Daos Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 17 hours ago, rpgamer said: Crazy prediction that I hope isn't actually a spoiler, cuz I haven't seen anything beyond Toonami, and I don't really care enough for any of you to try to tell me one way or another: Had a sudden vision of how this entire arc is going to end. Naturally Goku's team wins. With the winning wish from the Super Divine OMGAmazing dragon, Goku decides to wish all the other universes back into existence. There's a brief moment of "OMG, how could you go against the Grand Zenis or w/e" before he's like "Lol, no, it's fine, this is great, now we'll get to have the tournament again someday, and it'll be even awesomer.(and also now the writers can keep using all these characters they've already come up with for future filler and shit)" And in the end, everything is back to exactly how it was at the start(coincidentally not unlike a filler arc), while all the other universes have to grudgingly accept that the dangus that got them into this mess actually somehow managed to get them out of it. Given that Goku always wins, and no one ever dies and stays dead... I think you might be on to something there cowboy! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpgamer Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I mean, thus far, nobody of any real significance has been wiped from existence yet, I don't think, so it was simple enough to not really contemplate the consequences here. Plus, the idea that the dragon has the power to restore things that no longer exist seemed like a bit of a stretch. Suppose it's not really so different from making a comfortable pair of undies out of nothing. But still, re-creating entire universes (plural), conceivable that that could be beyond power/capabilities of the dragon. But as soon as I had the thought of how it would all play out, it was just like "Fuck, that sounds exactly like what they would do with all of this. Make it all entirely irrelevant." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OwlChemist81 Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 (edited) It's not the outcome that matters with Dragon Ball--it's the fighting! It's kinda like the pro wrestling of anime. The outcome may not matter, but the ride's gonna be fun! Edited April 30, 2019 by OwlChemist81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daos Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 4 hours ago, rpgamer said: I mean, thus far, nobody of any real significance has been wiped from existence yet, I don't think, so it was simple enough to not really contemplate the consequences here. Plus, the idea that the dragon has the power to restore things that no longer exist seemed like a bit of a stretch. Suppose it's not really so different from making a comfortable pair of undies out of nothing. But still, re-creating entire universes (plural), conceivable that that could be beyond power/capabilities of the dragon. But as soon as I had the thought of how it would all play out, it was just like "Fuck, that sounds exactly like what they would do with all of this. Make it all entirely irrelevant." Well the big giveaway was when they introduce a new even more SUPER dragon that can do literally anything with no limitations. It's pretty much the ultimate undo button. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted May 4, 2019 Share Posted May 4, 2019 On 4/28/2019 at 2:57 AM, Daos said: Nah that was from Z, they just mentioned it like once though. Frieza's Unique Ways Of Creating His Forms Many people do not realize this, but Frieza's forms works in the opposite way that all other characters transformations work. Every character in DB have transformations which are there to increase their power. Frieza's forms were created to suppress his power, not increase it. This is a fact for the simple reason that Frieza's 4th form is his true self state, the way he looked when he was born. Frieza created forms 1-3 to suppress his power. In the battle against Goku, he transforms like everyone else, to increase power, but later it was revealed by Frieza himself that his 4th form was his TRUE self, and that forms 1-3 were created to suppress his ki because his full power was too much to control 24/7. Compare that to the fact that when it comes to Saiyans, their base forms are their true selves, the way they were born. SSJ transformations are to increase power, and is not their true selves. It is their true power, I.E. full power yes, but not true selves. Cooler works like everyone else. When we first see him, he is in his 1st form, and it is his true self state, like Frieza's 4th form, only difference is Cooler didn't have the suppressing forms Frieza created that were unique only to himself. Cooler however, had his own unique transformation, which was his 2nd form (stated to be his 4th form in bad Funi dub lines) that increased his power instead of suppressing it. This is why we never see Frieza transform further from his 4th, true self state, other than 100% that is, because he and his brother work opposite of one another. Frieza created forms to suppress. Cooler created a form to increase strength. This would suggest that people of Frieza's race can create forms on their own, and suit whatever purposes they need. Interesting. Yeah, I guess I did forget about that. It's still lame that Frieza's power-up is just a re-color. Cooler's Super Shredder form was much cooler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 On 4/29/2019 at 3:40 AM, rpgamer said: Crazy prediction that I hope isn't actually a spoiler, cuz I haven't seen anything beyond Toonami, and I don't really care enough for any of you to try to tell me one way or another: Had a sudden vision of how this entire arc is going to end. Naturally Goku's team wins. With the winning wish from the Super Divine OMGAmazing dragon, Goku decides to wish all the other universes back into existence. There's a brief moment of "OMG, how could you go against the Grand Zenis or w/e" before he's like "Lol, no, it's fine, this is great, now we'll get to have the tournament again someday, and it'll be even awesomer.(and also now the writers can keep using all these characters they've already come up with for future filler and shit)" And in the end, everything is back to exactly how it was at the start(coincidentally not unlike a filler arc), while all the other universes have to grudgingly accept that the dangus that got them into this mess actually somehow managed to get them out of it. That's basically what I thought as soon as it was said universes would get erased in this tournament. There's no way that would be permanent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben0119 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 On 4/29/2019 at 9:26 PM, Daos said: Given that Goku always wins, and no one ever dies and stays dead... I think you might be on to something there cowboy! Well, Goku doesn't always win, but yeah, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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