OwlChemist81

I do enjoy it for what it is! And this HAS been my favorite season so far!

Episode 2: A Promise To Mother Casval and Kycillia have formed an unlikely alliance as members of feuding families the Deikuns and Zabis Following the death of Zeon Deikun, intense rioting has broken out in the streets, and Kycillia Zabi has captured his son Casval, but he refuses to come quietly! Was Zeon's death caused by a Zabi, or is there someone else in the shadows who wanted the old visionary removed? And will Ramba Ral get cat-scratch fever from Lucifer? Stay up late with us tonight and find out at 3 AM to begin Toonami's best final hour ever! OPENING THEME (#1) Not enough LUNA SEA for you? Check out this AWESOME 5 MINUTE 35 SECOND video of the whole song!! But there ARE some mild spoilers so I had to cover it up. But besides, we pretty much already know how this story's gonna end, right?? ENDING THEME (#1) SUIT UP AGAIN FOR EPISODE 2 AT 3 AM TONITE (7/13)!! ONLY TOONAMI!!

Guess you win this round... But this just HAS to be part of this thread:

Episode #57 (Season 3, Episode 20): "That Day" Scene cut from the end of the last episode, and this episode's preview!! Back to the days of Young Grisha!! 11:30 PM tonight (7/13) ONLY TOONAMI!!!

We gotta hear something official today; typically the Thursday before the week of the block in question is when they post the schedule to Facebook.

Is this official or just your guess?

But Lupin and Gundam are damn good shows. Sure Lupin is on too early and Gundam too late, but they're good!

I think that's when Demon Slayer comes in to "save" us. We can only hope. I have a feeling sometime in 2020 right before AOT comes back for its final season, this episode will rerun, and it will do better. Or at least that's what I'd say if it were 2012. Now though? Traditional TV is declining fast and streaming is king. I'm really not sure what the future holds for Toonami, but hopefully it at least hangs on to the traditional cable/satellite media long enough to finish Naruto Shippuden in 2024, even if Nielsen ratings are completely dead by then. Just in case you were wondering how Sunday is doing from 8 PM-3 AM, well, it's doing better, but it's not that great. And TV is not a completely dead medium, as these ratings for Nick at Nite's umpteen-run shitcoms illustrate: At least Dragon Ball Super beat Friends at 11 PM, but NAN kicked Toonami's ass hard from there. I think Toonami needs a 2nd weeknight block as an experiment, maybe just for an hour after Final Space on Monday nights at Midnight.

It kinda looks like an ass? I've reconsidered. DBZ Kai reruns might end up at 3:30, and the power hour be cancelled. Then again, they might be trying to use MHA as an anchor, in which case, they might just leave it there, or move it up to 3. It will certainly be interesting. But I don't know if they even have a new show to replace SAO-A. If they do, the fact that it wasn't announced, or rather, couldn't be, at Anime Expo was bizarre.

Yeah, not only was it filler, it was FLASHBACK filler! As in let's all try to grab Kakashi's balls...err...BELLS playing for like the 10th time in the series! *ding ding*

Family Guy just isn't drawing like it used to. It's still growth-positive, but I think it's clear that [as] needs a new hit that's greater than Rick & Morty. This happened on Friday: American Dad (repeat) (ADSM, 8:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.286 million viewers (#83) • 0.24 HH (#67) • 0.12 A18-49 (#60) • 0.10 A18-34 (#46) • 0.14 A25-54 (#65) American Dad (repeat) (ADSM, 8:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.387 million viewers (#70) • 0.31 HH (#47) • 0.17 A18-49 (#33) • 0.14 A18-34 (#17) • 0.18 A25-54 (#46) Family Guy (repeat) (ADSM, 9:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.460 million viewers (#54) • 0.37 HH (#39) • 0.21 A18-49 (#14) • 0.16 A18-34 (#10) • 0.22 A25-54 (#34) Family Guy (repeat) (ADSM, 9:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.537 million viewers (#42) • 0.41 HH (#35) • 0.26 A18-49 (#6) • 0.18 A18-34 (#6) • 0.27 A25-54 (#17) The Boondocks (repeat) (ADSM, 10:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.364 million viewers (#75) • 0.31 HH (#47) • 0.18 A18-49 (#25) • 0.13 A18-34 (#21) • 0.19 A25-54 (#40) The Boondocks (repeat) (ADSM, 10:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.342 million viewers (#78) • 0.29 HH (#54) • 0.17 A18-49 (#33) • 0.13 A18-34 (#21) • 0.19 A25-54 (#40) Read more: https://programminginsider.com/friday-final-ratings-debuts-of-zion-williamson-and-rj-barrett-result-in-record-viewership-for-nba-summer-league-on-espn/ Granted, that's better than most of Toonami, but it's still not anywhere close to what Friday used to be able to do. Back to Toonami (and the Dragon Ball power hour) in key demos: the "power hour" did so unbelievably shitty in both 18-49 and 25-54 that it made Toonami look pretty good by comparison! And while this is once again dead-last block average for the year, it's NOT dead last of all time, unlike the total viewers average. The two marathon nights from last fall actually did worse on average. 7/6/19 - Adults 18-49 Show Viewers Retention DBZ Kai 90,000 DBS (R) 77,000 85.56% DBS (P) 317,000 117.84% AOTS3P2 159,000 50.16% SAO3 171,000 107.55% LupinPt5 121,000 70.76% FoodWars! 112,000 92.56% B. Clover 140,000 125.00% Boruto 144,000 102.86% Shippuden 110,000 76.39% Gundam 114,000 103.64% MHA 142,000 124.56% AVERAGE 153,000 27th of 27 💀

Believe it or not, there is SOME good news: Dragon Ball Z Kai (R) (Adult Swim, 8:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.172 million viewers [#880] • 0.07 A18-49 [#689] • 0.07 A25-54 [#801] Dragon Ball Super (R) (Adult Swim, 8:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.156 million viewers [#910] • 0.06 A18-49 [#815] • 0.07 A25-54 [#812] Rick & Morty (R) (Adult Swim, 9:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.168 million viewers [#886] • 0.07 A18-49 [#707] • 0.07 A25-54 [#771] Rick & Morty (R) (Adult Swim, 9:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.293 million viewers [#614] • 0.14 A18-49 [#202] • 0.13 A25-54 [#356] Family Guy (R) (Adult Swim, 10:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.425 million viewers [#351] • 0.19 A18-49 [#81] • 0.20 A25-54 [#161] Family Guy (R) (Adult Swim, 10:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.486 million viewers [#266] • 0.21 A18-49 [#45] • 0.24 A25-54 [#86] Dragon Ball Super (Adult Swim, 11:00 PM, 30 min.) • 0.529 million viewers [#233] • 0.25 A18-49 [#17] • 0.26 A25-54 [#69] Attack on Titan (Adult Swim, 11:30 PM, 30 min.) • 0.266 million viewers [#676] • 0.12 A18-49 [#277] • 0.13 A25-54 [#376] Sword Art Online: Alicization (Adult Swim, 12:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.248 million viewers [#714] • 0.13 A18-49 [#236] • 0.12 A25-54 [#417] Lupin the 3rd: Part 5 (Adult Swim, 12:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.165 million viewers [#891] • 0.09 A18-49 [#431] • 0.08 A25-54 [#679] Food Wars (P) (Adult Swim, 1:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.155 million viewers [#912] • 0.09 A18-49 [#488] • 0.08 A25-54 [#711] Black Clover (R) (Adult Swim, 1:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.186 million viewers [#863] • 0.11 A18-49 [#347] • 0.11 A25-54 [#469] Boruto: Naruto Next Generations (R) (Adult Swim, 2:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.197 million viewers [#829] • 0.11 A18-49 [#330] • 0.11 A25-54 [#463] Naruto: Shippuden (R) (Adult Swim, 2:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.162 million viewers [#895] • 0.09 A18-49 [#502] • 0.10 A25-54 [#548] Mobile Suit Gundam: Red Comet (P) (Adult Swim, 3:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.154 million viewers [#914] • 0.09 A18-49 [#471] • 0.09 A25-54 [#610] My Hero Academia (R) (Adult Swim, 3:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.201 million viewers [#823] • 0.11 A18-49 [#341] • 0.10 A25-54 [#542] Gemusetto Machu Picchu (R) (Adult Swim, 4:00 AM, 30 min.) • 0.126 million viewers [#965] • 0.07 A18-49 [#620] • 0.08 A25-54 [#718] Ballmastrz: 9009 (R) (Adult Swim, 4:30 AM, 15 min.) • 0.104 million viewers [#988] • 0.07 A18-49 [#699] • 0.06 A25-54 [#879] Tigtone (R) (Adult Swim, 4:45 AM, 15 min.) • 0.099 million viewers [#996] • 0.06 A18-49 [#726] • 0.06 A25-54 [#912] Aqua Teen Hungerforce (R) (Adult Swim, 5:00 AM, 15 min.) • 0.095 million viewers [#998] • 0.06 A18-49 [#767] • 0.06 A25-54 [#935] Aqua Teen Hungerforce (R) (Adult Swim, 5:15 AM, 15 min.) • 0.125 million viewers [#967] • 0.07 A18-49 [#669] • 0.06 A25-54 [#899] Home Movies (R) (Adult Swim, 5:30 AM, 30 min.) • 0.100 million viewers [#994] • 0.06 A18-49 [#748] • 0.05 A25-54 [#967] Read more: https://programminginsider.com/saturday-final-ratings-hbo-premiere-of-bohemian-rhapsody-tops-the-days-cable-telecasts-among-adults-25-54/ As bad as Toonami did, its best show Dragon Ball Super won the night, and it stayed at 0.09 or higher in 18-49 throughout its run. That's good enough to remain over 100K viewers. After Toonami? Good God, those numbers are awful! If Toonami could take over the rest of the night with reruns again, it probably should. Then again, if [as] originals are cheaper, that would make a difference.

Because of the actors, I have a strange feeling lately that this MIGHT actually get on as the first show on the block. Emphasis on "MIGHT". That would be ONE way to handle the issue that the first episode will have an irregular run time. Toss on an episode of a 15-minute show between Dragon Ball Super's encore and Rick & Morty (beginning at 9:15), follow that by a Family Guy or two, and begin Toonami with gen:LOCK's first episode at either 10:15 or 10:45. The rest of the shows would air at the top or bottom of the hour as normal, but at this point, I'm not really sure that matters anymore.

Welp, here we are again. Ratings even further in the toilet and yet another question mark at midnight in only 10 days! Hopefully they fill it with something good, but I fear Toonami will contract by 30 minutes this time.

The real question is: can gen:LOCK do any better than this? And we still don't know what's coming at Midnight on July 20th to replace SAO-A...

To be fair, THREE shows made that sheet this time! Not much better, but yay for SAO, I guess?? http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-7-6-2019.html We have an update, and the non-reported shows did better, making Gundam the lowest timeslot on Toonami, at least in terms of total viewers, but fortunately NOT the lowest on [as], as Gemusetto Machu Picchu actually did worse: "DRAGON BALL at 0.25 and 0.07/172K & 0.06/156K, compared to last week’s 0.27 and 0.08/249K & 0.09/253K, ATTACK ON TITAN down 0.03 to 0.12, SWORD ART ONLINE up 0.01 to 0.13, LUPIN THE 3RD down 0.03 to 0.09, FOOD WARS at 0.09, BLACK CLOVER up 0.01 to 0.11/186K, BORUTO up 0.02 to 0.11/197K, NARUTO up 0.01 to 0.09/162K, MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM at 0.09, MY HERO ACADEMIA (in a much later timeslot) down 0.12 to 0.09/201K, and GEMUSETTO MACHU PICCHU steady at 0.07/126K." 7/6/19 - Total Viewers Show Viewers Retention DBZ Kai 172,000 DBS (R) 156,000 90.70% TOONAMI DBS (P) 529,000 AOTS3P2 266,000 50.28% SAO3 248,000 93.23% LupinPt5 165,000 66.53% FoodWars! 155,000 93.94% B. Clover 186,000 120.00% Boruto 197,000 105.91% Shippuden 162,000 82.23% Gundam 154,000 95.06% MHA 201,000 130.52% AVERAGE 226,300 27th of 27 💀 Yes, folks. This is by far the worst ratings average a Toonami block has had yet. Reading between the lines, AOT was the worst retainer in 18-49, but Food Wars! was the turkey of the night, since even Gundam edged it out. These ratings make it clear. In the 7/20 re-shuffle, Black Clover and Boruto need a boost to the Midnight hour, or maybe MHA. Giving anything else a push would be like throwing pepperoni slices at the wall and hoping they stick. And as for the long-term? Hopefully Toonami learned their lesson from this and goes with marathons on 4th of July weekend from here on out, but since Saturday falls on the 4th, 3rd, and 2nd of July in 2020, 2021, and 2022 respectively, I doubt it will be much of an issue.

Oh yeah, Gundam's future on Toonami and in the U.S. is bright! And it's weird that I'm using a 3 AM timeslot rated just above 150K and a 0.09 as evidence of that, but here we are. Perhaps this Gundam LA will be accompanied by a co-produced remake of the original Mobile Suit Gundam with the animation style of Gundam: The Origin! That would be a winning formula for synergy!

Looking at the numbers, damn, you may be right! Boruto was CONSISTENTLY over 500K from January to March, and then when they moved it down on April 13th, MHA did well for a while, but it fell below 500K on April 27th for the first time and couldn't get back over 600K. Then AOT, despite its hype, couldn't get above 500K, though it was admittedly hamstrung by the weaker lead-in from MHA and DBS. In fact, this is what I would prescribe for July 20th and after: 11 PM DBS 11:30 Boruto 12 AM AOT 12:30 MHA 1 AM Black Clover 1:30 Gundam 2 AM Lupin III Part 5 2:30 Food Wars 3 AM Shippuden

Welp, http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-saturday-cable-originals-network-finals-7-6-2019.html Thought Family Guy leading-in to Dragon Ball Super once again would help Toonami's ratings? THINK AGAIN! And it's such a shame because I think that episode was from 2013 or something, so it was fairly fresh. Even dumber is the fact that we're losing Family Guy completely to Freeform next year. I can't believe Attack on Titan dropped the ball from #5 all the way to #46, and NOT EVEN HALF the viewers 18-49! About half the total viewers too. Sword Art Online: Alicization DID recover slightly from there. But what about Lupin, Food Wars!, Boruto, and Gundam? Well: 57 LUPIN THE 3RD: PART 5 ADULT SWIM 12:30 AM 30 0.09 165 62 MOBILE SUIT GUNDAM:RED CM ADULT SWIM 3:00 AM 30 0.09 154 64 FOOD WARS ADULT SWIM 1:00 AM 30 0.09 155 Gundam beat food wars in 18-49, LMAO! But all 3 shows couldn't even muster a full 0.1 in Adults 18-49. And I'm not sure if Boruto just did so badly it didn't make the Top 150, or if it simply wasn't included because of a mistake this time. This is indubitably Toonami's worst week yet in its existence. It HAS to go up from here, right?? Will Toonami's summer of pain continue? No major UFC event this week, but Live PD is back from break, so I guess it's out of the frying pan, and into the fire...

Hey, if I can accept Nazi overtones in Fullmetal Alchemist, Black Lagoon, Hellsing Ultimate, and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, I can accept them in this!

7/6/19, counting down from 10-1: #10 - Boruto #09 - Naruto Shippuden #08 - Food Wars! #07 - Dragon Ball Super #06 - Black Clover #05 - SAO: Alicization #04 - My Hero Academia #03 - Attack on Titan #02 - Lupin III Part 5 #01 - Gundam: The Origin

Cool! This thread finally got to 5 pages! I thought the episode where they finally get to see what's in the titular "Basement" deserved it! It looks like Episode 57 will start with a large flashback too...

SO FAR, IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS ALL WE HAVE FOR THE COMING WEEK: SWORD ART ONLINE: ALICIZATION (PART 1 SEASON FINALE) - MIDNIGHT

Weird--the video I posted Saturday night got deleted but Elfie's horrible fansubs still remain! Of course the Toonami Facebook official dubbed version shall remain FOR ALL ETERNITY!!!

Apparently we stay with this flashback for a lot of Episode 57, according to the rarely-seen preview!