant. Orihime and Sakura can heal everyone, but does that make them the best, most well-handled characters? None of the women have yet to figure importantly into the plot or fight anyone powerful of note.

It's basically the art style of the manga. Though they made the women less curvy in the anime, which I'm disappointed to learn. And before anyone says anything, women can be strong, smart, and sexy! And what's wrong with women looking like women, huh? Women, most of them, are curvy!

ASA and Toonami too once in a blue moon would get little known dark horses, sleepers, diamonds in the rough, if you will. Many of these shows weren't anything til Toonami or ASA showed them. So they saw Kekkaishi and liked it and decided to air it. But since other shows like Soul Eater or Eden of the East weren't picked, people lost their ever-loving shit. Which, I mean, ASA really should have gotten Soul Eater at some point. Toonami aired almost to say "sorry ASA fucked up, making up for unfinished business." and with several other shows as well. But I sure as hell don't regret ASA introducing me to the series.

Does it have issues? Sure, but the women are handled far better than people give it credit for. But because there's some fan service and more than one woman is interested in a guy (EGADS!) that somehow means nothing else counts and the women are treated terribly. You're just following the rest of the sheople when it comes to SAO. You should learn to evaluate things for yourself instead of just parroting what everyone else says. Remember, Asuna BROKE THE GAME running to save Kirito that one time.

This. It's creative and fights are based more on strategy and tactics than brute strength. The characters and their relationships are great. This all only gets better in the manga. Which I agree the rest of really needs to be animated. As for one character in particular, I really related to Gen. His demonic powers that he had trouble controlling reminded me of my anger management issues. He loses control of his powers and hurts people who he doesn't mean to. When Yoshimori told Gen that he isn't a monster, that was when I let go of all the guilt and self-hatred I had for years, I got over my depression, and began to love myself. I no longer got depressed after that. I did make a thread about this at the time back then. So, I don't really get depressed anymore. Still angry at times, but I control it better now, or at least try to, and I've learned to de-escalate situations, and not be so self-critical and hard on myself. Some of this is with the help psychiatrists and therapists, friends, family. Not going to credit this all to Kekkaishi, lol, but it was definitely a turning point for me. Not at my best right now, though, as my bi-polar meds are seemingly losing their effectiveness, but hopefully that will be sorted out at my next psychiatrist appointment. Doesn't help my old one retired and then my new one moved to California after I saw her just one time. I gotta go way out of my town now as the next closest one I could see is no longer taking new patients.

People become fat and comedic when they age? Ok elfie lol. No one cares what you watch, elfie.

I like the headphones girl. She reminds me of Jubilee.

Putting a show in a list of favorites =/= comparing. It just means I really like both shows. Or do you think I was comparing One Piece to Monster too??

Umm people were throwing FITS that ASA got Kekkiashi and not Soul Eater, Eden of the East, and not sure what else. This lead to people hating on the show because they didn't get the show they wanted, which is no fault of Kekkaishi itself.

With Asta I think that is meant to be a parody of that cliche, especially since the woman he wants to marry is a fucking nun. Like, there is no more clueless and oblivious shonen protagonist than Asta when it comes to romance. Also, Code Geass and Bleach are both harem animes going by y'all's standards. Bleach's female lead, Rukia, even has a harem of her own.

But what was the point of making her fat? And why did her personality do a 180 with no explanation? She's annoying and acts annoying. And remember how she reacted to Deku not having powers or whatever? Ryuko and Satsuki had a better mother LOL. Orihime can heal everyone and she was used less than ideally at times. Remember how she was going to reject the Hoyoku from existence? Oh and Sakura the invaluable medical ninja. So... not revealed in the main story. That's how important it is and how much we can expect it to feature in the show. They didn't go far in the tournament at all. Invisibility should make that girl one of the most formidable heroes in the series. May I will give you. She did great, but for some reason chose to eliminate herself. Guess she figured she had made enough of a splash already. The jokes don't land flat for me. Humor is subjective. Hmm these arcs have been downright brisk compared to other shonens. Would any other series have dispensed with Licht that quickly? Most of those are meant to be jokes. The siscon thing is a joke/parody, though still creepy. I was hoping he'd move past that schthick after he got some development in the last arc. It's too bad he went back to it, mistake by the mangaka there. Though, I never would have made him that creepy to begin with. Which, by the way, Gauche, no longer one-dimensional. Basically none of the Black Bulls have been one-dimensional since they got developed and/or we learned their backstories etc. And we just learned the flirty drunk woman is a very competent mage when not nearly drunk to death all the time. Asta can be corny, but no cornier than Luffy, Goku, Deku, or tons of other shonen protagonists, and everyone loves them. Most of the fight scenes have been great, though Yami's are some of the best, I'll agree with you there. Well Deku was supposed to be powerless and use gadgets and cunning like Batman or Ironman, but the meddling editors at Jump fucked that up. It's not, though. Are you still watching it? I've yet to see many other shonens pull things off and handle things the way this series has. Beat the main boss first, who is weaker than three of his own henchmen?? Actual combo and team moves?? Women that don't suck?? How often do we get to see that? They are indeed good characers, some of them (there's plenty annoying as fuck ones like Mineta), but My Hero Academia not free from the shonen trappings, as we can see many of the tropes still in play and not the least bit subverted, not that they have to be, but it's worth some points at this point to see something done differently, and the women are still on the backburner (in the kitchen, lul.) Not saying that MHA is a bad show. Far from. But Black Clover isn't a bad show, either. It's underrated and over-heated, and excelling in areas MHA is not, and it's been a pleasant and entertaining surprise for me. I'm sorry you can't see it, or don't want to see it.

Says the guy who claimed Gundam Unicorn was "fantastic" and that Audrey was a "fascinating" character. Lolololol. It was mentioned, but Yami, Noelle, some of the nobles have even shown to be more than one-dimensional cartoonish assholes. Solid wants to avenge Fuegolian. Before he just seemed like a snobby asshole. You say this... as a fan of One Piece. You're going to tell me the running gags their never get old? How about the time Oda actually had the chance to develop Sanji's personality and character, but instead had him lose the fight to bubble girl because he wouldn't hit a girl. How about how he and Zoro are STILL being douches to each other even after all this time? Or the panties and fart jokes with the skeleton guy... Talk about brilliant comedy that never gets old and not the least bit one-note. Sanji's whole personality is basically "FUCK WOMEN, DON'T WASTE FOOD!" And if you like Attack on Titan, those characters are all thin and one-dimensional as well. You're also forgetting the fact that it's almost certain that Black Clover is semi-parody. This means that you can still have serious moments, good character moments, but a good chunk of the show is parody and not meant to be taken serious. Hell, there was a whole episode where Yami made fun of all the Captains looks and their personalities and quirks, etc. These characters were deliberately designed and created, knowing they looked and acted silly and over-the-top, for Yami, a character the mangaka also created, in part, to make fun of. And I mean, this same thing goes in One Piece, too, people making fun of goofy looking and acting characters. Yami will sit there and make 4th wall breaking jokes all day, and they're hilarious. Then there's Asta. He screams all the time, has no magic, so had to train his body physically way more than anyone else to match up, he wants to be the wizard king, and he wants to try to marry a fucking nun of all people. Then he has multiple women with crushes around him that he is either oblivious to or not acknowledging. I think he at least must have a clue about Noelle. But, are you really going to tell me a character like this is meant to be taken 100% seriously? That is the most cartoonish shonen cliche of a main character I could ever think of. HE WANTS TO MARRY A NUN. And think back to Sanji... the jokes with him have wore thin as it is, but then when they start to affect serious character moments, and the plot... it's about as welcome as the out of place shitty art shifting comedy in FMA Brotherhood. Charmy fell in love with Yuno after HE SAVED HER FOOD FROM FALLING. Come the fuck on. No way that is meant to be serious. So yeah you either got a stick up yer ass, or you're clearly unable to perceive that Black Clover is a brilliant parody of the shonen genre, just like "Hunter x Hunter is a brilliant subversion of the shonen genre." =3

No one cares about your weirdo fetishes.

And what have they done again? Besides provide fap fodder? Mt. Lady was going to be the female lead, but was changed to Uraraka for some stupid reason I can't remember. Something about the limitations of her power. Imagine not being creative enough to figure out how to use Ant-man/Giant-man as a main character.

Black Clover Page 48 Discussion Last time on Black Clover, despite Noelle's heavy damage inflicted upon Vetto, he was somehow able to recover though some unnatural means, mythical beast or demon power, he regenerated his injury, grew a third eye, and became even more powerful. Asta is back in the fight after being healed a little by Kahono, who is barely alive herself. Finraal and Vanessa have jumped in and are helping Asta to engage Vetto, combining their powers for some ingenious team attacks. Noelle is attempting to look after the rest of the injured. Will this team finally be enough to defeat Vetto?!

It's why I never listen to what reviews or other viewers say, and form my own opinions based on my own experiences and how I receive something. I don't let myself have any expectations. Indeed. I greatly prefer it over Hiatus as well. The world actually makes sense in Black Clover, and the characters aren't all semi-sociopathic unlikable scumbags.

I really love Black Clover now. It's probably one of my favorite anime series. I don't know why people talked so much shit about it. Besides the obvious semi-parody aspects, the characters and storyline have really been great, and only improving as the story goes on. It was recently revealed that Noelle isn't bad at aiming, she simply subconsciously doesn't want to hurt people. She can aim just fine and is very powerful, and took out the arm and torso of a villain in one shot that the entire cast couldn't lay a scratch on. Vanessa is a very competent mage with useful ability, thread magic, that can be used to aid others in addition to fighting on her own, for great combo attacks. ALSO COMBO AND TEAM ATTACKS. YOU NEVER SEE THAT ENOUGH IN SHONEN! Gray turned out to be a shy, timid girl all along, and with different ways of using her transformation magic, even on other objects besides herself, and was instrumental in helping Gauche defeat the Eye of the Midnight Sun member he came across. Charmy showed an unexpected badass side which I can't wait to see more of. Right now, the Black Bulls and the Magic Knights have already defeated the leader, main villain, essentially, of the series, or at least current arc, and he's laid up in a magic bacta tank. Not only did they fight the big bad first, but he is weaker, and now they're fighting Vetto, his henchmen. With the voice of Fat Cat, troll powers of Aizen, and character design of a He-man villain, he is truly a worthy opponent! You'd never see this happen in One Piece, maybe Naruto or Bleach at times, had strong villains besides the main enemy, but they usually weren't fought after the main boss. Imagine if the Arrancar Arc ended with Aizen already beaten and the Soul Society having to take out Yammy's straggling troll-ass. Would Luffy ever fight the main boss, beat him, then take on a henchman? Would someone BESIDES Luffy ever land a crippling blow, much less defeat him? Nope. At least things changed up with the last 3 arcs on the bubble island, prison, and navy HQ, but still... we'll see if this continues or it goes back to comfort zone after the time skip. I still haven't gotten around to watching that far. The women in My Hero Academia have been irrelevant and weak, and done fuck all to contribute to the plot. Deku's mother's character design and personality did a 180, during the time skip from the childhood flashbacks, with no explanation, and is now an annoying obese joke character and second worst character in the series behind Mineta, who is completely pointless himself and only exists to annoy. Numo is stronger than Evil Idle Hands L, but Handsy L still isn't beaten. The art, animation, and production values, music, and comedy have all been top notch as well. For me, Black Clover is up there with Robotech/Macross, Dragon Ball, Bleach, Fairy Tail, SAO, Monster, Moribito, Kekkaishi, Cowboy Bebop, Fullmetal Alchemist 03 and B, Ghost in the Shell, The Big O, Rave Master, as one of my favorite manga/anime series. I really hope Toonami renews it and continues it for the rest of its run. If they don't, I'll watch on FuniNow and then start reading the manga.

Puar is male. My mind has been broken.