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Just announced. I gotta say I didn't see this coming, and sorry but I won't be watching that night. Well, at least not ALL night. Might turn it on when I get back from a football game trip! The question is, will it be Season 5, or will it go back to the beginning?

Maybe, but ironically that's not really true of OVAs and other special events, despite the fact that Netflix's model is pretty much hard-wired in favor of them. I don't see Netflix getting the Dragon Ball Super special, for instance. Hmmm...

Hmmm, so probably not Outlaw Star unless they just play one episode less for 11/25, then. Normal lineup KINDA worked last year. But this will be a double-length TIE (why not just expand it to 5 episodes and go through Dec. 2nd?), so the first episode of the night (Dragon Ball Super) would get a REALLY wonky start time. Or it would just air instead of the commercial break, and the next commercial break would also be truncated or outright omitted, with just a "Countdown is sponsored by..." bump! But then again, I know Intruder 2 had "The Real Cost" as its title sponsor, but I don't believe Intruder 3 actually had a title sponsor! So many unanswered questions here...

I could be wrong, but I think by this point in October a year ago they had announced that Gundam IBO was the show which would be getting a marathon (of the end of the Brewers and the Dort arcs, episodes 13-19) on October 29th. We're only a little over 2 weeks out now and they still haven't made an announcement for October 28th. Most are suspecting it's gonna be JoJo: Stardust Crusaders, but nothing's official yet. Also, it was October 17th last year when they announced Children Who Chase Lost Voices would be the 3 AM Daylight Savings Time special. DeMarco has said it's unlikely we'll get a movie anytime soon, so I don't think it's that, so theoretically, Toonami will announce something else for the first 3 AM (2nd 2 AM hour) sometime next week. I'm hoping it's a one-off OVA, like maybe Interstella 5555, but there's no telling what we could get for that "bonus hour!" Also, unless they want to cannibalize some of the normal lineup for 2 weeks in a row, it would be confined to just that hour. And I'm thinking, yes, either after Outlaw Star, or unless they somehow pull a movie out of their asses, beginning at 2:30 AM instead of the next episode of Outlaw Star, meaning the Nostalgia Trip takes a 2-week break, which would be mind-bogglingly dumb after GITS 2nd Gig just plays one episode and then gets its next THREE weeks later!

No update. We're stuck with Dragon Ball Super 21-25 throughout the whole week, it would seem, and Wednesday advancements are a thing of the past. But we get a 10-show Toonami on Weekends; why can't we get 10-show marathons during the week? Then there would be no need for the Wednesday advance, and also, showing 5 episodes and then the same 5 is kinda hard to follow! But then again, even the weekend stream is fairly tough to follow, as you have no idea when it will begin, since it begins after Pre-Flight ends, and Pre-Flight has an irregular length!

But the regular lineup would probably be too restrictive for a 6-minute TIE to air at the top of the block. It's the main reason why longer videos usually happen during marathons: for some reason, they are able to take less time than a normal lineup. Especially something like Outlaw Star which is older and might have a shorter runtime.

IBO had a lot of hype going for it, but now we can see that it hasn't lived up to it. It's also retaining JoJo almost as well as Tokyo Ghoul did, which is actually pretty good. Ghoul retained 92-95%, while so far IBO has retained 90%, except in 18-34, which was only 86%. Still, I think it's too soon to call it out.

What aired in its place?

I get the feeling i'll get a 2nd chance to record those episodes of JoJo and Gundam later this year: JoJo will likely get the Saturday before Halloween marathon, while Gundam will likely get one of the two Christmas/New Year's holiday marathons, though nothing's official yet. JoJo's marathon, if it gets 10/28, would have the 10/7 episode 3rd-to-last, while any December marathon that features Gundam IBO Season 2 would go back to the first episode for sure, unless somehow Toonami were to contract to less than 8 episodes. But as 9-10 episodes would likely be out by then, I'd say IF Gundam IBO gets that Christmas marathon, it's gonna go back to the beginning. Just for the record, I'm thinking Lupin the 3rd probably won't get a marathon, but Outlaw Star probably will. I'm thinking November 25th for Thanksgiving weekend, and going back 9-10 episodes, though I suppose Outlaw Star COULD get the Halloween marathon, as it will have 9 episodes out by then. I just don't see it as likely, and JoJo will probably get it. The real question is, if Outlaw Star does get the Thanksgiving weekend Marathon, does it do like the first Attack on Titan marathon in 2014 and the Hunter x Hunter marathon in 2016 and go back to the beginning instead of back a certain number of episodes? Granted, last year it was business-as-usual on the Saturday after Thanksgiving, but this year we already know we'll get an extra-long episode of Lockdown, this year's TIE, so it's almost certain that marathon will air on that date.

Yep, that was definitely an off-night for Hunter x Hunter, as so far in 2017, it has averaged 92.3% retention in both total viewers and adults 18-49!

Though total viewers average was down slightly, not the case for the broad target demographic! http://programminginsider.com/ratings/final-nationals/saturday-final-nationals-nbcs-saturday-night-live-delivers-second-watched-week-two-telecast-five-years/ ADULTS 18-49 RETENTION 8:00 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 334,000 8:30 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 462,000 (138.32%) 10:30 PM Family Guy (NPOT) 781,000 11:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 587,000 (75.16%) 11:30 PM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 526,000 (89.61%) 12:00 AM JJBA: Stardust Crusaders 429,000 (81.56%) 12:30 AM Gundam IBO S2 390,000 (90.91%) 1:00 AM Hunter × Hunter 406,000 (104.10%) 1:30 AM Lupin The 3rd 350,000 (86.21%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 367,000 (104.86%) 2:30 AM Outlaw Star HD 310,000 (84.47%) 3:00 AM Cowboy Bebop HD 290,000 (93.55%) 3:30 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 254,000 (87.59%) TOONAMI ADULTS 18-49 AVERAGE - 390,900 That average is actually the HIGHEST we've seen since the block expanded to 4 AM! CURRENT SHOW AVERAGES Total Viewers Dragon Ball Super (Prime Time Premieres) - 827,829 (35 episodes) Dragon Ball Super (Toonami) - 1,016,694 (36 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters - 939,919 (37 episodes) JoJo's Bizarre Adv.: Stardust Crusaders - 656,500 (10 episodes) Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans - 576,000 (1 episode) Hunter × Hunter - 757,551 (69 episodes) Lupin the 3rd - 499,000 (15 episodes) Naruto: Shippuden - 817,523 (177 episodes) Outlaw Star - 435,571 (7 episodes) Cowboy Bebop - 419,400 (5 episodes) Attack on Titan Season 2 Rerun - 340,364 (11 episodes) Adults 18-49 Dragon Ball Super (Prime Time Premieres) - 413,457 (35 episodes) Dragon Ball Super (Toonami) - 616,417 (36 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters - 567,946 (37 episodes) JoJo's Bizarre Adv.: Stardust Crusaders - 404,400 (10 episodes) Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans - 390,000 (1 episode) Hunter × Hunter - 452,768 (69 episodes) Lupin the 3rd - 295,667 (15 episodes) Naruto: Shippuden - 454,417 (160 episodes) Outlaw Star - 265,571 (7 episodes) Cowboy Bebop - 250,800 (5 episodes) Attack on Titan Season 2 Rerun - 239,182 (11 episodes) Adults 18-34 (Estimated) Dragon Ball Super (Prime Time Premieres) - 265,212 (33 episodes) Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters - 383,838 (37 episodes) JoJo's Bizarre Adv.: Stardust Crusaders - 274,889 (9 episodes) Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans - 258,000 (1 episode) Lupin the 3rd - 201,769 (13 episodes)

ShowBuzzDaily updated, so we have more numbers! Yay? :painfap: http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-10-7-2017.html "Adult Swim’s line-up performed as follows: in primetime, DRAGON BALL up 0.02 to 0.36 and up 0.04 to 0.26/670K, and in late night, DRAGON BALL up 0.12 to 0.46/875K and steady at 0.41, JOJO’S BIZARRE ADVENTURES up 0.05 to 0.33, MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM at 0.30, HUNTER X HUNTER up 0.05 to 0.31/590K, LUPIN THE 3RD up 0.02 to 0.27, NARUTO up 0.03 to 0.28/509K, OUTLAW STAR up 0.01 to 0.24/440K, COWBOY BEBOP up 0.01 to 0.22/423K, and ATTACK ON TITAN up 0.02 to 0.20/383K." So, we now have: TOTAL VIEWERS RETENTION 8:00 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 670,000 8:30 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 859,000 (128.21%) 11:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 875,000 11:30 PM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 800,000 (91.43%) 12:00 AM JJBA: Stardust Crusaders 638,000 (79.75%) 12:30 AM Gundam IBO S2 576,000 (90.28%) 1:00 AM Hunter × Hunter 590,000 (102.43%) 1:30 AM Lupin The 3rd 513,000 (86.95%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 509,000 (99.22%) 2:30 AM Outlaw Star HD 440,000 (86.44%) 3:00 AM Cowboy Bebop HD 423,000 (96.14%) 3:30 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 383,000 (90.54%) TOONAMI TOTAL VIEWERS AVERAGE - 574,700 ADULTS 18-49 RETENTION 8:00 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 0.26 8:30 PM Dragon Ball Super (NPOT) 0.36 (138.46%) 11:00 PM Dragon Ball Super 0.46 11:30 PM DBZ Kai: The Final Chapters 0.41 (89.13%) 12:00 AM JJBA: Stardust Crusaders 0.33 (80.49%) 12:30 AM Gundam IBO S2 0.30 (90.91%) 1:00 AM Hunter × Hunter 0.31 (103.33%) 1:30 AM Lupin The 3rd 0.27 (87.10%) 2:00 AM Naruto: Shippuden 0.28 (103.70%) 2:30 AM Outlaw Star HD 0.24 (85.71%) 3:00 AM Cowboy Bebop HD 0.22 (91.67%) 3:30 AM Attack on Titan Season 2 0.20 (90.91%) TOONAMI ADULTS 18-49 AVERAGE - 0.30 So what if Hunter x Hunter punked it, I'm just glad IBO is back on the air for Season 2!

Welp. http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-10-7-2017.html 10/7/2017 Dragon Ball Super (8:30) #15 (-3) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.48 Estimated 18-34 - 326,000 ( 37.95% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.36 Estimated 18-49 - 462,000 ( 53.78% ) Total Viewers - 859,000 10/7/2017 DBZ Kai: Final Chapters #11 (-1) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.54 Estimated 18-34 - 367,000 ( 45.88% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.41 Estimated 18-49 - 526,000 ( 65.75% ) Total Viewers - 800,000 10/7/2017 JJBA: Stardust Crusaders - #17 (+1) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.44 Estimated 18-34 - 299,000 ( 46.87% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.33 Estimated 18-49 - 423,000 ( 66.30% ) Total Viewers - 638,000 10/7/2017 Gundam IBO - #20 (-2) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.38 Estimated 18-34 - 258,000 ( 44.79% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.30 Estimated 18-49 - 385,000 ( 66.84% ) Total Viewers - 576,000 10/7/2017 Lupin the 3rd - #22 (+4) Adults 18-34 Rating - 0.34 Estimated 18-34 - 231,000 ( 45.03% ) Adults 18-49 Rating - 0.27 Estimated 18-49 - 346,000 ( 67.45% ) Total Viewers - 513,000 These days, as 13 x 2, #26 seems to be twice as unlucky for whichever show it happens for, as it was a ratings low for AOT and is now a ratings low for Gundam IBO as well. This is probably the lowest-rated return for a series we've seen yet. The only saving grace is the demos, in which it was up slightly from its timeslot counterpart, as well as Lupin, but DBZ Kai and JoJo were up pretty bigly. At least it's better in total viewers than Gundam Unicorn finished, so yay for Gundam?

Somehow all of my recordings from this weekend cut off the first 3 or so minutes of every show, despite the fact that I was able to watch them unimpeded live. Does anyone else have any such weird problems with DirecTV? Thanks, Nate. |:: ohno shithead Edit: Hunter x Hunter was the last show to get screwed up like this. Lupin recorded correctly. Edit: I was wrong. Shippuden was also screwed up. But I think I got all of Outlaw Star at least. Oddly enough, even though they recorded in HD, the HD logo is strangely missing. So that makes it so far: Unwatchable: Dragon Ball Super (11 PM) Screwed up but watchable: JoJo; Gundam IBO; Hunter x Hunter; Shippuden Intact: Lupin the 3rd; Outlaw Star; Dragon Ball Super (8:30 PM) Unknown: DBZ Kai; Bebop Unrecorded: AOT

Funny, we will probably get the Black Goku arc in Super in 2018, around the same time this movie hits U.S. theaters! The question is, which will land first: the new movie, or the series?

http://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddrink/restaurantsandnews/mcdonalds-szechuan-sauce-will-return-this-winter-after-rick-and-morty-fan-revolt/ar-AAt8HYM?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp I just hope they also run a Rick & Morty marathon during the promotion, maybe Christmas Eve or New Year's Eve (which will be Sundays)? Only problem is most McDonald's close early on holidays, so if you didn't salvage a packet during open hours, you might be SOL. Also why Chik-Fil-A doesn't sponsor events which occur on Sundays!

Hey, I figured that since 10/3 was FMA Day, it might be appropriate!

Maybe, but that isn't the point! Regardless of what you set your personal settings to, everyone should have the same ranking by number of posts. But this list's criteria are compiled under the assumption that everyone has the forum default of 10 posts per page!

Top 8 most discussed on 10/7/17: #8 Naruto Shippuden - only 4 pages :'( #7 Lupin the 3rd - 9 pages #6 Hunter × Hunter - 10 pages #5 Dragon Ball Super - 11 pages #4 Outlaw Star - 12 pages #3 Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters - 13 pages #2 Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans - 14 pages #1 JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Stardust Crusaders - 16 pages "Welcome back!" "Good to be back." Nice return for Gundam IBO, but JoJo shot out the lights!

JJBASC: I'm not going to resort to spoiling myself, and I haven't watched ahead, but I have a theory that Avdol isn't really dead. Remember, Kakyoin's Hierophant Green can manipulate other stands--well what if it can also assimilate them? Fake Kakyoin--A.K.A. Temperance--was defeated last episode, but what if HG got an ability to briefly have the same power? I can't put my finger on it, but I believe somehow Kakyoin is using a fake Avdol to emotionally manipulate Polnareff and teach him a lesson, because he WAS feuding with Avdol before! Also, this is Part 1 of a 2-parter. Just doesn't seem to make much sense that Avdol is dead in Part 2, does it? The only thing that doesn't gel with that theory is that Kakyoin had a bad feeling about the confrontation with Horse and Hanged Man. But maybe the real Avdol really had nothing to do with that? Maybe this "Avdol" is really HG all along, and Polnareff REALLY got played?

JJBASC: I'm not going to resort to spoiling myself, and I haven't watched ahead, but I have a theory that Avdol isn't really dead. Remember, Kakyoin's Hierophant Green can manipulate other stands--well what if it can also assimilate them? Fake Kakyoin--A.K.A. Temperance--was defeated last episode, but what if HG got an ability to briefly have the same power? I can't put my finger on it, but I believe somehow Kakyoin is using a fake Avdol to emotionally manipulate Polnareff and teach him a lesson, because he WAS feuding with Avdol before! Also, this is Part 1 of a 2-parter. Just doesn't seem to make much sense that Avdol is dead in Part 2, does it? The only thing that doesn't gel with that theory is that Kakyoin had a bad feeling about the confrontation with Horse and Hanged Man. But maybe the real Avdol really had nothing to do with that?

Prediction for this: Coming to Toonami during the next Marathon (predicted to be JoJo: Stardust Crusaders). Maybe starting off the block at 11 PM on October 28th, with JoJo marathon following from like 11:20-3:40 with some really strange ending/beginning times for the 8 episodes, and then finally replaying from 3:45-4 AM. Kinda like they did with "Scavengers" last year on Christmas Eve.

Damn, Armin is SADISTIC here!!

Yeah, there was SOOOOOOOOOO much in that first half of the episode that I had forgotten about! I think the idea that Bertholdt and Reiner really want to be their friends, really want to be soldiers who fight the titans, but because they ARE Titan-shifters, they're forced to attack them by more powerful titans, such as the Beast Titan!

What, the Schubert version of "Ave Maria?"