Naraku4656 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 6k pay cut for total comp. think i'll pass 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
🍬Candy🍬 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Me too For the same fucking job i already have lol I dont even know why she emailed me. Pissed me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 it's too bad too, the company is really well rated but i can't take that kind of decrease 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 the salary was higher but the benefits weren't as good. it's been very hard to find a company that has better benefits. even at places i haven't gotten offers from, their benefits have been really crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
🍬Candy🍬 Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said: the salary was higher but the benefits weren't as good. it's been very hard to find a company that has better benefits. even at places i haven't gotten offers from, their benefits have been really crap. What benefits? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 2, 2019 Author Share Posted July 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, 🍬Candy🍬 said: What benefits? so the healthcare/vision would be more expensive, dental is about the same, 401k match is way worse, PTO is the same (25 days) but less carryover but they do buy back PTO which is nice. no legal benefits. bonus is about the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 idk i'll ask someone who has been in the industry longer than me @Cancer what do you think. higher salary but a 6k cut in total comp, but a better commute and a better work environment. or higher comp, lower salary. ok commute and you're 24x7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 @Ginguy good idea or nah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said: idk i'll ask someone who has been in the industry longer than me @Cancer what do you think. higher salary but a 6k cut in total comp, but a better commute and a better work environment. or higher comp, lower salary. ok commute and you're 24x7 At your age, never go backwards. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Cancer said: At your age, never go backwards. imma send you a dm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cancer Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Naraku4656 said: imma send you a dm Ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cancer said: Ok sent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 58 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said: so the healthcare/vision would be more expensive, dental is about the same, 401k match is way worse, PTO is the same (25 days) but less carryover but they do buy back PTO which is nice. no legal benefits. bonus is about the same. Premiums, co-pays or both on the insurance? 401k is a sticking point, but if you can adjust your budget to compensate it isn't necessarily bad. (just pray Trump is re-elected or you're fucked) you shouldn't need legal benefits. If the new job is a shorter commute and better environment it might be worth the switch, particularly if it adds to your scope of work skills. Seems like a your call kind of thing, but I wouldn't go backwards in job title or responsibilities, you need to be adding to that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 Just now, Quackers said: Why not attempt negotiating it would have to be at least 8-10k more than they're offering right now in order to even be on par after all benefit costs have been taken out. i told them i'd call them back on monday because of the holiday but i don't think they're going to go for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 Just now, Ginguy said: Premiums, co-pays or both on the insurance? 401k is a sticking point, but if you can adjust your budget to compensate it isn't necessarily bad. (just pray Trump is re-elected or you're fucked) you shouldn't need legal benefits. If the new job is a shorter commute and better environment it might be worth the switch, particularly if it adds to your scope of work skills. Seems like a your call kind of thing, but I wouldn't go backwards in job title or responsibilities, you need to be adding to that now. it would be premiums, deductible, AND copay cost raise. i wouldn't go backwards in title but it wouldn't be going forwards either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said: it would be premiums, deductible, AND copay cost raise. i wouldn't go backwards in title but it wouldn't be going forwards either How much do you really use your insurance? If it is "just when I'm really sick" then it isn't a big deal, if it is "I'll die without my pills" then it might be worth looking into coverage and costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ginguy said: How much do you really use your insurance? If it is "just when I'm really sick" then it isn't a big deal, if it is "I'll die without my pills" then it might be worth looking into coverage and costs. i have an appointment with a dermatologist in about two weeks, i had an appointment with an ophthalmologist a few months back so i do use it. not "i'll die without my pills" but "hey i'm not worried about going to the doctor and asking a question because the copay is only $50" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 If the doctors are still in network just put away a little more for planned appointments. You can always do some freelance work as well, as long as it isn't in violation of non-competition policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Ginguy said: If the doctors are still in network just put away a little more for planned appointments. You can always do some freelance work as well, as long as it isn't in violation of non-competition policies. the kind of work i do there really isn't any way to do freelancing. though i have thought about it. i think the doctors would still be in network, but the problem is still that i'd be getting paid less overall. i'm leaning towards "no" on this mostly because of benefits. also if i was going to go that route, i could cut in half the amount i pay in healthcare now and take a $300 deductible for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginguy Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, Naraku4656 said: the kind of work i do there really isn't any way to do freelancing. though i have thought about it. i think the doctors would still be in network, but the problem is still that i'd be getting paid less overall. i'm leaning towards "no" on this mostly because of benefits. also if i was going to go that route, i could cut in half the amount i pay in healthcare now and take a $300 deductible for the year. If the benefits are that important. What about mobility, can you move upward at your current position easier than at the other position? If you can't move upward in the next two years at your current employer but could at the other, then take the short-term hit for the long term gain. Or not. You gotta pay the mortgage after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, Ginguy said: If the benefits are that important. What about mobility, can you move upward at your current position easier than at the other position? If you can't move upward in the next two years at your current employer but could at the other, then take the short-term hit for the long term gain. Or not. You gotta pay the mortgage after all. so either place has the same mobility. i don't think i could move upwards in 2 years either way, maybe 4 because of the recent change in roles. yeah i do need to live lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 This is the most worst naraku thread yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 1 minute ago, Poof said: This is the most worst naraku thread yet why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poof Posted July 3, 2019 Share Posted July 3, 2019 Just now, Naraku4656 said: why Idk I thought it sounded good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku4656 Posted July 3, 2019 Author Share Posted July 3, 2019 8 minutes ago, Poof said: Idk I thought it sounded good why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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