DangerMouse Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Yup, it's a trap. He's gonna have to put that friendship to the test....oh boy.... Quote
ben0119 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 I wonder if Rin ever did become a Paladin. Or maybe he wasn't that serious about it. The manga is STILL going, guys. I know it's in a monthly manga magazine, but still. This is like the manga version of Supernatural, I swear. No one talks about it or knows it's still going, but it is. 😄 1 Quote
DangerMouse Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Sawano channeling his eventual Gundam Unicorn style early here 1 Quote
DangerMouse Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Uh oh, he's done a lot of damage to his sword. 1 Quote
ben0119 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 More begrudging compliments from Bon haha. Remember, you started this, Amaimon! Stop talking all high and mighty, Mephisto. Captured by a cuckoo clock? So what does it mean now that Rin destroyed it? Amaimon is dead or just trapped forever? Quote
ben0119 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Rin has gone feral and the sword is cracking! Brother, ah hell. Shiemi waking up just in time. Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted February 23 Author Posted February 23 5 minutes ago, DangerMouse said: Sawano channeling his eventual Gundam Unicorn style early here This is from 2011, and I believe that started in 2014, so that checks. Does he score the new seasons? 1 Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted February 23 Author Posted February 23 4 minutes ago, ben0119 said: More begrudging compliments from Bon haha. Remember, you started this, Amaimon! Stop talking all high and mighty, Mephisto. Captured by a cuckoo clock? So what does it mean now that Rin destroyed it? Amaimon is dead or just trapped forever? I think he comes back later in this season. Quote
DangerMouse Posted February 23 Posted February 23 (edited) 17 minutes ago, ben0119 said: Ok. But it's weird to do that and then divert the main story and then not do a second season for many years. Should've just done a noncommittal filler arc. Wouldn't be difficult with this kind of show. Yeah, at least they finally did and just retcon away all the filler by picking up where the diverged. All I can think of is that at the time a filler arc could have ended the season, but the real issue was even after a long filler arc there would still be no more manga to adapt and it would take a massive break for enough manga to resume and long breaks between seasons weren't as common yet back then. So they probably would have had to do a Naruto and make at least a year+ long filler arc. Though, like you said, this show would have been well suited for some noncommittal filler arcs. Nowadays they would have just ended the season and waited. Edited February 23 by DangerMouse Quote
ben0119 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 25 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said: I think he comes back later in this season. But that's filler by then probably? Quote
DangerMouse Posted February 23 Posted February 23 (edited) Since we're at the spot where the divergence begins and there are already a few things in this ep (but especially starting the next) we'll have to remember don't happen when S2 starts this seems to be a good visual aid: https://imgur.com/a/ao-no-exorcist-s2-retcon-Y7Kfo Edited February 23 by DangerMouse 1 Quote
ben0119 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 24 minutes ago, DangerMouse said: Yeah, at least they finally did and just retcon away all the filler by picking up where the diverged. All I can think of is that at the time a filler arc could have ended the season, but the real issue was even after a long filler arc there would still be no more manga to adapt and it would take a massive break for enough manga to resume and long breaks between seasons weren't as common yet back then. So they probably would have had to do a Naruto and make at least a year+ long filler arc. Though, like you said, this show would have been well suited for some noncommittal filler arcs. Nowadays they would have just ended the season and waited. Well I figured the anime could just do a noncommittal filler arc and end the season, then come back when enough material is available. Did they do this because they assumed they wouldn't make another season? Quote
DangerMouse Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Just now, ben0119 said: Well I figured the anime could just do a noncommittal filler arc and end the season, then come back when enough material is available. Did they do this because they assumed they wouldn't make another season? Yeah, probably a combination of both. I agree filler arcs would have made sense to me too, except they started the adaptation so early they caught up so fast (only 16 episodes into the show). Others have mentioned this was probably because the manga had gotten really big quickly and back then anime was often seen as advertisement for the manga. The big reason I'd guess was that (similar to original FMA) at the time we didn't really see ongoing shows take multi-year breaks for the manga to get ahead again between seasons like we do now (hence Naruto's infamous very long filler arcs for example) and there was supposedly only enough material for about another half season left that supposedly wouldn't have ended in a good place. So I think you're right that they probably assumed that they wouldn't make another season since they'd probably have to wait a few years for enough manga, and back then waits of a few years between seasons weren't really a thing. Quote
DangerMouse Posted February 23 Posted February 23 Now that I think about it, due to how incredibly early they started the adaptation it's also true they ran out of manga so early that when you think about it it's possible they also thought that filler would be difficult since they hadn't even reached the backstories for the other team members yet so it's not like they could easily do filler stories touching on the other characters yet either, since we're still getting to know them. Quote
ben0119 Posted February 23 Posted February 23 1 hour ago, DangerMouse said: Yeah, probably a combination of both. I agree filler arcs would have made sense to me too, except they started the adaptation so early they caught up so fast (only 16 episodes into the show). Others have mentioned this was probably because the manga had gotten really big quickly and back then anime was often seen as advertisement for the manga. The big reason I'd guess was that (similar to original FMA) at the time we didn't really see ongoing shows take multi-year breaks for the manga to get ahead again between seasons like we do now (hence Naruto's infamous very long filler arcs for example) and there was supposedly only enough material for about another half season left that supposedly wouldn't have ended in a good place. So I think you're right that they probably assumed that they wouldn't make another season since they'd probably have to wait a few years for enough manga, and back then waits of a few years between seasons weren't really a thing. I see what you're saying, but this wasn't an ongoing series, was it? It's a simple 25 episode single season. But man, I really hate that, when the anime is used as advertisement for the source material, with no intention of making more seasons. I'd really rather watch an anime than read a manga or light novel, so that really pisses me off. And long-ish breaks were rare back, then, eh? Yeah, if they wanted to continue it in some form or fashion, it shouldn't have started so soon after the manga did. Quote
DangerMouse Posted Sunday at 06:05 AM Posted Sunday at 06:05 AM (edited) On 2/23/2025 at 1:31 AM, OwlChemist81 said: Does he score the new seasons? Yes! He returned with his still current regular collaborator Kohta Yamamoto. He's the one who joined Attack on Titan to score the last few seasons with Sawano. Edited Sunday at 06:10 AM by DangerMouse Quote
CorbeauKarasu Posted Sunday at 06:06 AM Posted Sunday at 06:06 AM nobody stopped her?!! way to drop the ball, guys! but for once, the rampage stopping hug isn't annoying 1 Quote
DangerMouse Posted Sunday at 06:08 AM Posted Sunday at 06:08 AM Badmouthing Fujimoto, bad move. Quote
CorbeauKarasu Posted Sunday at 06:09 AM Posted Sunday at 06:09 AM Lucifer, you got some 'splaining to do!! Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted Sunday at 06:10 AM Author Posted Sunday at 06:10 AM Just now, DangerMouse said: Into the FILLER WE GO! When did it start? Quote
ben0119 Posted Sunday at 06:10 AM Posted Sunday at 06:10 AM How long is that Common Side Effects show going to be on Toonami? Why is it on Toonami? I have 0 interest in it. I gotta say, the block isn't looking so good. Reminds me of the worst days of the Adult Swim Action block. We have a 10 year old half filler rerun, FLCL bastardized spin-off rerun, ill-fitting comedy show, new old episodes of One Piece as our only premiere, Dragon Ball Z Kai, we have Naruto AGAIN, and Sailor Moon. Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted Sunday at 06:10 AM Author Posted Sunday at 06:10 AM Isn't there still some Canon after this? Quote
CorbeauKarasu Posted Sunday at 06:10 AM Posted Sunday at 06:10 AM the power isn't the point...as twins, HE WOULD ALSO BE THE SON OF SATAN 1 1 Quote
DangerMouse Posted Sunday at 06:11 AM Posted Sunday at 06:11 AM (edited) 3 minutes ago, OwlChemist81 said: When did it start? During that battle. For example, Rin never cuts that gate with his sword so it's not broken. From what I understand, this episode is part canon, mostly filler and this isn't how we get Rin's classmate's real reactions to his reveal. Edited Sunday at 06:14 AM by DangerMouse 1 Quote
ben0119 Posted Sunday at 06:11 AM Posted Sunday at 06:11 AM You know, the "feral mode" trope is really overdone haha. Goku, Naruto, Ichigo, Rin, Asta all have it, and I'm sure others. Quote
CorbeauKarasu Posted Sunday at 06:12 AM Posted Sunday at 06:12 AM has he mentioned this before??? Quote
CorbeauKarasu Posted Sunday at 06:13 AM Posted Sunday at 06:13 AM 1 minute ago, DangerMouse said: During that battle. For example, Rin never cuts that gate with his sword so it's not broken. that's really filler? wait, does that mean that the rest of the series is not manga canon? Quote
CorbeauKarasu Posted Sunday at 06:13 AM Posted Sunday at 06:13 AM how is that monstrous, exactly? Quote
ben0119 Posted Sunday at 06:13 AM Posted Sunday at 06:13 AM I just watched Princess Resurrection a few months ago. That track that was used earlier sounded like it could've come from that show. Quote
DangerMouse Posted Sunday at 06:14 AM Posted Sunday at 06:14 AM 3 minutes ago, CorbeauKarasu said: the power isn't the point...as twins, HE WOULD ALSO BE THE SON OF SATAN Yup! Quote
ben0119 Posted Sunday at 06:14 AM Posted Sunday at 06:14 AM Why is Memphisto even allowed to be in the organization in the first place? Quote
ben0119 Posted Sunday at 06:15 AM Posted Sunday at 06:15 AM 4 minutes ago, CorbeauKarasu said: the power isn't the point...as twins, HE WOULD ALSO BE THE SON OF SATAN Are they like cats and can be born at the same time and have different fathers? 🤣 1 Quote
DangerMouse Posted Sunday at 06:17 AM Posted Sunday at 06:17 AM (edited) 9 minutes ago, CorbeauKarasu said: that's really filler? wait, does that mean that the rest of the series is not manga canon? Yes, the rest of the season (episodes 17-25) is all not canon. This is the last ep that had any content from the manga. From what I understand, Season 2 picks up from where we left off right after this battle with Amaimon and ignores the rest of this (and retcons one or two things like the sword not being broken) to get back to manga canon. Mixed Canon Episodes: 1-3, 16-17 Manga Canon Episodes: 4-5, 7-10, 12-15 Filler Episodes: 6, 11, 18-25 Edited Sunday at 06:22 AM by DangerMouse 2 Quote
ben0119 Posted Sunday at 06:19 AM Posted Sunday at 06:19 AM 6 minutes ago, DangerMouse said: During that battle. For example, Rin never cuts that gate with his sword so it's not broken. https://www.animefillerlist.com/shows/blue-exorcist/gamble Anime Filler List puts 16 and 17 as mixed canon/filler. The filler here must really throw things off and isn't just extended battles and whatnot then. 😄 1 Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted Sunday at 06:19 AM Author Posted Sunday at 06:19 AM I think Episode 18 may be, but it ends differently? Quote
OwlChemist81 Posted Sunday at 06:20 AM Author Posted Sunday at 06:20 AM Just now, ben0119 said: https://www.animefillerlist.com/shows/blue-exorcist/gamble Anime Filler List puts 16 and 17 as mixed canon/filler. The filler here must really throw things off and isn't just extended battles and whatnot then. 😄 Oh, by like Episode 21, we're already way off track! 1 Quote
ben0119 Posted Sunday at 06:20 AM Posted Sunday at 06:20 AM Childhood Friend Alert! There's hope for Bon yet! I hope this girl isn't filler. 😄 Quote
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