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It's a good thing this show is hilarious or I would agree! That's the problem--we're thinking about this as a serious action show when it's really more like an action comedy.

Good point! That Outlaw Star promo was bad-ass!!

I was shocked that Beerus took being slapped by Bulma that in stride!

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EPISODE #8: THE ZAPPING OPERATION Get ready for another crazy caper!! 2 AM Tomorrow (8/12/17) ♤♡◇♧

...and the director is none other than Lady Satsuki herself, Carrie Keranen! http://www.animenewsnetwork.cc/news/2017-08-11/sunrise-to-release-gundam-seed-gundam-seed-destiny-with-new-english-dub/.120036 Would this be a good fit for Toonami in the future? I was personally hoping for either new stuff or G Gundam, but I guess I'd take Seed and Seed Destiny!

Edit: While we are on the final streaming run for this batch of episodes, it has come to my attention that the episodes that actually played were #13-#22 of DBZ KFC, which happen to be 111-120 overall. Interesting choice. Right now it's Episodes #18-#22 of Final Chapters. It's a shame they can't do this 13-22 thing for other series, like Gundam Unicorn, which would be perfect in getting OVAs #5 and #6 on Monday-Wednesday, and then OVA #7 on Wednesday night-Friday. It was worth watching since Gohan vs. Dabura is pretty awesome!

Sunday premieres tend to replay on Friday, while Saturday premieres (i.e., Toonami)--go online-only or perhaps elsewhere on Saturday. Wait, I'm wrong. The only Sunday show that's getting replayed on Friday is Rick & Morty--and that also happens on Saturday.

Yeah, but you're missing the big elephant in the room, and that's Netflix's asinine "binge-only" release model. In that respect Toonami and other streaming services like FUNimation STILL have the edge, in that they can do things the 'Flix would never dream of, such as air the first dubbed episode of a series when Episode 12 STILL hasn't even come out in Japan yet! Can Netflix do that? The best they can do, by their own limitations, is get a full season up of a weekly serial the day the last episode comes out in Japan. At least that's the case with anime. Their true original productions, which never see the light of day in Japan until they pop up bilingually on Netflix, are another story. But that model is completely incompatible with a series that's coming out weekly on Japanese TV. That's why other streaming services, and to a lesser extent, Toonami, still have the edge.

But DAMN, it is rare for Jason to blow out his frustration with other companies like this. And there oughta be a law against that. Individuals should be able to buy rights and sit on them, but corporations should be compelled to do something with them or lose them!

But they ARE about to create a revival of FLCL, and they MIGHT create revivals of Outlaw Star and Hunter x Hunter!

My best theory is this is in response to Netflix picking up Cannon Busters. The thing is Toonami COULD have a few great FUNimation shows, like My Hero Academia, that aren't tied up in Netflix hell (until the last episode is done so they can put them all out in their trademark "binge-able" format) but they just won't bite.

Full numbers finally in. Super back over 900K and 0.42 18-49: http://programminginsider.com/ratings/final-nationals/saturday-final-nationals-three-year-low-pro-football-hall-fame-enshrinement-ceremony-espn-nfl-network/ Thus, and assuming that 569K for Lupin is wrong, we now have: TOTAL VIEWERS RETENTION 8:00 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 667,000 8:30 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 742,000 (111.24%) 10:30 PM Family Guy (NPOT) 1,159,000 11:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 918,000 (79.21%) 11:30 PM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 851,000 (92.70%) 12:00 AM JJBA: Stardust Crusaders 702,000 (82.49%) 12:30 AM Tokyo Ghoul 664,000 (94.59%) 1:00 AM Hunter × Hunter 574,000 (86.45%) 1:30 AM Lupin The 3rd 469,000 (81.71%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 453,000 (96.59%) 2:30 AM Ghost In The Shell HD 386,000 (85.21%) 3:00 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 403,000 (104.40%) 3:30 AM Samurai Jack (NPOT) 363,000 (90.07%) TOONAMI TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE - 602,222 ADULTS 18-49 RETENTION 8:00 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 304,000 8:30 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 393,000 (129.28%) 10:30 PM Family Guy (NPOT) 654,000 11:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 541,000 (82.72%) 11:30 PM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 504,000 (93.16%) 12:00 AM JJBA: Stardust Crusaders 435,000 (86.31%) 12:30 AM Tokyo Ghoul 407,000 (93.56%) 1:00 AM Hunter × Hunter 375,000 (92.14%) 1:30 AM Lupin The 3rd 308,000 (82.13%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 271,000 (87.99%) 2:30 AM Ghost In The Shell HD 229,000 (84.50%) 3:00 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 240,000 (104.80%) 3:30 AM Samurai Jack (NPOT) 216,000 (90.00%) TOONAMI TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE - 367,778 CURRENT SHOW AVERAGES Total Viewers Dragon Ball Super (Prime Time Premieres) - 843,889 (27 episodes) Dragon Ball Super (Toonami) - 1,054,607 (28 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters - 975,931 (29 episodes) JoJo's Bizarre Adv.: Stardust Crusaders - 670,000 (2 episodes) Tokyo Ghoul - 679,647 (17 episodes) Hunter × Hunter - 782,705 (61 episodes) Lupin the 3rd - 511,286 (7 episodes) Naruto: Shippuden - 834,985 (168 episodes) Ghost In The Shell HD - 488,120 (25 episodes) Attack on Titan Season 2 Rerun - 386,000 (2 episodes) Adults 18-49 Dragon Ball Super (Prime Time Premieres) - 410,074 (27 episodes) Dragon Ball Super (Toonami) - 638,679 (28 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters - 589,103 (29 episodes) JoJo's Bizarre Adv.: Stardust Crusaders - 396,500 (2 episodes) Tokyo Ghoul - 415,706 (17 episodes) Hunter × Hunter - 467,426 (61 episodes) Lupin the 3rd - 302,571 (7 episodes) Naruto: Shippuden - 463,296 (151 episodes) Ghost In The Shell HD - 299,440 (25 episodes) Attack on Titan Season 2 Rerun - 225,000 (2 episodes) Adults 18-34 (Estimated) Dragon Ball Super (Prime Time Premieres) - 262,654 (26 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters - 398,310 (29 episodes) JoJo's Bizarre Adv.: Stardust Crusaders - 285,500 (2 episodes) Tokyo Ghoul - 278,235 (17 episodes) Lupin the 3rd - 203,857 (7 episodes)

Well whaddaya know? 11:30 PM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 851,000 12:00 AM JJBA: Stardust Crusaders 702,000 (82.49%) 12:30 AM Tokyo Ghoul 664,000 (94.59%) 1:00 AM Hunter × Hunter 574,000 (86.45%) 1:30 AM Lupin The 3rd 469,000 (81.71%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 453,000 (96.59%) 2:30 AM Ghost In The Shell HD 386,000 (85.21%) 3:00 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 403,000 (104.40%) 3:30 AM Samurai Jack (NPOT) 363,000 (90.07%) The 11:30-3 AM time frame was down 37% compared to Toonami's block footprint last year, which is actually a much more palpable downtick than the past 2 weeks! AOT S2 also gained on GITS HD in 18-49 by 0.01! http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-8-5-2017.html

There really WAS no shift, at least not in Toonami, until 7/29. All shows and their replacements had maintained their same timeslots since 10/1/16, with the exception of Gundam Unicorn/Lupin the 3rd and Naruto: Shippuden. It just FEELS like there was a shift because we abruptly lost 11 PM on 7/8/17. However, that does only apply to Toonami as there indeed WAS a shift in its lead-in. Family Guy had been consistently 10-11 PM for 4 months, jumped to 10:30-11:30 for 3 weeks, then back down to 10-11 PM for 2 weeks. That's anything but consistency and it explains the tumult in July. Well that, and the glitch that struck DirecTv and one other major cable service on 7/22. That's another reason I feel like things are now back on a generally positive trajectory. As for what happens when we lose an hour, well here's my best guess: 9 PM DBS Premiere; 9:30 PM R&M Season 3 rerun; 10 PM Family Guy x2; 11 PM Toonami

I'm thinking what we can expect from here is a slow build. Rick & Morty Season 3 seems to be helping! Hopefully this Fall we'll be looking at JoJo Stardust Crusaders consistently in the 900Ks and occasionally even cracking a million. For now though, gotta take the small victories and be happy with them!

Well, if it does happen, then I suppose that will mean no more 3-peats for Dragon Ball Super, and it will play at 9 PM and 11 PM. I believe DBS premieres at 8:30 PM MIGHT actually be preparation for it to slide up 30 more minutes. Like it or not, we're kinda stuck with 11 PM-3:30 AM right now, since I don't see Outlaw Star being jettisoned to 3 AM in the middle of its run, and for goodness sake these shows need to stay in their current timeslots for awhile so they can grow audiences! Like, for example, what we saw evidence of this week: Never thought I would actually be HAPPY to see a show get 700K at midnight, but that's where we're at. More importantly, Kai & JoJo completely obliterated the competition in 2 key demographics: Adults 18-34, and Men 12-34. In the latter, neither Live PD, ESPN Top Rank Boxing, nor UFC Fight Night even came close! 8/5/2017 Dragon Ball Super (8:30) #10 (-2) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.35 Estimated 18-34 - 238,000 ( 32.08% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.31 Estimated 18-49 - 397,000 ( 53.50% ) Total Viewers - 742,000 8/5/2017 DBZ Kai: Final Chapters #3 (+1) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.53 Estimated 18-34 - 360,000 ( 42.30% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.39 Estimated 18-49 - 500,000 ( 58.75% ) Total Viewers - 851,000 8/5/2017 JJBA: Stardust Crusaders - #4 (+3) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.48 Estimated 18-34 - 326,000 ( 46.44% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.34 Estimated 18-49 - 436,000 ( 62.11% ) Total Viewers - 702,000 8/5/2017 Tokyo Ghoul - #6 (+5) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.43 Estimated 18-34 - 292,000 ( 43.98% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.32 Estimated 18-49 - 410,000 ( 61.75% ) Total Viewers - 664,000 8/5/2017 Lupin the 3rd - #18 (STEADY) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.27 Estimated 18-34 - 183,000 ( 39.02% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.24 Estimated 18-49 - 308,000 ( 65.67% ) Total Viewers - 469,000 Almost everything up from last week! The only exceptions were DBS's 18-34, Lupin's 18-34, and Lupin's total viewers. Still, I guess this is what a good night is like in this day and age. But I'm optimistic that the audiences for these shows will grow from here with few missteps, until we get deep into College Football season, at least.

Now it's DBZ KFC on the stream, but I don't know which episodes. I'm just guessing it's #11-#15, which would be 109-113 of the whole Kai series! And hopefully episodes 114-118 (#16-#20 of Final Chapters) take over later this week. Edit: the stream has advanced to the next 5 episodes of DBZ KFC as of last week!

There may not be an annual loss this year. I mean what the hell would CN do at this point, just play another hour of Teen Titans GO?

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/08/06/game-of-thrones-cameos-coming-to-attack-on-titan-manga?utm_source=community_cr&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=news&referrer=community_cr_facebook_news Perhaps this will give AoT the star power it needs to be a huge success with Season 3? I mean, it can't get much worse than Season 2 did, right?

At this point in time, he was indeed the ultimate tragic hero! And also, man the wait after this part in the original DBZ was AGONIZING! Like a 9-month wait IIRC! Fortunately, we only need wait a single week for the continuation this time!!

The Original DBZ version of this episode is in fact where the 2001 season ended!

Plot twist: the 6th Universe earth is actually our earth!