
moose
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It isn't saying much, but of the popular shonen, OP is usually considered better than most of them when it comes to quality of the writing. Yeah that's not saying much, but it still is. It's only here where I see a couple people be more critical about it. But of course it's this negative forum, eh? Just doesn't make much sense when we have Super and Naruto airing on the same block, two series with way more shoddy writing than One Piece.
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I'm all for being critical as long as it doesn't seem hypocritical. If you're accepting of the many faults from those shows, there really shouldn't be anything in OP to bother you. Because if there is (which is fine) then those other shows should also have problems arise automatically. But you can't choose to ignore those and consider them fine, but then highlights OP's problems. That's being selectively critical. Like this whole vilians living to fight another day thing. Almost every shonen does this. Hell, some of them take irredeemable characters that should have died and make them turn good . It's not just a OP problem. So why is it ok when other series do it? See? Hypocritical.
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Impossible.
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I'm just saying be fair and inspect all the shows with a fine tooth comb, not just One Piece. Story-wise, Dragonball has far more problems. Shows like Bleach and Fairy Tail - they have far more problems than anything One Piece has. Naruto. Fucking Naruto. Did we forget about that one? By comparison, OP's sins are nothing.
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So something I've noticed... One Piece has a harem element. Lol
moose replied to moose's topic in Toonami & [adult swim]
We all know you're a lousy hater. So fuck off. I'm fucking tired of your bullshit. -
I honestly think you should just drop OP since you seem to have more problems with it than anything else. I know I don't ever see you going this hard on the criticism for other series with far greater problems like Dragonball, Fairy Tail and Bleach. And until that is acknowledged, your little tantrum about how One Piece does things is bias bullshit. If you accept with open arms the other series you like with the multitude of bullshit moments they have, then OP honestly shouldn't bat you an eye.
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He beat up Eneru because he was in the way of letting him ring the Golden Bell, which is what he wanted to do to confirm to Cricket that the Sky island does exist. That was his main goal. Not to save Skypiea. He beat Crocodile because he wanted to help Vivi and Toto. That was his main goal. He beat Lucci to get back Robin. He beat Moria to get Brook and his crews shadows back (yes, the other people asked for his help, but he was already going to fight Moria for Brook regardless, as Zoro confirmed saving their shadows was just a 'bonus'). Yes, all these acts ultimately helped out in the bigger picture, but Luffy never set out to 'save the land from oppression'. He never says "I must beat them so I can serve justice and help all these people across the land", even though it ends up being that way anyway. I think you're not reading into Luffy's character enough. Every enemy he's faced, is only because they're either in his way or they're harming someone he likes. He never has a "I have to save the world" mentality. Ever. You seem to be really nitpicky with OP lately. Tell me, how many times has Goku allowed an enemy to leave. Do you ever get on his case for that? To this level? And Goku is much more of a justice warrior than Luffy. Oh and how about Natsu... not like he ever kills his enemies, either. He's basically Luffy with fire. You gotta remember, this is a children's comic book. They're not going to depict the hero wanting to outright 'kill' the enemy. Do I wish there was more death in OP? Perhaps. But not in the way you seem to want. Point being, you're this far into the series so you might as well get used to it. Dislike it if you want, but it's pointless to make a big deal about it like you're currently doing . Again there are other series with far grater problems that you conveniently disregard, but when it comes to OP - WHOO BOY, you sure are critical M I RITE? Where's your fine-tooth comb when you're watching DBZ or Fairy Tail or Bleach? Nowhere to be found.
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He probably just feels if such a thing happens that he'll just beat them up again. Luffy doesn't really hold grudges or regrets. he beats them up to get them out of his way currently and then moves on. He doesn't consider himself a hero or anything. Or someone that has to serve justice. Most of the time he fights an enemy is for the sake of a friend or because they're in his way. Yeah, most times it helps out MORE than just themselves or that friend... but that's not his goal. That's honestly just a bonus.
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Zoro has killed, but mostly nameless grunts. Well, like I said, Luffy just wants to beat them up. If they die, they die but if they don't... they don't. He's not holding back from fear of killing them. But he's not going to take a knife and slit they're throats either. He just wants them out of his way and by defeating them he feels they're done for.
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Well, I'm just saying, it might be Oda's code, but the StrawHats themselves don't really have a code. Luffy just wants to beat someone up and he mainly punches so typically you won't die from that. But it's not like he's got some moral code like batman or something. Not to mention, while the like helping out a friend, they're not really the type to go 'saving the world from evil dooers'.