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JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part 5: Golden Wind Episode 25 Discussion


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1 minute ago, CorbeauKarasu said:

i hope you're being sarcastic, because that's not even remotely how that works...

The names aren't being used for the same purpose or product, so it shouldn't conflict, and like I said, real IP can be referenced in shows and movies and such.  Like when they talked about Back to the Future in Avengers End Game, or hell, the tons of things that reference Star Wars.  And it was able to be done in Japan.  Japan isn't some wild west of copyright law.

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https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/review/jojo-bizarre-adventure-golden-wind/episode-25/.145468

3.5 stars. Keep your eye on that Kellen Goff dude! He voiced Overhaul in MHA, and his performance was apparently so good it led to him being cast as late night Toonami baddies the Devil in Black Clover and the Boss in JoJo, whose name will be revealed next episode...

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Feels like Japanese productions have an easier time getting the rights to use western brands in anime than the western localization companies, maybe due to how big anime is.

Like the whole Pizza Hut Japan sponsorship with Code Geass.

 

And I still have no clue how Banpresto manages to get all of those different companies to agree to licensing so many different series for Super Robot Wars! lol.

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2 minutes ago, DangerMouse said:

Feels like Japanese productions have an easier time getting the rights to use western brands than the western companies, maybe due to how big anime is.

Like the whole Pizza Hut sponsorship with Code Geass.

 

And I still have no clue how Banpresto manages to get all of those different companies to agree to licensing so many different series for Super Robot Wars! lol.

Branding in cartoons that target children became illegal in the west after the whole joe camel thing. So no matter the product if it's a show meant for kids then it can't have direct advertising linked with brands in it. Japan doesn't have to abide to the FCC so they can avoid it.

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Just now, HardcoreHunter said:

Branding in cartoons that target children became illegal in the west after the whole joe camel thing. So no matter the product if it's a show meant for kids then it can't have direct advertising linked with brands in it. Japan doesn't have to abide to the FCC so they can avoid it.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that regarding a Pizza Hut style thing.

But is that why they had to change the names from the famous ones that directly reference singers/songs? That feels more like preemptive copyright reasons, so as to not take a chance for the US releases.

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1 minute ago, DangerMouse said:

Oh yeah, I forgot about that regarding a Pizza Hut style thing.

But is that why they had to change the names from the famous ones that directly reference singers/songs? That feels more like preemptive copyright reasons, so as to not take a chance for the US releases.

Likeness rights can be confusing. Like if I made an anime that had a drawing of Hulk Hogan in it, called the character Hulk Hogan, and got a voice actor to sound like Hulk Hogan. Then I could get sued by Hulk Hogan's people. This is because they could argue that I had stolen his likeness and the only reason the series is being watched at all is due to Hulk Hogan being in it. The other issue is merchandising. If I want to have Hulk Hogan on a shirt or model kit, I'd have to pay him money for it. However if we give the character a different name it becomes more difficult to prove that the likeness is nothing more than a coincidence. It's just a bunch of dumb red tape that many studios don't want to bother with even when they can get away with it. 

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4 hours ago, HardcoreHunter said:

Likeness rights can be confusing. Like if I made an anime that had a drawing of Hulk Hogan in it, called the character Hulk Hogan, and got a voice actor to sound like Hulk Hogan. Then I could get sued by Hulk Hogan's people. This is because they could argue that I had stolen his likeness and the only reason the series is being watched at all is due to Hulk Hogan being in it. The other issue is merchandising. If I want to have Hulk Hogan on a shirt or model kit, I'd have to pay him money for it. However if we give the character a different name it becomes more difficult to prove that the likeness is nothing more than a coincidence. It's just a bunch of dumb red tape that many studios don't want to bother with even when they can get away with it. 

Ok yeah, that's what I figured.

That likeness licensing rights part was the part that I was wondering about (so I shouldn't have mixed in the sponsorship example)  in that at least from the outside it feels like it's harder or very effort intensive for the relatively smaller western (home market) anime localization companies to try to get those licenses or agreements from western famous people so the localization companies try to avoid or write around them since it's either not possible or too prohibitively expensive to license.

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11 hours ago, HardcoreHunter said:

Branding in cartoons that target children became illegal in the west after the whole joe camel thing. So no matter the product if it's a show meant for kids then it can't have direct advertising linked with brands in it. Japan doesn't have to abide to the FCC so they can avoid it.

Ichigo: "Did that American launch for Taco Aizen go through?"

Aizen: "No. Because I guess snotty lil kids frequent our restaurants, and there's some ... law over there that doesn't allow them to be exposed to nicotine through product placement. Americans can be quite stuck up, I do say."

Ichigo: "And yet kids are allowed to go Hooters."

Aizen: "Smooth move."

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