R.I.P. Psycho Sid

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Wrestlers do not live long. Rare to see a wrestler reach 70 RIP

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17 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Wrestlers do not live long. Rare to see a wrestler reach 70 RIP

It's alarming, to say the least.

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4 hours ago, scoobdog said:

It's alarming, to say the least.

Not really considering the sheer amount of drug use that went on back in those days and insane road schedule wrestlers were on. And plus wrestlers esstianally fall down for a living and taking all those bumps will take it's toll. 

Edited August 28, 2024 by Dusty Shackleford

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Just now, Dusty Shackleford said:

Not really considering the sheer amount of drug use that went on back on those days and insane road schedule wrestlers were on. And plus esstianally fall down for a living and taking all those bumps will take it's toll. 

But, it's not just drug use with the occasional head injury.  Drug use is notoriously capable of disguising other psychological conditions, so you can't help but worry that CTE is a bigger factor in these deaths even though pro wrestling is supposed to be choreographed enough to reduce that danger.

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21 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

But, it's not just drug use with the occasional head injury.  Drug use is notoriously capable of disguising other psychological conditions, so you can't help but worry that CTE is a bigger factor in these deaths even though pro wrestling is supposed to be choreographed enough to reduce that danger.

I just feel it's a combination of these things and you can throw the CTE in the mix due to taking chair shots to the head and those hard ass WWF mats prior to 1998

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35 minutes ago, Dusty Shackleford said:

I just feel it's a combination of these things and you can throw the CTE in the mix due to taking chair shots to the head and those hard ass WWF mats prior to 1998

It probably is.  Hopefully, this next generation lives longer.

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2 minutes ago, scoobdog said:

It probably is.  Hopefully, this next generation lives longer.

Probably not, this generation is way too reckless. Too unsafe death matches, I'm surprised that no one has died on AEW tv.

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Damn.

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1 minute ago, scoobdog said:

Damn.

Outside of WWE it just seems that a lot of wrestlers these day aren't properly trained

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1 hour ago, scoobdog said:

It's alarming, to say the least.

I was watching Reelz back to back docs I saw a few. Andre the Giant Owen Hart Macho Man and Eddie Guerrero. I missed the one about China. They all had 1 thing in common:

Drug and Alcohol Abuse (including steroids or HGH)

They also all take crazy leaps and other things that rattle the body but I’m not including that because it’s a for gone conclusion that they’d have that in common 

Vince McMahon is a human piece of shit how he ran his business 

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2 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

I was watching Reelz back to back docs I saw a few. Andre the Giant Owen Hart Macho Man and Eddie Guerrero. I missed the one about China. They all had 1 thing in common:

Drug and Alcohol Abuse (including steroids or HGH)

They also all take crazy leaps and other things that rattle the body but I’m not including that because it’s a for gone conclusion that they’d have that in common 

Vince McMahon is a human piece of shit how he ran his business 

Wrestling promoters in general are just awful people. McMahon was easily the worst. No other promoter damaged the wrestling business more than him.

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19 minutes ago, Dusty Shackleford said:

Wrestling promoters in general are just awful people. McMahon was easily the worst. No other promoter damaged the wrestling business more than him.

If other organizations use the same business practices as the WWE viewers that care should say something.  In the WWE Vince had the wrestlers classified as independent contractors despite not owning their names and not being able to wrestle for other organizations. There’s zero worker’s compensation and no retirement benefits. Wrestlers like Roddy Piper (he also has a reelz doc) didn’t come back because they really wanted to, they returned because they needed the money.  There’s probably a lot worse stuff too. I stopped watching wrestling about 15 years ago. So idk what has improved if anything 

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50 minutes ago, Dusty Shackleford said:

Outside of WWE it just seems that a lot of wrestlers these day aren't properly trained

Sadly it seems like the less training they have the more people want to watch. People love seeing randos getting thrown on top of folding tables and getting smacked with chairs 😬

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6 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Sadly it seems like the less training they have the more people want to watch. People love seeing randos getting thrown on top of folding tables and getting smacked with chairs 😬

For no money and in front of barely 100 people

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6 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Sadly it seems like the less training they have the more people want to watch. People love seeing randos getting thrown on top of folding tables and getting smacked with chairs 😬

I really wonder the WWE wrestlers are still classified as independent contractors now? TKO now owns WWE so I wonder what has changed from within

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10 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Sadly it seems like the less training they have the more people want to watch. People love seeing randos getting thrown on top of folding tables and getting smacked with chairs 😬

Indie wrestling in a nushell

 

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6 minutes ago, Dusty Shackleford said:

I really wonder the WWE wrestlers are still classified as independent contractors now? TKO now owns WWE so I wonder what has changed from within

That would be great if it’s no longer like that.  I saw a piece on the WWE on last week tonight w John Oliver but it was before McMahon retired. The piece was done anywhere between 3 and 100 years ago 

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5 minutes ago, Dusty Shackleford said:

Indie wrestling in a nushell

 

Omg

the eddie Guerrero doc told a horrific story. He had a match against the dude that pretended to be a Texas oil tycoon complete w dumb hat. (Idr his name) at one point Guerrero cuts his forehead, common practice at the time, but he cut an artery and almost died. Wrestling maybe fake and scripted but the athleticism and stunts are real. Idk if wrestling went to blood packs after that. 

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1 minute ago, 1pooh4u said:

Omg

the eddie Guerrero doc told a horrific story. He had a match against the dude that pretended to be a Texas oil tycoon complete w dumb hat. (Idr his name) at one point Guerrero cuts his forehead, common practice at the time, but he cut an artery and almost died. Wrestling maybe fake and scripted but the athleticism and stunts are real. Idk if wrestling went to blood packs after that. 

I know which match you're talking about he bleed a gusher in that match

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27 minutes ago, Dusty Shackleford said:

I know which match you're talking about he bleed a gusher in that match

I’m pretty sure I might’ve seen that too if it wasn’t a pay per view situation.  JBL was his opponent (just remembered his name) I remember a match where Guerrero was gushing blood pretty badly 

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1 minute ago, 1pooh4u said:

I’m pretty sure I might’ve seen that too if it wasn’t a pay per view situation.  JBL was his opponent (just remembered his name) I remember a match where Guerrero was gushing blood pretty badly 

It was at Judgement Day 2004, damn that was 20 years ago I feel old 

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I also forgot to take into account the sheer amount of botches that happen in a wrestling match. It's just impossible for a wrestler to have not been a victim of a botch throughout their entier career. No matter how careful a wrestler is or how choreographed wrestling is botches happen. 

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Look at Owen Hart. His stunt was botched.  

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3 hours ago, Dusty Shackleford said:

It was at Judgement Day 2004, damn that was 20 years ago I feel old 

Then I did not see it but yeah it’s crazy when you realize how long ago shit happened. It blows my mind that every draft pick in the NFL draft was born AFTER 2000….it’s like fuuuuuuuuuck 🫠

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1 minute ago, 1pooh4u said:

Look at Owen Hart. His stunt was botched.  

Yep and ironically Owen Hart commited one the most famous botches ever when he dropped Steve Austin on his head termporarily paralizing him in the middle of their match at SummerSlam 97

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6 minutes ago, Dusty Shackleford said:

Yep and ironically Owen Hart commited one the most famous botches ever when he dropped Steve Austin on his head termporarily paralizing him in the middle of their match at SummerSlam 97

Holy shit!  And I thought learning about how in the end, Andre the Giant could barely move during his last match when he wrestled Hulk Hogan, was bad 

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16 minutes ago, 1pooh4u said:

Holy shit!  And I thought learning about how in the end, Andre the Giant could barely move during his last match when he wrestled Hulk Hogan, was bad 

I watch that match live as it happened you can tell something wrong when Owen didn't go the pin

 

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OMFG

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I was watching the night his leg snapped in the ring.  One of the most horrific things I ever witnessed.

RIP.

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On 8/28/2024 at 8:45 PM, Dusty Shackleford said:

I watch that match live as it happened you can tell something wrong when Owen didn't go the pin

 

Was it my imagination or can you hear a “snap” when his head hits the mat? 

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On 9/1/2024 at 8:20 AM, 1pooh4u said:

Was it my imagination or can you hear a “snap” when his head hits the mat? 

I thought I heard it too.

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On 9/1/2024 at 11:20 AM, 1pooh4u said:

Was it my imagination or can you hear a “snap” when his head hits the mat? 

What sucks about this was that was such a great match (it probably would've the match of the night) up until that piledriver. Austin was never the same after that. 

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Never met Sid. Was an acquaintance of his cousin who looked like him except about 10 years older and 100 pounds skinnier. 

Didn't know this before, but Sid played a big part in getting Harlem Heat to the Big Leagues, they even crashed at his place for a bit: WWE Hall Of Famer Booker T Explains Sid Vicious' Role In Harlem Heat Getting A Break (wrestlinginc.com) Dude had a reputation as a flake as far as management concerned and he did some crazy shit but he was capable of doing cool things.