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So, last week, we got the full OP, and in English. The song is bad, by the way. Made especially obvious by the previously cut parts added back in. And that "HOO-HOO!" is just silly.

Why were both threads floated? In any case, this is the winner, to alleviate any confusion.

Yeah and the two I could actually stand, Kurapika and Leorio, are barely in the show after a certain point. But the way Gon acts almost comes off like he has a mental disorder. Blindly defending and liking some people no matter what they do. Maybe it's a form of quasi-sociopathy? At least Killua makes enough sense as being raised by a family of assassins. It wasn't the ideal childhood. But Gon basically had a normal life in a village, aside from having no dad. Also, he wants to become a Hunter to find out why his dad did that instead of being around? You'd think he'd hate him for being a deadbeat. Maybe it's because he hasn't met him yet so he's just at the "where's dad" stage, or not old enough to make that leap. I have to admit I didn't really think poorly of my own dad until I finally met him at like 8 and spent enough time around him over various visits to realize he was kind of an asshole putting up a transparent facade and I really wasn't missing much by not having him in my life. How about Naruto who is basically ninja jesus and people become better people just for having known him and being in his presence? It is silly, I admit. But I think HxH goes too far in the other direction that makes characters unsympathetic, and Gon himself who also acts nonsensical on top of being somewhat amoral. Oh. But I wonder if those other cultures are any different as far as morality goes. I guess I didn't make it to that point. I mean, I don't remember anyone taking to Gon to task for letting someone die just so he could get a fucking badge. Well a lot of worlds won't be sunshine and rainbows, and a corrupt and/or evil governance is a pretty common trope present in shonen and anime in general (including The Big Three and Black Clover), but there's usually always a moral compass to this, usually the protagonists, who contrast this. I can't really recall anyone calling out other characters or the government (which basically isn't even a factor in the arcs I watched, unless you count Hunter Org which seems to just do whatever it wants.) I guess I just don't see the appeal of watching a show about assholes. Like with Mad Men, the whole 60s and advertising stuff is neat, but the characters are pieces of shit. No thank you. Well, I thought Hunter x Hunter was supposed to be a brilliant subversion of the shonen genre and thus above all the rest. Besides, a lot of what we see in shonen might be exaggerated, but not too far off from what we see in real life. Sometimes not far off at all. There were and really are rich assholes like the cartoonish over-the-top nobles in One Piece and Black Clover. Making slaves literally carry their masters around on their backs? Yeah, that kind of shit has happened in human history. That's why it's not believable to have such a shithole of a world and have no one question it.

It's like you didn't read one of the key sentences I wrote. Kayaba used current technology, of the future this world takes place in. A future where the base technology is already more advanced than our own. So you need to stop judging it based on "what we currently have." Stop with your myopic view. So yes, the creation of SAO was a big deal in the show, but not as much of a leap as it would be to create it in our world. I think that's pretty obvious. And like I said, Kayaba did not create it on his own. He had a development team of other brilliant minds. And I can't remember, but it may have been mentioned that there were other VR games before SAO, but Kayaba's just blew them all out of the water. I'd have to go back and re-watch the first episode, but it wouldn't surprise me. It would make sense. I mean, he obviously didn't invent the concept of a virtual world so he was clearly building off something. And I don't get the whole age thing. Many of our brightest inventors, scientists, and entrepreneurs were making big leaps, starting when they were young. That's why we're so impressed with some of them. Especially people in the tech and gaming fields?? I mean, I don't even get why you're so hung up on that.

Now why would I want to root for people like that? Gon liking certain people regardless of what they do is pretty stupid, too. Also we were sold a bill of goods, of sorts. The way the first arc starts, it presents things as if Gon, Killua, Kurapika, and Leorio are going to be the main group. But they split up, and we see Kurapika and Leorio only infrequently after that, if at all. Doesn't help especially since the latter two are preferable to Gon and Killua. Huge casts of more of the same, yeah I really want to see that. In most shows, movies, etc, there would be a character or characters that would point out how fucked up things are, and maybe even do something about it, or try. They'd also call other characters out on their amoral behavior. Here, everyone just goes along with it. Not really sure what the purpose of that is. It doesn't make the protagonists sympathetic when they aren't much better than some of the antagonists in morality. And like I said, it comes off as if human psychology works differently in this world. Even in some of the shittiest, most awful places in our world, you'll have people who live there that will point out "yeah this is fucked up." Maybe they can't do anything about it, but they'll definitely at least recognize that. I mean, it would be one thing if only certain cultures and places in the HxH world were like that, but the whole HxH world is like that. That in itself just isn't even realistic. But, mostly the show is just boring and a whole a lot of nothing. That's why I dropped it when it came down to us watching Gon and Killua level grinding exp and farming gold by chopping people in the back. Is that supposed to be a selling point? It would be one thing if some of the Hunters or others with their level of power kept each other in check, but most everyone in the show are assholes with dubious morality. I mean, who does anyone even identify with in this show? You knew what I meant. They got in the property. Was anyone else getting in? No. And you just helped make my point by saying the protagonists wouldn't have gotten all the way in. So, "asking to come in" really isn't good enough, then.

I already told you I agreed with you on the time skipping over character development being a flaw of SAO Aincrad. To create what this game is touted as in-universe, he'd have to create a new OS and a new game engine. I'm still not sure if the game world is stored on the servers, or the game systems themselves. The latter would make more sense, but it's a HUGE, hyper-realistic world that's indistinguishable from the real one, aside from the fantastical elements, of course. The point being, no one ever feels they are looking at "graphics." Maybe it's more accurate to say the characters are transported to SAO? So, they go to the servers? I don't know. Is that detail ever explained? Maybe if we go back and re-watch the first ep... So yes it had to be created with computers, but he still had to create new software and such for the game to work, I'm thinking. This isn't unheard of. Games can't always just recycle engines or use something similar to previous engines. Sometimes you have to start from the ground up, and that would certainly be the case with something on a whole other level, like SAO. Again, he had a development team, so not by himself. And I thought we were going after Kirito, not Kayaba? No one ever complains about Kayaba that he shouldn't have been able to create this game. It also misses the point of what the show is supposed to be about. Or, maybe things don't have to be so black and white? Maybe that. He created new stuff, with existing technology, of a possible future world, mind you, so not our currently existing technology. I thought all the code was Yui and he was just copying it over to the item. You're really making too much of out of this. But like I said, he's not "hacking" anything. He's in the admin console, so, he's just accessing. The code wouldn't have to be unique to keep the devices hack proof, because as I said, they fry the user if tampered with, and are useless after the user is dead since connection would be severed to the SAO servers. But I'd imagine it probably has to be unique code for such a revolutionary technology and device? Either way, Kirito wasn't "hacking" anything, so it's irrelevant.

The Montreal Tokyo Screwjob. The Jump building can burn to the ground once One Piece and Black Clover are over with, as far as I'm concerned. And really? Incompetent writing? Is that why Naruto was allowed to run to completion? And that has nothing to do with it anyway. Hunter x Hunter's world-building is ass and doesn't even make sense. The world is barely developed and what is doesn't even make any sense. And none of the characters are likable, it's boring, nothing happens. I guess those readers must have Stockholm Syndrome, lol. I'm still not wholly unconvinced that Togashi wasn't replaced with an evil alien clone, Michael Jackson style, because I can't fathom that this same man also wrote Yu Yu Hakusho, which was actually good. Also, the character designs? Lame or boring! Yu Yu Hakusho characters looked cool! What the hell man! You'd probably be more accurate to say I was salty over Hunter x Hunter getting picked up instead of Fairy Tail, but that happened with multiple long-runners Toonami picked up. But, no, Hunter x Hunter just isn't good. But, your beloved shonen won't have a proper ending, either, so -

Diminished capacity. Oh fuck you. https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2018/07/26/mythbusters-jr-why-adam-savage-returned-franchise/846138002/ "So who are the lucky kids and teens who get to play with the explosive C-4? The impressive bunch includes: Valerie Castillo, a 15-year-old who specializes in robotics and building; Elijah Horland, a 12-year-old self-taught programmer; Cannan Huey-You, a 12-year-old currently enrolled in college; Jesse Lawless, a 15-year-old who built a mini-motorcycle at age 12; Rachel Pizzolato, a 14-year-old who has remodeled houses; and Allie Weber, a 13-year-old inventor." The description from these videos. "The junior MythBusters are: Valerie Castillo: This 15-year-old from Lancaster, CA, is a skilled builder and robotics wiz, who is also experienced in CAD drawing and 3D printing. In 2017 Valerie was the team leader of her school’s robotics team that won the state championship, qualifying them to go to the World’s VEX Robotics competition. Valerie and her partner recently won 1st place in their school’s science fair, which later won 2nd place district wide. Elijah Horland: The 12-year-old from Brooklyn is a self-taught maker, programmer & circuit wiz. At 9 years-old, he started building PCs and “Franken-Mac” computers; at 10 years old, he took his first microcontroller and was blinking LEDs in one night, soldering his first circuit boards by the end of the same week. By 11 he was featured in “Make” for his early-model “min-tin” sized video game system, now a staple of maker culture. Cannan Huey-You: A 12-year-old with a background in coding, robotics and motion physics, Cannan will be entering his second year of college in the fall at Texas Christian University where he’s a double major in Physics & Astronomy and Engineering. His dream is to be an astronaut and perhaps be one of the first humans to walk on Mars. Jesse Lawless: This Slidell, Louisiana 15-year-old has been around cars in his dad’s custom hot rod shop since he was a baby. After building a mini chopper by himself at the age of 12, he entered a car show and won 1st place. From fixing up jacked up 4x4s to building scooters, to modifying radio controlled cars, Jesse knows his way around a vehicle. He is also skilled at drawing, crafting and building models. Rachel Pizzolato: The 14-year-old from Metairie, Louisiana is a builder who has been involved with remodeling houses with her father since a young age. In 2017 Rachel was awarded the Duke TIP challenge certificate and presented her current project to the 2017 American Geophysical Union at Bright Stars, a forum that hosted over 20,000 earth and space scientists from around the world. Allie Weber: The South Dakota 13-year-old is a multiple award-winning, patent pending inventor, builder, and maker. An advocate for STEAM, in 2017 Allie was recognized as one of the 21 under 21 girls who are changing the world by Teen Vogue magazine and was also recognized by 3M as one of the top 10 young scientists in the country. In 2016 Allie won the Global Spark Lab Invent-It-Challenge with a frostbite warning system." None of my sources even mentioned some of the stuff that was talked about in the show. Rachel won some science engineering competition 3 years in a row, and is also a gymnast! She's good at more than one thing! Uh-oh! You could watch the first episode where it talks all about it. https://www.sciencechannel.com/tv-shows/mythbusters-jr/full-episodes/duct-tape-special You want to talk about "diminished capacity" when you obviously don't know what you're talking about. You didn't read any of the links. Those kids are all super-prodigies, some in multiple fields. One of the 12 year old kids is in college. So yeah it's a little more than what you were talking about "duct tape and Abe Lincoln trivia." And I wouldn't even say Kirito is even on the level of those kids. Kirito is basically just your average nerdy gamer tech junkie kid. It's not like he's even presented as some child prodigy or anything.

They really should have done a better job of building these new characters up. Especially if this is our first female Super Saiyan after all these years of waiting, and this is how it happens? It reeks of laziness. I thought @Daos said this was the "good part."

"90% of comments" doesn't mean much, especially with how certain people seem to flock to certain videos, and I think you know what I'm talking about. "Most hated" sounds like a stretch. I thought they said most hated in Dragon Ball, and maybe that could be true, because I can't think of any character that's particularly hated in Dragon Ball. But "all of anime?" I do agree though that the rushed and cheap way Caulifa achieved Super Saiyan was lame, though.

Demarco must be self-flagellating himself right about now.

Great, we've got a "looner" on the forum.

GOD DAMN IT!

Black Clover Page 52 Discussion Last time on Black Clover, the Diamond Kingdom inexplicably decided to attack right when the Clover Kingdom is dealing with Eye of the Midnight Sun. Well, maybe not so inexplicable and smart strategy, really. Yami is using it as a chance to help out and also confront William Vangeance who totally doesn't use Light Magic, you guys. Asta and Charmy are also along, and we see how Yuno has grown in power and ability, and his wind fairy in annoyance. Find out how it all goes down tonight, on Black Clover!

Oh shit I forgot to watch this! I left too early LOL.

It would be the same for Gohan but he still had to have an emotional breakthrough for it to work. And it was like that for Future Trunks, transforming after Gohan died. Eh, depends on the circumstances. Maybe the Saiyans in that universe work differently, they were already really strong to begin with, etc. Still would have been better if Caulifa was someone we spent more time with and there was more build up to this, and it didn't happen so casually. Still hoping Pan will finally get her due some day.

I've made a few Black Clover related posts but didn't get any bites. You guys should be getting triggered that Toonami renewed Black Clover!

See, it's unclear if it's meant to be like a dystopia or if this is meant to be considered normal and acceptable in this world, since no one really seems to bat an eye to any of it, and most if not all of the characters are pretty immoral or sociopathic. Maybe human psychology doesn't even work the same way in this world. It's not really clear what the author is going for, or if he even knows what he's going for. The whole world is just a mess. So, the solution is to keep nen a secret but still let nen users do whatever they want. Ok lol. Doesn't really seem like they're trying to counterbalance anything, more like hoarding power and knowledge of nen, while keeping themselves untouchable. There was no sign of any prohibition of nen teaching when Gon and Killua learned about it either, or anywhere else in the show prior to that. Also it wasn't until fucking 50-something episodes in, and we learn about it in the most boring way possible from the most boring character possibly conceived. But what you really should have said was the show is supposed to be all about the nen users and we're not supposed to think about how people with these abilities might affect the actual rest of the world. It's woefully underdeveloped and what is, is nonsensical. Basically it's a bunch of over-powered people with no consequences and nothing to keep them in check but each other, and there's not exactly a virtuous group of nen users or maybe even individual, so... Did you see all the ridiculous requirements to get permission? Basically no one is going to get in there but the protagonists. Still doesn't explain why it's on a celebrity house tour! Imagine if mob bosses' houses were on tours. Sure, you could maybe visit their house or museum and see memorabilia and artifacts, AFTER they're dead or in prison.

What is there to decipher? All he has to do is save the code. He's already in the admin console. Why would the admin need to hack his own console? 16... check my links above. Given he was able to make that item on the spot I'd wager it's not unusual to be able to craft such jewelry items and Kirito probably did it before in his spare time. Or he placed Yui into an item he already had in his inventory. I think what's lacking here is your imagination. Besides, of all the bitchings that have ever been bitched about SAO over the years, you're the first one I can remember that ever complained about WELL HOW COME NO ONE HACKED INTO IT. The big thing I remember some people complaining about was it taking so long for us to learn the players were being kept in hospitals... which is common sense. Also it would ruin the isolation and immersion of the game world that we were supposed to feel trapped in along with the players to see the real world again so soon. Whether the game could be hacked or not is not important to the story. After everything that happened does everyone getting broken out by hackers sound very compelling to you? And like I said if the devices are tampered with they fry the user, and connection is lost once they're dead, so no way to hack even if you wanted to. But all you can do is nitpick around the edges. You lose sight of the big picture.

I never said anything of the sort. I think you've become delusional.

Guess they're real life canon huh? Sure, but not nearly as many characters as people claim there are. Like I said, it's shorthand for "competent character I don't like." Intellectual laziness and intellectual dishonesty.

So Yuno did improve quite a bit then.

What the hell? That's a guy? Hmm looks like plant magic. A far cry from Light Magic. Still...

Boar riding Hercule lol. Love those faceless mage goons lol. Now the fairy has gotten mouthy hahaha. Let's see what magic Golden Dawn Captain uses haha. Yami wants to go. And going to check up on someone hahaha. Charmy got serious LOL. It was so she could see Yuno hahaha.