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Ukrainian military *all year long* been using considerable resources and manpower and donated military surveillance equipment to prevent Ukrainian men from fleeing the country in case Kyiv needs to force them to fight in the war, leaving their wives and children who make it out to get trafficked and God knows what all. Ukraine is a giant prison with foreign fighters and weapons being poured into it from all sides https://www.businessinsider.com/ukrainian-rules-keeping-men-in-country-undermine-war-against-russia-2022-8

Ma'am, if you can't handle me reacting to your posts then don't react to mine like you've been doing. It's really that simple, or was this not explained to you the same way it was to me?

"American global hegemony is a big problem, but America should continue to serve as the global hegemon for as long as there are other countries around and, you know...doing things.." Hmm, it sounds like you don't really think American hegemony is that big a problem after all then, if you still think it should get to go to war whenever it wants wherever it wants, arm whoever it wants, attack whoever it wants, help whoever kill whoever else is convenient for the empire in any given scenario. Bc that's what we're doing right now in Ukraine, going to war w Russia bc we wants to, bc we've decided that America is justified when it does things and Russia is not and needs to be punished by America and all its rich friends who are never held to the same standard or punished for anything.

I was referencing all the warmongering War Criminal Joseph has been doing lately threatening to send American troops to China to defend Taiwan, bc we're always fighting ten wars and doing a thousand special operations simultaneously while constantly agitating for more. But yeah, it's these countries Russia and China and their imperfect responses to these endless provocations from America that need to be policed, no one can rein in America, but if one of these two step out of line we need America to go to war with them like we are seeing now. We heavily arm their unfriendly neighbors, installing unfriendly regimes when necessary as in the case of Ukraine in 2014, and expect them to never challenge US hegemony or else it means we are justified to go to war with them. Its always "is Russia justified? Are they justified to do this thing," that question never gets asked of America, it is simply allowed because empire. Is America justified to go to war with Russia in Ukraine? Or war with China over Taiwan? Why is America justified? Because it's America and whatever it says goes, because tubby white Americans on the internet say that America's stated justifications make sense to them? What the fuck are we even talking about. We are the war machine, it is America at the root of these issues, it is the American empire that must be stopped, not this fake specter of a "new Russian empire," not the Belt & Road Initiative, not all these other countries we can't stop going to war with and killing people in. It's America that needs a real regime change. For fucksake.

Yes agreed 100% but they didn't because that isn't exactly a realistic standard in this insane global game of "who will the American empire invade/go to war with next" like again you are saying this from the imperial core, why would anyone dare challenge the will of my all powerful empire, don't those fools know America will pump in all the weapons and go to war and risk nuclear annihilation to make some stupid fake point about 'national sovereignty' as if it actually gives a shit about that, as if it's genuinely the world police looking out for the little guy, standing up for Ukraine and Taiwan against the big bad superpowers, give me a break, we're warmongering and doing empire shit and it's evil. .....in the immediate aftermath of the US-backed coup and civil war heavily involving Nazi battalions that was raging on its border. Don't try to play this "Crimea was a provocation but not the US-backed coup it was in response to" It isn't going to end any other way.

This war should end asap before it escalates and becomes intractable, and that includes the war that had already been going on there for 8 years btwn the anti-coup pro-Russian separatists in the east and the Nazis and assorted """ultra-nationalists""" that fight for the Ukrainian military. Ukraine should cede Russian-controlled territory in the east to Russia (territory which has been Russian controlled since long before this year) and not allow America to steer the country into another years-long proxy war like what happened in Syria, because that would obviously be horrible because all these wars America whips up always are, as we are seeing now with this latest one in Ukraine. That's basically it, but everyone acts like that's giving Poland to Hitler or some such silly shit

"Russia should have just ignored all the provocations and then there wouldn't be a war" says the guy living in THE most endlessly provocative country that controls most of the entire world and violates other countries' sovereignty all the time. "They should have ignored the US-backed coup on their border that was pointedly aimed at further weakening Russia and strengthening the west, and just hoped and prayed that America doesn't continue fucking with it any further, forever..." Does that sound reasonable to you? This isn't a reasonable standard, me pointing that out doesn't = "and therefore Russia is right and good for doing this big dumb war just like the American empire wanted" like I continue repeating that they were provoked and this was what America wanted... Why would I support or justify that?? "Hell yeah CIA cool war, thanks for making Putin go off epic style" just stop.

Where did I say this? ....ok let's take this slowly. How?

We get that on IV drip

Quote me, show me what you're talking about. What do you mean I'm justifying it? Because I don't subscribe to the "cancer-ridden imperialist death drive murderous psychosis" theory that seems so popular here ..? Bc I point out America played a BIG role in making it happen, and wanted it to happen? "Violating Ukraine's sovereignty" expecting Russia to ignore the US-backed coup in Ukraine driving the foreign policy of that country's new govt away from Russia and toward the west... Just ignore that. Is that what America would do? ...why then would anyone ignore such a country/empire when it does so to them

Putin being interviewed, telling you in own words what he thinks of the US & Nazi-backed coup on his border...that doesn't interest you to hear...? I learned a lot from watching it I'll just say that.

I have also never made that claim, stop constructing strawmen. Of course it isn't being "run" by Nazis, that isn't the role of these violent Nazi militias, also many in the military may not be an outright member of a Nazi militia but again, Nazi is just one kind of terrible thing to be, and the American empire is big tent evil. The Nazis are being utilized for war and establishing a right wing culture of Nazi shit in America's new proxy state, that's who is fighting prominently on the side America is backing in this war no matter how much Americans want to blindly downplay it.

No, not at all, that is all fake Russian propaganda, never have I said this, that's not the purpose of this war despite what Russian PR says, and etc etc True Azov is most prominent now but there were various regional and local Nazi militias, the Ukrainian military incorporated these Nazis into their military after 2014 because they were good at war. I would def recommend looking up that coup for context as there has been fighting raging in eastern Ukraine all this time. https://www.newsweek.com/evidence-war-crimes-committed-ukrainian-nationalist-volunteers-grows-269604 Ukrainian ISIS, etc. Check out this Oliver Stone documentary, highly recommend. Lot of information and footage of the protests & clashes providing vital context for what we're seeing there today. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine_on_Fire US went into Ukraine, set up multiple "free media" propaganda outlets attacking the Ukrainian govt for being too cozy w Russia and not enough with the west, blaming this for people's grievances and impoverishment, circulating CIA propaganda and whipping up Right Sector and the Nazis we're in bed with to take advantage of the inspired mass protests and help overthrow the govt.

....and in Syria extremely recently! That was like the main thing we did there, find fake "moderate" rebel terrorists who wanted to blow up cosmopolitan Damascus because it had gay nightclubs and establish a caliphate/perpetual war zone a la Libya. That's our shit, that's what we do. Find the worst pieces of shit and arm them so they can cause war and mayhem for our enemies, I mean that's not even an exaggeration, just.. historically, that's what we do, that's what we're doing now with these fucking Nazis in Ukraine

No. It's not just Azov guys idk why you're hung up on that, they were just one of many Nazi militias that fought to overturn the elected government in 2014, that Nazi-backed right wing insurrection. Azov is a small part of the problem. This is like you saying there's only one "bad" police dept in America or something bc it got caught acting too proud of being full of Nazis, like come on. Putin seizing on something that is real and and spinning self serving propaganda from it doesn't negate that thing from being real. Well the Russians are ostensibly there to help the Russian-Ukrainians in the vast east territories, which essentially seceded from Ukraine following the right wing coup in 2014, but yes obviously they have their own natl security interests just like all nation states. Not having a US-military backed, NATO-backed puppet state full of CIA-trained Nazis who just did a coup and overthrew their government to bring in a more US-friendly regime directly on its border? Within missile range of Moscow? In the face of ever-increasing direct provocations from the superpower empire that has wanted to destroy it for about 100 years? Like come on. Not sure what you're asking here but no I'm not saying Putin is good or his kayfabe about de-Nazifying is true but neither is this "Nazis are a negligible problem in Ukraine suddenly, despite all the armed Nazi militias doing Nazi shit"

All I said was your claim that Nazis are negligible is incorrect and you seem to be acknowledging that now, Russian propaganda has no bearing on that fact. There was a whole right wing coup in 2014....Right Sector, many different Nazi militias, a literal right wing US-backed coup that ousted the elected government.... I mean this is some serious Nazi shit brewing.

Because what Israel is doing to Palestine with endless US support continues to be bad and that should me mentioned sometimes in the context of bad actors and regimes around the world who the US military arms and supports...?

Russia is a hell hole that we created. We did that shit, all of it, from the fall of the USSR on, from the refusal to humor mutual disarmament in good faith. Putin was our boy. I mean come on you're only further indicting US imperialism here.

The larger point isn't "Nazis are trump card evil", there weren't Nazis in Syria aside from whatever assorted US goons meet that criteria, there were salafists and mercenaries and US military and all manner of far right terrorists who the US directly armed to fight the Russian-backed Syrian government. Hillary Clinton campaigned in 2016 on shooting down Russian planes in Syria... The US military empire is the trump card evil. We are constantly waging war all over the planet. We back the salafists and the Nazis and the Zionists and give all the weapons of war we make to all the worst fascists and right wing extremists we can find, and their victims and the rest of the world have to deal with it.

Reality? My own lying eyes? Literally any source pre-2022? Hell here, and this reuters one downplays it like a mf tbh https://www.reuters.com/article/us-cohen-ukraine-commentary/commentary-ukraines-neo-nazi-problem-idUSKBN1GV2TY https://jacobin.com/2022/01/cia-neo-nazi-training-ukraine-russia-putin-biden-nato Recent Jacobin one provides some essential US imperialist context.

No.

Russia, finally intervening in the Nazi orc fuckery the CIA has been cooking up Isengard style along its border at the invitation of the local leadership - OMG This insane suicidal psychopathic cancer riddled warmongering madman is going to nuke the world if he doesn't get his grand new Russian empire! Why would he do all this, wage a whole war 100% offensively for imperial reasons and not at all in self defense as a predictable, intentional result of endless provocations from the American empire at all. It's Russia that is the dangerous empire here. Not the only actual empire on the planet. Not that one. "It's certainly a problem, but" Saddam Gaddafi Assad Chavez Maduro Morales Xi Putin and on and on, everywhere across the planet.

How is that clear? The eastern regions of Ukraine have been been waging war against US-backed Nazi militias and/including the Ukrainian military ever since the US-backed coup in 2014, they invited Russia in and want to be part of Russia and not this US-backed govt they've been battling for years now. Ukraine would rather continue the civil war it's been waging on its own citizens for years and stamp out dissent than cede any amount of territory to Russia, fine, that's fine, let's just have a small little tactical nuclear war over it, that's definitely worth it to prevent the dangerous new Russian empire~! Thank God for America once again going to war to prove some stupid point that always only ever seems very important to its aging white guys. Lol. It's The great problem of our time but ok

America is the crazed death cult that has actually used nuclear weapons in war before and recently "upgraded" its arsenal to include smaller "tactical" nukes making them easier/more likey to be deployed, America is the unaccountable empire which is constantly brutalizing anyone it wants to anywhere on the planet at the expense of literally countless millions of lives. https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/a-dam-in-syria-was-on-a-no-strike-list-the-u-s-bombed-it-anyway/ This is but one example of how America operates, relevant because it took place in the *last* proxy war America waged against Russia just several years ago in Syria. So don't go moving my post just because I'm saying something critical of the American side in this phase of the America vs Russia war taking place in Ukraine at the moment. This is America's war, this is the war they wanted to happen per its military, its "foreign policy" of global domination, and the people who rule America care exactly as much about the poor Ukrainians as they do about all those Syrians whose deaths we were willing to sacrifice during the course of our years-long war campaign there.