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The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
Sketch replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
It's ratings fluctuated but in the first season it never dropped below a million viewers and as you may recall the lead-in was not Family Guy but rather The Boondocks when that show was on the decline. Given that, Dandy did plenty well for itself in season one. It only lost to Bleach one time before it started reruns and kept pace with the Boondocks. Season two dropped a bit from Bleach and really didn't work well between Bleach and Shippuden but had an upswing toward the end. Season One total viewers (not enough 18-49 data is available for this time period) 1,135,000 1,204,000 1,411,000 1,251,000 1,357,000 1,464,000 1,370,000 1,169,000 1,211,000 1,276,000 1,099,000 1,328,000 1,211,000 Total Viewer Average: 1,268,154 Season Two 18-49 Viewers: 432,000 508,000 410,000 396,000 434,000 522,000 519,000 538,000 697,000 556,000 624,000 565,000 702,000 18-49 Average 531,000 I wont say the second season was a smash but it certainly did not tank despite the very weak start on 4th of July weekend. It averaged around a 0.41 18-49 rating which isn't bad for 12:30AM at all and it didn't drop tremendously from it's lead-ins. Summer of 2014 wasn't exactly the ratings high point for the block either. -
The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
Sketch replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Yeah that's not how it works unless you marathoned chunks of IBO. I watched it week to week on Daisuki and the pacing was pretty dang bad. The dub in some ways makes IBO more enjoyable because all the information thrown at you at once is easier to process when it's not fast moving text but other than that it's just as bad on streaming sites as it was on Toonami. -
The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
Sketch replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
How many anime or cartoons in general get references on SNL skits? That's a ridiculous bar. One Piece was referenced on The Simpsons and has plenty of merch in specialty stores. -
Weebs wont care for this, it's not showing subbed. That's kind of a problem since they're relying on an audience that will watch the dub but are aware of events that happen in the Dressrosa arc lest they have those things spoiled for their own viewing. I gotta imagine there's not a huge number of people that fit that description. I got the screener and I can honestly say I don't think it was as good as Strong World or Film Z. It's entertaining but it's more flash than substance. It's would be a fine taste of One Piece for a new viewer if not for the major spoilers.
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Your Top 10 and Bottom 10 Toonami shows
Sketch replied to Zenigundam's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Including ASA only shows, really? And yet nobody said Pilot Candidate Bottom 10 (the shows I would argue were the worst Toonami has ever aired) 10 ) Blue Exorcist 9 ) Akame ga Kill 8 ) Pokemon Chronicles 7 ) Dragon Ball GT 6 ) Tenchi Muyo GXP 5 ) 4Kids One Piece 4 ) Yu-Gi-Oh GX 3 ) D.I.C.E. 2 ) Wulin Warriors 1) Bakugan Battle Brawlers Dishonorable mention to the Card Captors, Sailor Moon and OG DBZ dubs because they have NOT aged well but quality of those shows can still shine through their overwesternized, censored and/or poorly acted dubs. Gotta be honest, I like SAO, Beware the Batman and even the 2012 ThunderCats well enough to keep them off the top 10 but they were close and InuYasha: TFA barely missed the list. I maintain the stance that while Hamtaro was a terrible show to air on Toonami it was cute and not a bad watch. Top 10 (the shows I liked seeing on Toonami the most) 10 ) Batman: The Animated Series 9 ) Parasyte - The Maxim 8 ) Black Lagoon 7 ) One-Punch Man 6 ) Space Dandy 5 ) Justice League / JLU 4 ) Gurren Lagann 3 ) Megas XLR 2 ) Hunter x Hunter 1) One Piece Top 10 (what I would argue are the best shows Toonami has ever aired) 10 ) Sym-Bionic Titan 9 ) Black Lagoon 8 ) Gurren Lagann 7 ) Justice League / JLU 6 ) Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood 5 ) Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 4 ) Space Dandy 3 ) FLCL 2 ) Cowboy Bebop 1) Batman: The Animated Series Top 10 OVERATED 10 ) Dimension W (strictly from a Toonami ratings stand-point) 9 ) Gundam Wing 8 ) InuYasha 7 ) Naruto 6 ) Sword Art Online 5 ) Akame ga Kill (mostly from a Toonami ratings stand-point though this shit is oddly popular) 4 ) Naruto: Shippuden 3 ) Bleach 2 ) Attack on Titan 1 ) Dragon Ball Z One Piece would have made this list if the Toonami ratings weren't as low as they are. -
For most of 2016 Toonami has been monotonous and it has only become more monotonous and will be yet even more monotonous in January. There are some great shows airing but it's too much of the same shit over and over and over again. I happen to enjoy most of the shows on Toonami but I'm still burnt out on the same shit all the time. I don't think ASA has ever gotten quite as monotonous as Toonami has become but it definitely had dry spells and 2011-2012 was boring as hell once Durarara finished it's first run.
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I dunno Summer 2014 might have that beat. Space Dandy, Black Lagoon, Gurren Lagann, FMAB and Cowboy Bebop. I suppose if you don't like One Piece, Shippuden or Bleach then it's lacking a show comparable to YYH but I'd say One Piece suffices. Lets not forget most of the shows on ASA in 2002 were considerably censored compared to what Black Lagoon was allowed to get away with. I'd take Gurren over Gundam 0083, Dandy and Lagoon are as good or better than Outlaw Star IMO and FMAB is shounen done right. Sure you could argue some shows on the line-up drag it down but lets not forget Pilot Candidate was on Adult Swim Action back then and you can't tell me that even Shippuden filler, Bleach and Beware the Batman are worse than that.
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You'd never write in to support One Piece or Hunter if you had a Nielsen Diary? That just seems spiteful. I'm a bit surprised you are not getting any enjoyment out of Hunter still considering you had the patience for Bleach but I suppose Bleach hooked you early and despite everything the characters remained endearing to you. I'm glad you aren't dropping One Piece entirely but trying to do everything in your power to get it pulled off Toonami seems rather extreme considering you don't even hate the show. Maybe you should sleep on that for now and decide whether to avoid it on Toonami in a few weeks.
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Nonsense, it's airing at 2:30am at reasonable cost for it's position and performance. That really doesn't hurt Toonami at all. It even helps the lack of variety by being a bit more comedic than the other long series. Other shows might do better but it's not as if it loses a huge amount of 18-49 from Shippuden most weeks. The fact that it can even occasionally do better than a 0.35 18-49 at 2:30am gives them no significant ratings related reason to axe it.
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Toonami rings in the new year with Shelter: The Animation
Sketch replied to Blatch's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
It's a short film that is also a music video. Roughly 1 minute of it is narration from the girl the story is about. It tugs at many heart strings. It's also animated by A1-Pictures (studio that brought you Sword Art Online). I think you're gonna like it. -
CN's desire to attract more girls in the afternoon seemed to be a short lived one as they soon enough were back to being a boy's club for the most part. However, rather than return Toonami to weekday afternoons they got rid of afternoon action all together outside of maybe Ben 10 or Pokemon on occasion and dedicated even more of their schedule to playing the same comedies as they would in prime time and other parts of the day. Jim Samples stepping down after the Aqua Teen Bomb scare in Boston dramatically changed the network and it's goals. Even temporarily putting animation production on the back burner to churn out a bunch of live action shows. They eventually refound their footing with animated comedy but they stopped giving action animation adequate support and slowly but surely they phased out pretty much all of it. Adult Swim scaled back anime when they gained additional airings of FOX comedies and got better ratings from rerunning their own shows than anime but they never stopped playing it. As long as Mike Lazzo runs Adult Swim, Toonami isn't getting cancelled again. The only real danger is for them to lose some time but they've managed to make the block very cost effective to the point that they are at least breaking even on most shows including Naruto and One Piece which I figure have only become more affordable since getting shifted to the back of the block. There's a danger with doing "just well enough" though. They seem like they're on the road to complacency largely relying on Dragon Ball to keep the casual audience watching and also relying on the established fanbases more than looking to introduce fresh things. I'd certainly like to see more from the "fresh things" category.
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Sweet Super Kami Dende they Doubledowned on Dragon Ball
Sketch replied to Sketch's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Well that was quite a rant about Adult Swim. Aqua Teen ended but Robot Chicken is still in production IIRC. Just how much do you think those actors get paid? Animation for a single episode of Venture Bros. costs roughly 300,000 dollars. The 26th highest paid actor on US television per episode is Peter Dinklage on Game of Thrones. He gets 150,000 per episode. http://www.bingewatched.com/15-highest-per-episode-paid-tv-actors-time/ I'd have to figure the actors on Adult Swim live action shows get paid quite a bit less than the 26th highest paid actor. So while it's nowhere near as cheap as using talent with little to no notoriety it's still considerably more affordable than animation. In all likelihood Super's 8pm airing wont be able to do better than a 0.4 18-49 and something around 1 million total viewers. The 11:30pm airing which more people are likely to tune in for, that will also have the benefit of a Family Guy lead-in, is sure to manage 0.5 18-49 and 1.2 million at the lowest but more likely to get around 0.6 18-49 and above 1.3 million. DBZ Kai following that may actually crack 0.7 18-49 and 1.5 million due to less competition and the fact that it's the only airing once a night. And don't worry about losing a Family Guy, they'll still have double Family Guy as a lead-in. 10:30-11:30. Keeping DBZ Kai at midnight is likely the insurance policy for any kind of problematic Super viewership split. If they were following Super with pretty much anything else then I'd be a bit concerned but they are taking back 11:30pm the right way this time. They're letting people know a month in advance and they're adding a slot, not just shifting earlier so DBZ isn't leaving midnight where people expect to see it. If Super's 8pm airings choke, they will most likely switch to 11:30 premieres and 8pm encores like they had with Kai. Or they may stick with it as long as the Toonami airings don't look to be negatively affected by the 8pm premieres if that's what it takes to appease Toei. I honestly don't think the shift earlier this year caused their ratings to decline, I think that decline was going to happen either way because all of Adult Swim declined this year and so did the rest of cable. The timing merely made it seem like it was because Toonami tried to air earlier and added Gundam. That sort of thing only should have tripped up the audience a few weeks at most but it wasn't until One-Punch Man came along that things got back on track. Now that it ended things are down again despite moving back to midnight. I very much believe they can sustain 11:30 and even 11pm. They have enough huge titles to do it once they can secure Attack on Titan season 2. However, maintaining momentum from 11pm to 1am will prove difficult if the audience doesn't take a liking to JoJo or they get another series that can keep the DBZ viewers but the expectations for 1am-3:30 seem to be relatively low. Unfortunately airing earlier than 11pm puts Toonami up against a lot more sports and cable premieres but if it cannot hold it's own against all that then it's strength seems rather artificial. Though the same can be argued for most of what Adult Swim airs after 11pm, FOX reruns are very reliable for those hours anything else they try tends to be short lived. If Super does well at 8pm they might even try One Piece and/or Shippuden premieres in those hours that'd be a good way to open up some space on Toonami without pulling those series off the air. -
Sweet Super Kami Dende they Doubledowned on Dragon Ball
Sketch replied to Sketch's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Hunter's violence is probably too much for 9pm TBH, better off airing One Piece in prime time since it's much tamer overall. -
Do y'all think Dragon Ball Super will get topicals?
Sketch replied to OwlChemist81's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
Since it's long running they may not do topicals forever but I could see them doing them for at least a season. However, I would think the topicals would be be for the 8pm airings so maybe those wouldn't even use Steve Blum though it would see more fitting than Howard Parker. It's certainly possible they'd get one of the cast members of Dragon Ball Z to say the "on the next all new Dragon Ball Super". Maybe Sonny Strait, wouldn't that be a neat throwback to TOM 1? I could certainly see Chris Sabat doing that as well or maybe Sean Schemmel if they want it to be like Goku is narrating but that would be maybe too campy for the audience they'll be trying to attract. Maybe the topicals would mention both the 8pm and 11:30 airings but they really should promote the 8pm airing on Adult Swim and not just the Toonami aring. -
Definitely. 11:30 wasn't coming back for just anything but now I'm pretty convinced they'll shoot for 11pm with Samurai Jack and the potential for Attack on Titan premieres to carry the slot after that. I don't know if it would be sustainable after Titan ends but they ought to be able to. Bigger names and really only big names at this point though it may not remain that way it does seem to be the direction everything is heading in. I guess when you have the resources to get the biggest shows you don't seek out the diamonds in the rough very much.
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The Toonami Ratings Thread 1.0 :You are on a new board
Sketch replied to StarPanda's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
I adore JoJo but if Part 2 doesn't hold DBZ better than this then I honestly think they should swap it and Hunter which has almost always held its lead well and is ramping up. I feel if HxH is pushed to 2am this year that they have made a huge mistake casting it aside so soon. It hasn't ever really done badly regardless of the slot and that ought to be rewarded instead of punished. They should at least keep it at 1:30 if they don't see fit to move it up. Though double DB is a tough act to follow for anything short of One-Punch or Attack on Titan premieres, it may vey well be the case that this audience isn't going to appreciate JoJo. It's a darn shame but they shouldn't let JoJo stay at 12:30 if it can't hold DBZ at least as well as Gundam or Dimension W. -
I can't say I agree.
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The problem there is what's good is highly subjective... To some what's good is JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, Hunter x Hunter and One Piece To some what's good is Sword Art Online, Akame ga Kill and Black Lagoon To some what's good is Universal Century Gundam, Voltron and Robotech To some what's good is Attack on Titan, Hellsing Ultimate and Death Note To some what's good is Space Dandy, Michiko & Hatchin and FLCL To some what's good is Cowboy Bebop, Big O and Ghost in the Shell To some what's good is Naruto, Dragon Ball Z and Bleach To some what's good is Sailor Moon, InuYasha and Code Geass To some what's good is Tiger & Bunny, Blood Blockade Battlefront and One-Punch Man To some what's good is Ushio & Tora, Magi and Log Horizon I know a guy who loves SAO and AGK and thinks FLCL and Cowboy Bebop are trash and wont even respect them for their influence on anime and popular culture. I know far too many people who only like Dragon Bal Z, Attack on Titan and maybe One-Punch Man or Naruto. I know people who dislike pretty much all shounen and only want Toonami to play seinin anime. I know people who genuinely enjoyed DImension W or Tenchi Muyo GXP. I know people who thought Michiko & Hatchin was an inspired picks for Toonami and people who thought it was the worst thing they ever aired. I know people who love KILL la KILL and I know people who loathe it. I know people who are complaining to Toonami to air Tokyo Ghoul and others who are thankful it hasn't aired and are hoping it never does. I know people who would love to see Young Justice on Toonami and I know people who would be furious if it ran on Toonami. I know people who are excited for Samurai Jack and FLCL revivals and I know people who consider them a huge waste of money. I know people who think Toonami is nothing without DBZ and people who think DBZ is the worst thing to ever happen to Toonami on Adult Swim. I do not envy Jason and Gill having to consider all that. They know they can't ever please everyone so they largely go after the shows that get the most requests and occasionally get shows specifically because they wanted to air them. Though I do think they need to spend more time checking these shows, especially now that they barely have any slots rotating shows in and out.