ben0119

Dude, JoJo is the best! Besides, if you could follow KLK's pacing you should be able to follow that. Trust me, Gundam Unicorn wouldn't be any easier to follow if you had any background on the franchise. Only time the show makes any sense are during the recaps. Plus Banagher is the worst. I finally had to drop Hiatus a while back because it just wasn't getting any better for me. The show squeezed out every ounce of caring I had about any of those characters. So, I like Dragonball, JoJo, Gundam has cool battles and looks pretty but it's difficult to follow and the main character is annoying, Hiatus I don't watch, Naruto is torture I continue to watch for the train wreck aspect just to see if it gets as bad as everyone claims (it hasn't disappointed so far, lol). I love GitS. One Piece was one of the shows you could always count on to have a good episode if other shows underwhelmed, and especially helps you get over the pain of Naruto. Just a good way to end the night. To replace that with edgelord nonsense on par with Akame Ga Kill... bleh. I definitely don't enjoy nearly all of the block as I had in the past and replacing One Piece with Tokyo Ghoul certainly won't help that.

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Oh wow. > We should take him even less seriously than before then. >

One Piece is for kids. Besides, they get away with quite a bit on Rebels.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHi-XRtAtSs It could join Disney 's anime block > I've still got the TV on that channel after Rebels ended and they've been playing this promo incessantly!

More like The Powers That Be at Adult Swim. Toonami staff can go to bat for One Piece to a certain extent, but there's only so much the network will tolerate before they are forced do what has to be done.

I'm surprised he hasn't pulled a Chris Benoit yet.

I see. That sounds better than watching it by myself. Let me know what you guys come up with.

NOOOOOOOO I MISSED EVERYTHING! I didn't get to be here live for the self-destruction of Moose! And oh shit, I better be good now.

That spiritual successor to Mr. Rogers, Daniel Tiger's Neighborhood, is a better show than Hiatus.

Which is what you did to Bleach fans when the anime and manga ended prematurely. So yeah I've got to sympathy for you.

Yeah because Hiatus is vacuous viewer repellent. So, it's not that Shittuden beat it. It's just less shitty than Hiatus.

No shit. Hiatus is boring and nonsensical. Yet One Piece gets cancelled and is going to replaced by edgelord nonsense like Tokyo Ghoul which manga fans say bastardizes the source material? And we have to continue to sit through the torture of Shittuden?! ... I guess I really have no choice but to watch it on my own now. T_T

Why does everything I always happen when I'm away? So, One Piece gets cancelled and is going to replaced by edgelord nonsense like Tokyo Ghoul which manga fans say bastardizes the source material? And we have to continue to sit through the torture of Shittuden?! Oh, and the boring and nonsensical Hiatus will continue to squander 30 precious minutes of Toonami each week unabated. ... I guess I really have no choice but to watch it on my own now. T_T

Oh, you finally decided to come back, after all! Awesome!

Nice thread. I flipped to Destination America for background noise the other morning and there was a Samurai Jack promo. This is the first time I can think of them doing an ad off-network for an Adult Swim show, much less a Toonami one. I assume the ads must have run on various other networks as well. They're really going all out for this one! By the way, I wasn't here for the shows live last weekend because my friend brought Zelda over, and we pretty much played that 24/7, aside from the WWE PPV on Sunday. Great game! Finally we've got a nonlinear Zelda just like Zelda 1, and it's huge! A breath of fresh air for the series! Too much for me to gush on right now so suffice to say I'll be getting the game myself ASAP. Just didn't have the money together to buy it on release day.

Oh it's extremely unlikely and would probably never happen, but I could see how it could be made to work. Maybe. Only problem is all the cruelty Moria was responsible for. Yeah he seems pretty silly and has that look and that laugh, that chill personality you mentioned, but he's done some evil as fuck shit. It would take a lot to redeem him, and probably wouldn't fit with his personality anyway.

It's just that some things bother me more than others. I've repeatedly stated that Bleach is not perfect, neither is Fairy Tail. I have given my problems with them. But they've not done anything to make me start disliking them or turn against them. And you know when something bothers me, I don't let it go, so if a series did something that I didn't like, you'd hear about it. Also worth noting that for shows I like that aren't well-liked on this community, my criticism of them won't be as noticeable, since there won't often be someone there to disagree with me, thus causing me to repeat, reiterate, and argue those criticisms. I mean, I don't expect you to tracker stalk me or anything, but if you've followed my commentary even at a glance, you'd know I had my complaints and disappointments with Bleach, that I didn't get everything I wanted, even if I still loved the series. Well, I do have high standards, and I have more tolerance for some problems than I do others, which is why when series do things that get on my nerves, I'm going to jump on whatever that thing is. That's why I complained about the villains getting away in One Piece (especially since this wasn't always the case). You probably didn't notice because you probably didn't care, but the same complaints I've had with the majority of Gundam series since the very beginning, I brought tonight because Unicorn is doing the same shit those old shows used to do, with the obnoxious, pretentious WAR IS BAD preaching, and having a whiny crybaby bitch protagonist - who is typically the one doing the obnoxious childish preaching. Seriously, someone needs to slap the shit out of Banagher. So, that's three pet peeves in one night. I was agrro'd three times. What is it the kids call it these days? Triggered? Sure, that kind of shit triggers me, if you want to put it in such terms. So, you can say that Bleach and Fairy Tail are badly written, and maybe they don't have the best writing, but they haven't done anything to infuriate me, like Hiatus has. In the case of One Piece I wouldn't say I am infuriated, per se, but the thing I brought up does piss me off, and it's arguably worse to have an issue with a show you like, than one you hate. What do I care if Hiatus does more shit that's retarded and nonsensical? I don't like it. It can keep doing more shitty shit and I won't care because fuck that show and that's why I dropped it. With One Piece, I'm not ever going to drop it, and I love it, so it pisses me off when it does shit I don't like, especially when they are major pet peeves. And to be fair, some things about the Bleach ending pissed me off a decent amount as well. So there's that. I'm not going to hold it against the series, though. For the most part, I was satisfied with it. But the issue with the villains in One Piece... it's recurring and obviously not going to go away, and it's something that wasn't always done in the show, which nullifies the whole argument of IT HAS TO BE THIS WAY.

Yeah, they joined up because of mutual benefit. But now there's really nothing they can personally gain from helping Gecko Moria. Do they feel gratitude towards him? Do they... care about each other?

Holy shit I can see it now!

Well, Perona did steal all his treasure and food and try to leave, but Moria probably wouldn't have given a shit, either. The thing I did like about these villains were how they were like Bizarro Straw Hats. Moria lost against a powerful enemy because he was alone. So he vowed to never fight alone again, and that's why he gathered these friends minions. Then each of them had their reasons for being loyal to Moria which also worked in with what they wanted to do, they all had their own goals/dreams, and they all wanted to make Moria King of the Pirates.

When he ends up making friends with literally everyone and then doing things on their behalf, it pretty much ends up being that, by default. It's not a save the world mentality, but when you're helping and saving that many people, you pretty much are. You're going through serious mental gymnastics here to try to say Luffy would only help a select few people, when we know that isn't the case. I mean, anyone who seems like a genuinely decent person he will befriend. And I never said he sought out to do these things; they kind of fall into his lap. But if it's in front of him, he's not going to turn away someone in need or tell them to go fuck themselves. This has been a pet peeve of mine all along. So it makes sense it would come up again when the arc's villains get off scot free, which happened just recently, and we are also reflecting on the arc in general now that it's ended. This happened the first time with Eneru and I was fucking livid. When Goku was a kid, he straight up killed people. He gave no shits. One of my major criticisms of his character as an adult is his stupid merciful bullshit, which annoys me to no end. There's not really any explanation for why Goku changes his policy on this after he grows up, either. Well, maybe Chichi took away his balls. Makes as much sense as anything else. Or the kind-hearted and naive nature of his childhood extended to the point where he would be aware of what he was doing and stop himself from killing his enemies. Did he grow up or mature somewhat in this way? I mean, he destroyed an entire army as a child, him and Yajirobe fucking ate that one Piccolo henchman. Difference between wanting and happening to kill. I'm not sure Goku intended to kill all the people he did as a kid... well, maybe sometimes, but point is, he gave no shits. Not sure how I am going to get used to it if I haven't gotten used it by now. I had been used to the earlier policy of the show where a villain would either die or be imprisoned, or, at the very least, if neither of these happened, we were allowed to think that COULD have happened, because we didn't have shit like "OH BY THE WAY ENERU IS LIVING ON THE MOON NOW." So, I got used to things when they were being done properly, before Oda's abrupt reversal. I mean, if you want to make it so it doesn't look like the hero is a psychopath or whatever, why do we need to see that character ever again after they've been beaten? Let us think they died. Let us think the World Government threw them in jail shortly after the Straw Hats left. Let us think whatever. But no, we find out these characters are still around, for some reason living mundane, mild-mannered lives, and not trying to start shit again, because... because. It's stupid. Like I said, if you don't want to have the killing thing, just leave it to our imaginations. There's no reason to show them again. I know Oda likes to save characters for later, but just because he can, doesn't mean he has to, especially not in every case, and especially not in cases where it makes the story worse and undoes the satisfaction of villains getting defeated.

I educate myself plenty. There's plenty to be learned if you just look, read, observe. So you discriminate against people that hate ISIS and MS-13? Okay, then. If you want to sympathize with criminals and terrorists, be my guests. And even the ones that aren't criminals, are siphoning off benefits, taking jobs, driving down wages. We can barely take care of our own people, much less people that illegally break into our country. These illegals are treated better than our veterans. It's sickening, disgusting, and those days are over. You obviously didn't read the article. Pure democracy results in mob rule and tyranny of the majority. It leads to the majority voting away the rights of the minority, for example. Not really sure how it shows favoritism since the most populous states are still important. You obviously don't know much about history or the form of government this country has, and why it has the form of government it has. It's not a democracy, and there's good reason for that. And as I said, you wouldn't care at all if Hillary won the electoral and lost the popular. So spare me this bullshit. I had gone on record as saying I wasn't following government and political stuff as closely for a while, because I was getting sick of the bullshit. I think I'm entitled to that. That election went on forever. Doesn't mean I didn't follow things closely before that time, and after I got over being burned out, I started following closely again. Well, they don't have to provide ID so what is to stop them from voting? And this is to say nothing of all the dead people that voted and people that voted in multiple places. http://www.fairus.org/issue/noncitizens-voting-violations-and-u-s-elections

Yeah, I don't see that happening with Moria and Hogback, lol.

Again, not sure what you have been watching. Luffy and the others have definitely set out to do things to help others, in ways that wouldn't necessarily benefit themselves. I mean, Eneru is a pretty prime example of this. Not sure about grudges because again he attacks people who hurt his friends. This can be after the fact, after he's already saved them. So I wouldn't really say it's not a goal. You're making it out like Luffy is a sociopath to anyone who isn't on his crew, which is ridiculous. I mean, Luffy's IRL friends list must be in the Guinness Book of Records! And again, what's to stop the enemy you don't kill from returning and visiting even worse pain on the people you left behind and helped. Many of the arcs' villains could in theory do this very thing, or at least do it to someone else. It makes everything you did pointless. Crocodile was at least thrown in jail. Arlong died or maybe got arrested after they left. Kuro hopefully dead. But after a certain point they all get off scot free. It's fucking retarded. What kind of story is it where your villain gets no punishment and is free to wreak havoc as soon as they get finished licking their wounds?