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Well, Show Buzz Daily updated, so here's what we know so far: 12:00 AM Dragon Ball Z Kai - 1,364,000 (81.63%) 0.61 (steady) 12:30 AM Jojo's Bizarre Adventure 897,000 (65.76%) 0.40 (-0.08) 1:00 AM Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans - 859,000 (95.76%) 0.39 (-0.03) 1:30 AM Hunter × Hunter - 805,000 (93.71%) 0.37 (-0.01) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden - 727,000 (90.31%) 0.32 (+0.01) 2:30 AM One Piece - 614,000 (84.46%) 0.27 (steady) 3:00 AM One-Punch Man (rerun) - 583,000 (94.95%) 0.26 (+0.02) TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE - 835,571 ESTIMATED ADULTS 18-49 AVERAGE (0.37) - 475,343 http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-12-10-2016.html The block just can't seem to get over 500K 18-49 average since 11/5/16, and if you count all the timeslots (not just 12-3:30), THAT also fails. The last time Toonami's 18-49 block average has been over 500K is 10/22/16!

But I don't even know what episodes it is. Looks like 79-83, but I don't know for sure. Man, I forgot how epic they made Cell vs. Trunks in this, even putting an insert song into the BGM!

What do you believe the current top-flavor anime to be then? Is it something that Toonami should go after (or have they already?) Remember JoJo seemed like a sure thing a year ago; now it's a major bust!

The question that must be asked is: "Is JoJo doing this badly BECAUSE it's not a dub premiere?" We can see that Gundam IBO did worse at 12:30 but it WAS a dub premiere, so maybe we should still cut it some slack despite that distinction? It's also interesting that in 2017's first few weeks of Toonami, strictly speaking only DBZ KFC and Hunter x Hunter will be dub premires. Super as well, but at 8 PM. It kinda feels like there NEEDS to be a 3rd dub premiere during Toonami at this point, and Lupin III Part 4 would indeed fit that bill. But not withstanding that outside possibility, the "Dub premiere vs. non-dub premiere" distinction alone should be enough to swap HxH and JoJo. Hell, JoJo's already "easing down" to 1 AM for one episode during the "Power Hour" on 12/17/16. About that, you think Star Wars Parts V and VI are indeed a timeless classics worthy of kicking the asses of everything else on Cable TV? Then I've got bad news for you: on 12/17, they're replaying them--at 10:45 PM and 1:32 AM, head-to-head with Toonami!

Yeah, I think maybe some new blood is needed at 12:30, but would Lupin III Part 4 fit the bill? And it's a real shame that Mob Psycho 100 is off the table!

Well, maybe not. If Battle Tendencies really is a LOT better than Phantom Blood, it might keep pace. JoJo at 12:30 may yet be viable, though at this point it's been an embarrassment to everything else that has aired consistently at 12:30--except Gundam IBO.

Yeah, and I'm sure that pretty much actionless Kai epilogue episode didn't do the block any favors! If I had to take a wild guess, I'd say 1M/0.45 18-49, but we'll know soon! On that note... http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/saturday-cable-ratings-dec-10-2016/ 12:00 AM Dragon Ball Z Kai - 1,364,000 (81.63%) 12:30 AM Jojo's Bizarre Adventure 897,000 (65.76%) 1:00 AM Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans - 859,000 (95.76%) 1:30 AM Hunter × Hunter - 805,000 (93.71%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden - 727,000 (90.31%) There was certainly a "Force" to be reckoned with even for Family Guy! DBZ Kai actually did pretty admirably, even managing at least a rounded 0.6 in 18-49, but JoJo is a complete ratings trainwreck. Gundam IBO and Hunter x Hunter each also performed admirably by hanging on to JoJo's rounded 0.4 before Shippuden confused viewers even more. And as usual, One Piece missed the Top 100. For what it's worth, DBZ Kai, JoJo, Gundam, and Hunter x Hunter all won their timeslots in 18-49, but Shippuden might have dropped the ball to boxing on HBO.

Bleach may be past its prime, but its FAR from dead! New stuff for Bleach is still coming out, including fanfiction light novels and a live-action adaptation! Hopefully those, especially the latter, can get it right!

It was reported on Saturday night during the finale of Gundam IBO Season 1 that #GundamIBO was the #1 trend in America! So the question that must be asked is, will that social media buzz transform into ratings success for the season finale? Unfortunately, not so much. 12/10/2016 JoJo's Bizzare Adv. Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.52 Estimated 18-34 - 353,000 Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.40 Estimated 18-49 - 508,000 Total Viewers - 897,000 12/10/2016 Gundam IBO Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.49 Estimated 18-34 - 333,000 Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.39 Estimated 18-49 - 495,000 Total Viewers - 859,000 But to be fair, it DID retain JoJo pretty well, 96% overall and about 97.5% in Adults 18-49! Only 94.5% in Adults 18-34, which means that almost every person ages 35-49 who was watching JoJo stayed glued to their seats for Gundam! I guess we'll see how the whole block did a little later on today, plus how JoJo retains JoJo this time next week!

One year ago from now, Michiko & Hatchin just ended. How's THAT for a retrospective??

That one is pretty good!

The 5th episode also was without it, but the 6th episode brought it back!

Huh, how in the world could I have missed that? You mean they didn't even cover it on Pre-Flight? That's interesting! I was pretty sure I saw the whole marathon, but perhaps I missed an episode after all!? I suppose it's possible that it played while I was on my way home from a friend's house who didn't want to watch it because she'd seen it before, and I didn't record it either because my DVR missed it since it was a rerun! Well apparently if you're right, then 963K people saw it (not including me). And that IS plausible because that was the last lineup before the marathon stream covered that weekend's Toonami! In other news, listening to old Toonami Faithful Podcasts is quite funny, and yes, Episode #165 of the TFP does mention that the video did indeed air; how I missed that is beyond me!

Frankly, that's a good question! When DBZ Kai first got tried in that timeslot, it did well enough to attempt One Piece after that, but OP's ratings weren't good enough to hang on to its 8:30 PM timeslot. But Samurai Jack could succeed where Kai failed, and maybe also Hunter x Hunter? It's certainly tame enough for 8:30 right now! But what WOULD an earlier Toonami look like? Would it even be possible for Toonami to eventually take over ALL of Saturday night, save for a double Family Guy at 10 or 11 PM?? I think maybe that's a bit ambitious, but if Super REALLY shoots the moon, a 2-hour Toonami Prime block might be in order before 2 hours of comedy someday. It would look something like this: 8 PM - DB Super 8:30 - Samurai Jack S5/DBZ Kai 9 PM - Hunter x Hunter 9:30 - Shippuden 12 AM - Midnight Run (JoJo and one mature short series) 1 AM - Gundam 1:30 - One Piece 2-4 AM Encores of 8-10 PM Encoring the 12-2 AM from 4-6 AM would be cool, but probably wouldn't happen in this climate. One-Punch Man sort of proved same-night encores fail in the current climate. And yet they ARE trying just that wth DB Super, with the only real difference earlier timeslots for both and an extra hour between them! Maybe this time it WILL pan out?

When you think about it THAT way, it may actually be easier in our universe! ;D

The thing is, there's been blood in this series BEFORE: ...see?

Ah, so I guess what we'll see is extreme censorship at this point in the show (2012-ish), then as we get closer to episodes which aired in Japan in 2013 and 2014, the amount of violence will increase as the studios figured out the rules. Oh well; even when only aura shows with an arm being ripped off, I still enjoy this! More Kastro vs. Hisoka next week!

Not true! It's actually called "The Mystery of Tobi!" Should be quite interesting!

I'm kinda shocked at this myself. I guess it didn't change timeslot in Japan just yet?

I've seen every episode of Pre-Flight; even if I somehow missed it during Shippuden, I'm sure I would have caught it. BTW, the October 17, 2015 edition of Toonami is the one that opened with a snippet that appears to be from "Rattle That Lock," according to Toonami Digital Arsenal.

No, that wouldn't have been possible, since it came out in 2015, and the last movie month was December 2014.

Two Pre-Flights have come and gone, and most recent is the one that mentions Super and Kai... It ALSO mentions that on 1/7/17 there will be more premieres on Toonami in history, and that is in fact NOT the case, not even on Adult Swim! 1/7/17: DB Super; DBZ KFC; JoJo's Bizarre Adventure; Gundam Unicorn Re:0096; Hunter x Hunter; Naruto Shippuden; and One Piece - 7 premieres. 9/13 & 9/20/14: Attack on Titan; Bleach; Space Dandy; Naruto Shippuden; One Piece; Gurren Lagann; Beware The Batman; and Hellsing Ultimate - 8 premieres! But 1/7/17 will probably be bigger than 9/13 & 9/20/14!

In this thread, we share YouTube videos of great animated music videos that would be nice if featured on the late-night better cartoon show! You might remember the epic video for the song by David Gilmour, the legendary guitarist of Pink Floyd, the title track of 2015's "Rattle That Lock," which played during the 2nd episode of the Michiko & Hatchin marathon on September 5, 2015: There's actually another video from the same album which also captures the Toonami vibe, but it is quite a bit longer: But wait, there's even MORE!! Here is a THIRD animated video from the same album! What do y'all think?

You mean Dimension W, right? It was a special case since it was a broadcast dub. The contract was probably inked while the Yasogami arc was airing on Japanese TV, so all the staff had to go by for Akame ga KILL's replacement was like episodes 1-4 or 1-5, when it was still actually rather critically acclaimed. No matter how much of a confusing, disjointed, incoherent mess it was in its final 7 episodes, it actually did great in the ratings. Tenchi Muyo GXP, on the other hand, there's just no excuse for. The whole thing was available (hell, it was an older show and not even a dub premiere) and it was easy to see that it was just really, really bad. Believe it or not they started airing that shit in November 2012 at 12:30 PM. As bad as the November sweeps period was in 2014 and 2016, neither held a candle to the all-out Hell that was 2012's, thanks to this bumbling move. Of course Naruto would come in December and it would be bumped to 1 AM, then quickly to 3 AM where it would finish out its ill-fated run! Gundam IBO may have done lackluster in the ratings, but it was NOT a miss! And I'm sure we'll get Season 2 after Unicorn Re:0096!

Maybe also when King of the Hill is on?? I mean, you should probably never choose a cartoon character as a role model, but Hank does have many positive characteristics, including that he's honest, hardworking, and a man of integrity! [be like Hank]