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Oh okay. I never watched them. I thought there was more than 2 and I thought one of them got disavowed and canceled or something?

You mean he laid out their goal, but it isn't necessarily his? It sure sounded like he agreed with it. We also already heard the spiel about killing everyone and turning the Earth into another Sun from other people. It's dumb and doesn't make any sense. I guess the cult is just meant to be that irrational, I don't know. But it makes them kind of lame as villains.

Some sort of 80s style music with weird animal characters?

This cult's motivation and goal makes no sense.

Penguin helmet, really?

Giovanni laughing and then surprised LOL.

Fuckin scumbag Giovanni.

How come the white clad outfits makes it look like they don't have feet?

Giovanni not going to explain to the heroes or us how the bugs work.

LOL good job Asta comparing it to bed wetting. You stepped in it now!

Hahaha arguing over that, then Mereoleona and Fuegolion started fighting. Eh, wouldn't a servant be cleaning up Mimosa and her brother's house?

It might have been 39. 38 and 39 are sort of a two-parter. That captain's meeting where Yami is making fun of everyone. Classic stuff. Then the Orca captain gets exposed as a traitor and Wizard King sends the Black Bulls on the mission to the underwater place.

Oh that's right, Gray can transform other people and things now. Why is Gauche only allowed to see his sister once a month? Is it because of his criminal record?

Anybody know if this backstory for Teresa is canon? The last few episodes are anime canon (whatever that means,) but this one is labeled as straight up filler, according to Anime Filler List. This filler arc was announced to fill in a time skip from the manga and has involvement from the mangaka. So are the episodes related to that arc are "anime canon" and episodes like this are filler for that? So filler for the filler?? https://www.animefillerlist.com/shows/black-clover/those-who-have-been-gathered https://comicbook.com/anime/news/black-clover-announces-first-original-anime-arc-/

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Called her a hideous hag! What an asshole!

LOL I knew it wouldn't something that serious.

I had re-watched episode 38 recently. The title was 3 leaf salute. Yami salutes the Wizard King, which is something he doesn't do often apparently. I had no idea that weird salute was meant to be three leaves of a clover this whole time.

Remember they made a change of policy and started airing NON-ACTION shows a while ago. Like Pop Team Epic and Food Wars. I think this show counts as action though.

You talk about ham-fisted writing in Black Clover before (which is intentional, and One Piece isn't exactly subtle, either,) but the Gundam franchise in general is ham-fisted with its anti-war message, and comes off as pretentious. Then you have cliche tropes like people from opposite sides of the war falling in love. Amuro and Banagher being crybaby bitches. Most characters are either bitches or scumbags, so why would I care if any of them die or whole cities or colonies get wiped out? War is bad. We all know that. But lets keep making series after series about it so we can sell more action figures and model kits. G Gundam was fun because it was over-the-top, silly, and cartoonish. There was a Gundam with a sombrero and another one with a windmill. And who can get BURNING FINGER! The first season, at least, of IBO, wasn't too bad, because the protagonist isn't a bitch. The second season is horrible because of characters being dumb and falling for obvious tricks, forced deaths, characters being gunned down by goons instead of dying in well done battles, and the ending. I would rather watch any Robetech series over Gundam any day of the week. But Black Clover seems to be making fun of the tropes, and itself, at times. If that's not parody, it's pretty close. Why would the writers put in an obnoxious scene just for the sake of it? Rivals get into arguments in other shonens, but not in such a childish, simplistic way like that. It definitely comes off as making fun of the trope, if not parody. I have a photographic, elephantine memory. I'm especially going to remember when someone says something as asinine as that. I wasn't sure if it was in this forum or ASMB, but I did a search and it was here, and the post was still here. You still defended Ivankov as being portrayed well, and I just told you why he wasn't. Sorry I didn't get back to the thread sooner. Plans just didn't work out like I'd hoped, heh. I'll also consciously choose not to go on forums or social media etc if I'm tired, and/or might be in a bad mood, so I don't get fed up with people and possibly say something nasty. I used to just quote multiple posts in a single reply, since I used to not like multi-posting, either. But, isn't that even more unreadable than separate posts? I think separate posts are cleaner and easier to read and potentially reply to than one post quoting and replying to multiple people. It's not minutia. If there is something I want to respond to, I'm going to respond to it, especially if the person was replying to me or referring to me. You did not read what I said correctly. I was referring to the okamas introduced earlier in the series, not the ones you talked about in the spoiler part of the post, which I said didn't sound bad. If you're trying to say those earlier okamas are decent representations, then you really don't know any better, regardless of being queer. Or you just can't stand to admit a series and author you like would do such a thing. Of course, there is also the whole concept some people have, that if a movie, tv show, etc had something insensitive or possibly even bigoted in it, it is wholly abhorrent and must be disregarded. It has to be banished and the people involved in its creation fired and canceled, or at the very least given a disclaimer. But no one is going to do that to a fanboy favorite like One Piece, are they? They won't even drop the series. Not to mention they are unlikely to have success against such a target, given it's Japanese. Self-aware, and also making fun of the tropes, and the show makes fun of itself to an extent. Asta saying "not using magic is my whole identity," is a prime example of the show making fun of itself. Does it have to be referencing and making fun of something from a specific series and not making fun of general concepts and tropes to be considered a parody? I didn't think that was the case. I granted that some Mary Sues probably exist. Maybe Yugi or Alucard? Yugi will always have some random card that we never saw before that is perfectly suited to the current situation, and almost never loses. Alucard is OP as fuck and has only one major weakness, which is contrived and never explained why or how that catboy has his weakness. He has his weakness because he does. But no one cares because both Yugi and Alucard are fun to watch. People called Kirito a Mary Sue because he put a computer together and got good at videogames by playing them a lot and level-grinding. Really? Especially when computers are like fucking Legos these days. It wouldn't have been hard at all for Kirito build a computer. The stuff he is "unrealistically" good at is base level nerdy shut-in gamer stuff. There you go again treading MAL as some ultimate authority. Ok lol. I would have to ask the author, or someone else would. No way to know for sure unless the author could confirm one way or another. I still think, even if not outright parody, the show is not trying to be 100% serious a lot of the time and is definitely self-aware of the tropes, making fun of them, and itself. See at least you are more admitting to what the show is doing. Black Clover is doing all that stuff, but other people will just say it's a dumb show. Bobobo is definitely a parody. So was Duel Masters. That may have been gag dub, though.

Well, if a bunch of the students leave Class E or it's disbanded, the whole setup falls apart.

Evil societal manipulator principal! LOL at that image of how the confrontation supposedly went down.

Tested on Naruto??

Lots of clever counters, big twists and reveals, and yet another evil cliffhanger! I'm going to have to re-watch this though, since I got distracted.

Uh, can we have actual proof of this? There, I posted the actual link with embed -