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THE FUCK?! My DVR said Super wasn't starting til 10:30!

Also that anti-autistic bigotry abounds and is apparently acceptable. I love how Asperger's went from being something nobody ever heard of to being routinely hated. Just goes to show that you, Top_Gun and your ilk are the same as plenty of other people I've dealt with in my life. You're just like aaaaaallll the rest. It's sad, really. Not sure why I keep expecting more from people when they continue to disappoint me. I noticed that elfie liked the post(s) too. *shakes head* Oh, and refusing to acknowledge Hunter x Hunter as the Citizen Kane of anime makes me a fool apparently. :D :D :D Sorry, but I'm not sugar-coating my views for you or anyone else.

Goes to show how horrible Hiatus is that it forced me to break my completionist streak!

But, they RUINED MY BIRTHDAY! And like I said, doesn't seem like I was missing much. Stuff is nasty.

I used to like their stuffed crust pizza. It was my favorite thing. So, since that boycott I didn't have any stuffed crust pizza for a long time until I was able to buy some store bought stuff, like Digiorno's. However, last time I had it, it wasn't very good. They must have changed their recipe. But, since then, I've been able to get stuffed crust pizza from Little Caesar's. Their deep dish and their regular are great. There's also Domino's, Papa Murphy's, plenty of other options, for pizza in general. We had a local mom n' pop pizza place here and I had been meaning to go there for a while but never got around to it and it has since closed, sadly.

Still no proof of this.

Pretty sad they needed be taught that same lesson twice. The last time they moved everything up 30 minutes the ratings took a hit, and as viewers never adjusted to the change, it forced them to move everything back. This is why I've always insisted that if they want to change when Toonami starts or ends to just add or remove shows from either end. So just as they re-learn one lesson they've forgotten another. Also goes against their "don't make any big schedule changes" thing they once lived by. This doesn't bode well.

Nope. You notice I haven't said anything about Hiatus in months. But, when I see weakness, I go in for the kill. Such is the case now. Also, Hiatus and Togashi have been filed in the same category for me as Pizza Hut. I've been boycotting them since 2002 for ruining my birthday. We tried to use some coupon and the manager lady went ballistic. Even recently had some of their pizza, as I have very rarely when OTHER people get it, and it's fucking disgusting. Maybe it always was and I didn't notice, or it got worse, I don't know. Either way, fuck Pizza Hut. Haven't seen Yu Yu Hakusho since it originally aired on Toonami and had been wanting to re-watch it for a while but I don't think I ever will now since it will just make me think of Hiatus. I don't want a single penny of my ad revenue getting back to Togashi either.

Which shows? I am tolerating Super because I have hopes it will improve once it gets past the Frieza arc. Plus it hasn't been all bad. Liked the slice of life episodes and the Beerus adaptation was alright. Still recommend the movies over both Arcs though. I love DBZ/Kai so of course I will continue to discuss it. Attack on Titan I don't particularly like but don't particularly hate and I am somewhat interested in what happens even if I am not the biggest fan. JoJo is replacing it though and I LOVE that show. Tokyo Ghoul is definitely in so bad it's good territory. You could teach a class on how bad it fucks up at being anime, or a story, in general. Plus Toka is another good character (relatively speaking) trapped in a bad show. So yeah there is entertainment value here, which is more than could be said for Hiatus. I got so frustrated and exasperated with Hiatus that I made the unthinkable decision of breaking my years-long self-imposed completionist rule of watching every Toonami/ASA show and non-toyetic TV anime I can. Heaven's Tower was the last straw for me. Lupin was never my favorite show or anything and I wasn't hugely excited for its announcement but I always enjoyed it a decent amount and its upbeat fun nature is a breath of fresh air to the block right now. Naruto has been going downhill for a while and has been an abomination for the most part post-timeskip, with a few bright spots and arcs. I continue to watch and discuss it to see just how bad the trainwreck will get and if it lives up to its infamy (hasn't disappointed). So yeah the show used to be good and I was invested in some of the characters so I'll keep watching to see what happens and to witness the horribleness for myself and try to enjoy the few good moments. So yeah I am a completionist in general and that extends to Toonami. There's also the fact the lineup used to be great and I believe it will be again. I'm a patient man. But, even my patience has its limits, and Hiatus exceeded them. There's also a big difference between sitting through a single season show I can't stand and sitting through a 150 ep show I can't stand.

Actually, they're pro-Hiatus, but their reviews keep me aprised of its continued failures. When it comes to Unicorn's suckery though, they know their shit.

Hahaha oh yeah. Oh god, yeah. Surprised they didn't play the quiet game. Yeah it's pretty ridiculous. Everyone just rolls with everything. For sure. Yeah. And yet the jail exists! > Exactly. Yugioh, JoJo, Hellsing, they're all full of nonsense. But they're fun, entertaining. This show, like you said, is about as boring and tedious as it gets. Can you imagine the Zoldycks in JoJo or Hellsing? Some crazy shit would be had. Some fun, some lulz, some action. Here, they just have some "wacky" interactions with each other and Gon. Mostly they just sit or stand around.

So you ragequit, then? Fair enough. Fuck that "comedy" cancer too, by the way.

The hosts of Toonami Showdown are Gods Among Men. You shut your mouth. Well, the more people that agree with me, the more right I am. It's like a spirit bomb of rightness. Naw but, that hasn't been my go-to defense, if you were paying attention. Pretty sure I gave actual examples of things in the show as I experienced them of why the show sucked.

Obviously I don't agree with that. And if you believed that, then why did you continue to follow the series? Following something you hate is illogical. Just drop it. And the two that liked your post never followed Bleach anyway so not sure why they're chiming in.

Hiatus is prolonging the issue by its continued existence on the block. I won't be satisfied until it's gone in two years and a worthy show can take that slot. Just hoping it gets canceled and I don't have to wait that long. Besides, I can't let the show get away with things, like this recent hilarious development or Kurapika not being in the show anymore. Hiatus is to the point of parody with stuff like this. Maybe that's what it is, and that's what I'm "not getting." The whole show has just been a big joke this whole time!

I said well more than "I don't like the series." I gave examples and explanations, arguments. I never said no one else likes it. Actually I've never heard of anyone say Eureka Seven AO was good lol. Oh, I can, but Top_Gun seems to think there are OBJECTIVE SCIENTIFIC TRUTHS in the realm of entertainment. >

God fucking damn it. What is it with you and this obnoxious-ass quoting method? Last time, I tried to use the quote function and none of the post body appeared. I had to copy-paste the whole post and go through and manually change the color of the text, because that didn't copy over, and for the green for mine. And now I'm having to crack open a document for this one. FFS. Eh, Heaven's Arena isn't that bad. I mean, you treat it like Gon and Killua beating up randos was supposed to be tense and not sort of silly. '99 has some problems in HA, but I do think that arc is also a bit more fun there as well. I'll always remember you, angry Elevator Girl. I didn't say it was supposed to be intense. It wasn't funny, either. It was just more tedious bullshit on top of the previous tedious bullshit that HxH loves to revel in. I wasn't going to sit there and watch Gon and Killua level-grind and farm gold up a fucking tower. That started off cliché got funnier as it went on. I also liked Killua getting humbled. Any time that happens it's a good day. Too bad it's not canon! Just goes to show the way to make HxH bearable is not follow the manga. Ugh, now I've got Hiatus polluting my watch history. I'll have to expunge that so I don't get recommendations for that cancer. I'd rather have Kurapika go do his own thing in a natural progression, which really isn't sticking around with Gon and Killua, or Leorio go actually do his thing, given being a doctor doesn't have a whole lot to do with finding Ging, then have them forced into arcs they have no place in.The notion that it has to be a constant band of characters seems silly. And the fact that Kurapika got an entire arc dedicated to him is more than what most shonen would give. Most anime, for that matter, would probably just give a sappy backstory then more or less ignore him. I prefer being able to have him take off for a while than some phony dedication to the "party". Well Leorio was probably the most relatable character for a lot of people, so it's selling us a bill of goods to introduce him as if he's part of the main cast, then send him off to bit role land. Then why create that false notion at the beginning of the show? Don't really care if he got an arc. He won't be in the show for a hundred episodes. If I'm not a fan of Gon and Killua and I come to the realization this is their show why would I stick around? That's besides all the other issues I had with the show. And even if I did like them, I'd still be fucking pissed that Kurpika would be written out of the story for an eternity. Eh, don't know about that. I've seen other shows put focus on other characters for good sections of the story. And again, I don't mind a character taking a break, but that's not what we signed up for. The show lied to us. It didn't set it up that way. If it's a phony dedication then why are they even friends? Why bother building up those relationships if the characters aren't even going to interact for the majority of the series? It's stupid. You're also forgetting that a reason could be made for them to stick together. Someone is writing this. It's not real. It's not set in stone. Which means said writer could do what I just described. And if it is going to be the thing you described, I just... don't even. Why set it up like that? Why have everyone meet and make friends in the Exam. 4 people who meet for the first time and they forge these bonds... only for them to go off and not talk to each other or interact essentially forever after that. I just look at this way. Kurapika, Leorio, and Hisoka, to a lesser extent, they were good characters trapped in a bad show. There's quite a few like that in Naruto. It's sad, really. So, I'm not going to watch a show for a few characters I like that barely get screen time and are used poorly where pretty much everything else about the show sucks and is illogical meandering nonsense to the point of being infuriating. Fuck that. And the current arc is shaping up to be Kurapika's Chimera Ant. Whoopty-fucking doo. Is that supposed to mean something? Won't have an ending anyway. Neither will the series in general, and the show already pissed away its goodwill with me a long time ago. It does some things differently and some things the same. What it did differently happened to fix a lot o my issues with other long-running series. I don't think it's a perfect show, so I do think there are valid criticisms of it. But I actually don't think you do "get it". Not because you dislike it, but because of our lackluster breakdowns of it. “Doing things differently” apparently means a meandering “plot” full of illogical inconsistencies that bores one to tears. Don't throw me in with your lackluster breakdowns, lol. Seems to me more you guys just can't take someone taking a sledgehammer to your precious "masterpiece" so you are harrumphing left and right. It's like the Eva fanboys all over again. And if I don't “get it,” as you claim, your “education” is only making me see the show in an even worse light, haha. Yes. I am legally blind, after all. That's not an exaggeration, by the way. Sometimes I miss words. Then how do you watch subs? Not necessarily. There are a lot of fights, but I wouldn't consider it a fighting shonen. Then it doesn't belong on the block. Demarco turned down requests for things like Yugioh and .hack, after all. He must have gone against the holy tenet of thou shall not air shows that aren't action due to his fanboy love of HxH. Yes, but action comes in other forms than fights. Early HxH is more about other forms, but there are quite a few actual fights. Most were more like scuffles or altercations than actual fights, and the rest got off-screened. I mean, the show bounces between genres all the fucking time. Hunter Exam: Miscellaneous games Yeah and those “games” were fucking retarded. Behold the action and psychology of sitting in a room! Clearly a show that belongs on Toonami. Heaven's Arena: "Tournament" arc, kinda.... How long did the chopping people in the back go on for? Engaging stuff, I gotta say. Yorknew: Gang war with cat-and-mouse headgames Too little too late. Greed Island: SAO [but not shit] Well you're really winning me over with that. I'll make double-sure not to watch it due to that cheap shot. Also you might want to be more specific. Each arc of SAO was different. Chimera Ant: Sprawling epic [literal scale, not dumb "dat's so epic" variation] war I've heard from people about that. The plot is basically THE BAD GUYS WANT TO KILL EVERYONE ZOMG. Not impressed. And indeed, how epic and sprawling that it doesn't find some way to include Kurapika or Leorio... Uh... arc after Chimera Ant (arc title is kinda a big spoiler): Political espionage+Race against clock action/adventure Think I'll just stick to Jason Bourne, thanks. Dark Continent: Free-for-all deadgame death battle with pretext of epic--scale scope Which still couldn't find a place for Kurapika or Leorio! Man just so “artificial” for them to be involved in these big events that are so huge in scope! There's not really any one genre to apply to all of it since all the arcs are so bizarrely different. But does action take place in all of them? Because it was sorely lacking in the first 3 arcs. Not really sure that's justifiable for it be on the block. 30 episodes of little or no action is like picking up a single season show with little or no action and they don't do that. You can't just a have a “down payment” on action. That's not how this works. Yeah, and there's plenty of fighting. Gon and Killua are, in the grand scheme of things, pretty fucking weak early on. Unlike some shows the strength progression isn't just an immediate upgrade then fight the biggest, baddest asses until the next upgrade is needed. The viewer learns the ins and outs with Gon and Killua, and with the progression comes stronger enemies and better fights. I dunno it played up Killua as pretty OP for a while. Gon was capable of some crazy feats as well. We even got the whole “he's so special” thing from multiple characters in this show that's supposedly so different from every other shonen. Yeah well, by the time the show actually decided to start explaining powers, among other things, I long since stopped caring. Also didn't help that it was coming from boring no-personality nothing glorified background characters. “Better fights” doesn't mean “no fights” or “shit fights” just because it's the beginning of the show. You have to hook people with something. It's also a block that airs GitS, Casshern Sins, Tenchi Muyo GXP, Big O, Kick-Heart, Space Dandy.... You seem to have a pretty narrow interpretatio of "action" And with the exception of GXP all of those shows actually have some entertainment value. They also have actual action. HxH doesn't deserve to breathe the same air as most of the shows you just listed. Yugioh season 0 was fun to watch on basis of it being terrible. I liked the candles, and Leorio's bet, and watching Kurapika drop a poser was pretty hilarious. Kurapika's always too legit to quit. Well the thing with Yugioh is you don't take it too seriously. The over-the-top stuff is what makes it fun. The way the games play out, even including the card games later, is usually fun. Candles were lame. Not nearly as clever as the show thought it was. Betting was alright. Made Leorio look like an ass, though. But I did like that girl. Kurapika thing was cool but such moments were sadly very rare. Pretty sure they only spent, like, a minute talking about the phone, by the way. The others were hit or miss, but whatever. Also, don't be knocking dice games. Kaiji S2's chinchirorin was the best thing since anything ever. I mean, not really, but it's like the single worst arc until the godly payoff. Oh it was longer than that. Dice games are ok for like, one episode, or segment, of a show, at best. But the one in HxH wasn't even good. Like I said the show overplays the OH MAN DAT WAS SO CLEVER card so many times. Don't have the time to look into that show right now. If you thought that was the point, it's why people don't take you seriously. You know you can have more than one point, right? The anticlimax adds salt to the wound of Hisoka's thing. Hisoka becomes an outlet for his frustration, which is built up and the payoff fight is an excellent fight. I said major point not the only point. Lol “built up.” Well yeah that was the gist, but as I said before, this supposed build up needs to actually be good. And the show is just too directionless and drags its feet too much. I don't care about a supposed payoff fight when everything before mostly sucked. You always say this like it's profound. Just so you know, it isn't. It is. 100% hit-rate instant death effect hard counter. Actually, you do that to yourself by lobbing the insults in the first place. You have nothing to argue with so you resort to petty insults, like a child. Why should I take you or your arguments seriously when the slightest amount of rustled jimmies is going to cause you to go NANA YER A POOPOO HEAD THIS SHOW IS GOOD YOU JUST DON'T KNOW! No. A sociopath doesn't care when people they care about die, because they don't care about people. Many eastern cultures put large stock in fate. If you die, it was your time to die and that's the natural conclusion of your life.Fatalism, predeterminism, fate, destiny, so on. These are common beliefs, especially in cultures Togashi draws a lot of influence from. The fact that characters care about each other at all throws your retarded "sociopath" argument under a bus. Which is all bullshit. They care about each other so much they don't care when anyone dies and don't care if they don't speak to each other for years, and let us not forget Gon's behavior especially. Killua was raised by psychopaths. Gon has no excuse. "Nobody bats an eye" "We have nothing to compare to" They don't and we don't. And as I said, the show never sets a baseline. By our standards? No, Netero isn't a moral being. But he could be according to the people that live in the world of the show. We really have no way to know. :Technically spoilers, but not about any specific event): Okay... and? Doesn't mean he's not seen as a good person in the world of HxH. These are purely going by our real world moral attitudes here. As you and others have been quick to remind us in the past, HxH is different, nothing is off the table! Moral attitudes, human psychology, everything could be not as we know it in this universe. This could be like some crazy Twilight Zone episode where something we take for granted in our daily lives is turned on its head, but for a whole show! Yeah, if he killed everyone in the room, who would stop him? Everyone in the room would be dead. Yes but Netero also said it was not against the rules. Meaning it would be fine for him to do that and get the license and whoever was left still running the Hunter Org. would welcome him with open arms into the family. They're a government agency We have N. Korea, which executes people for watching movies they don't like. This isn't that far of a stretch. Yes, but again, no baseline. So is the Hunter Org seen as like N, Korea, or is it seen as perfectly normal and just, civilized modern society? And should we be encouraged that our heroes want to join such an organization? We're left to ponder that which is what makes it so frustrating. The world is never explained. If you can't do that within the first 30 episodes, you've got a problem. It's fine to just give us a basic idea of the world and then expand on it, maybe even we learn later things aren't exactly as we thought. But we don't even get that! They are pretty powerful, but not a world leader. Well we really don't know that, do we? And? Netero wants to see what he'll do with whatever information seems the most interesting to give him. He basically says, "If you kill everyone in the room, nobody will stop you" but the joke is that Hisoka wouldn't stand a chance against Netero. So Netero is basically just in it for the lulz. Give people licenses and see what crazy shit they might do. Seems like a smart way to run an organization. Even if he doesn't have much of a moral compass (by real world standards), it could easily lead to instability, splintering, rebellion, and ones own removal and/or death. Again, we can't know that for sure. Earlier the show played it up like Killua could have killed Netero, which would have pissed me the hell off if that was true because the show was already making him obnoxiously smug and over-powered as it is. So really we can't say for sure that Hisoka couldn't take Netero. Becausethey are assassins? They don't just go around murdering people. They kill who their hired to. Most of the time. >.> Then why did you call them glorified bounty hunters? Well, there you go. They're hired killers. Why the hell are they treated like celebrities with people visiting their property on tour buses? And again, it's fucking stupid to use an argument I HAVEN'T USED against me as if I used it. It's pointless and a waste of everyone's time. Fine. But I'm poised and ready should those people ever show up. And I'm pretty sure you did use how it's different as a selling point and defense. Your quote fuckery cost you your emoticons. Sorry about that. They didn't make the transfer after I copied back from the document to here, which would have worked on the old Lithium ASMB, not sure about the other one. I wasn't going to sit here and add them all back in. This was already time-consuming enough as it is.

Hey you leave JoJo and Lupin alone! JoJo has decent popularity. Lupin is pretty niche though. Why do they keep ignoring the must-get animes? Then they pick up shit like Unicorn because GUNDAM and then get Tokyo Ghoul years after the peak of its hype? Yeah it sucks, but even if it has an audience, they've moved on.

Cancel Hunter x Hunter.

I'll have to re-watch that again because I rewound that sequence that started with Erwin's speech and led to that part at least once, and didn't notice it. And the main body doesn't usually remain intact when the other shifters do that. It's not like it's some cockpit they can just open and close. So, if that is the "pilot" of the Beast Titan, he can more than the others can. Also, Beast Titan didn't show up nearly as much as I thought he would. Either way, as far as I can tell, he's not a character we've ever seen before, so, eh.

That must have been shouted down by all the fanboying and obnoxious praise being lavished on HxH for years, and people crying about how it would never get licensed or come to Toonami. If only Toonami got HxH, then we could all be saved! And I'm not going to blame over-hype for my massive disappointment and dislike of the show, either, since JoJo was hyped to the moon and that show blew my expectations away with how awesome it was. I haven't really heard anyone praising the 99 series til you and Top_Gun. Then that means less credit can be given to Togashi's "genius." =3 I agree with a lot of that. The "comedy" in FMAB, which isn't even funny, by the way, is out of place and always at the worst moments. Was quite annoying. Don't think we can blame that on "translation," either. The first 13 episodes are rushed. I like the way that material was covered in the original series better. I cared about Hughes a lot more and felt his death way worse in the original. People told me this was how it was supposed to be and Hughes was never supposed to be that important of a character. Just one of those people that gets killed early on to show things are getting serious and kicking into high gear. And I'm like, that's supposed to be a good thing? But, for whatever it's worth, most people that have only seen Brotherhood don't seem to have an issue with the pacing or handling of the early material. So maybe if we never saw FMA03 we wouldn't have a worse impression of the beginning of FMAB. It's always tricky when you're seeing essentially two versions of the same thing like that. Either way, I'll take the first 13 episodes of Brotherhood over HxH's in a heartbeat. Yeah never read the FMA manga. I think I planned on it after Brotherhood ended but never got around to it. That doesn't sound bad. I do remember Gon contemplating failure about something, but it wasn't that. Think it was the badge thing.

No, but being different doesn't automatically make it better. Like I said, don't really care for Gon or Killua. So, if you're going to have a shifting cast, you need to at least have all of them be appealing characters. Bleach got brought up earlier, with how Ichigo, and plenty of other characters, for that matter, wouldn't appear for long periods of time. With that series, you don't mind swapping between characters because you tend to like them. Just about everybody has multiple characters they're big fans of. And even if it's a case of someone you don't want to watch at that moment, you aren't going to watch, say, Hitsugaya's personal journey for a hundred episodes before you get back to the rest of the cast. It's also worth noting that HxH set up the false pretense and expectations during the Hunter Exam that Gon, Killua, Kurapika, and Leorio would be a team, the main cast. These are the characters we would be following for the rest of the series. They even make a promise to reunite when they split up at the end of the exam. This gives the impression the separation will be temporary, and everyone's paths will eventually meet once again. But nope, it turns out this is the Gon and Killua show, with occasional Kurapika side stories, and I guess Leorio died on the way back to his home planet. How else was HxH different? Let's go down the list of some of the "brilliant subversions of the shonen genre," shall we? Oh hey, isn't subversive that a shonen fighter won't have fights? Wait. Yeah, let's play with candles. You know, it reminds me of those games Yami Yugi would play before the cards came into the series. Except there it was actually interesting and fun to watch. So Togashi takes this kind of concept and manages to make it boring and lame. We had entire episodes dedicated to sitting and talking, running and talking, tedious, obnoxious tests, hunting for a retro game console, opening a door, climbing a wall, talking to a butler on the phone, playing some stupid dice game. Just, blah. Yeah, it's real "different." But, it's not interesting. Not exciting. Do please lecture me on what was so groundbreaking and mesmerizing about that game Gon played with the butler. Hey, let's build up an entire arc to the final exam, it will be a tournament. Okay, the way the tournament works is a little different, but that's fine. We're going to get to see some fights. Time for the big blowoff of the exam! Wait, no, no. We're not going to do that. We'll just off-screen it all. Climaxes don't need to be seen on-screen. One credit I will give was the moment with Killua and his brother, probably one of the only great moments in the show up until that point. In the first 30-something episodes the show was unable to establish a believable fantasy world that was interesting and made sense. Nobody cares when anyone dies. A world wide club card with ridiculously great perks and a license to kill is given out freely to people like Hisoka. Nobody cares when anyone dies and you can pretty much kill anyone at will, but there's a jail. I suppose Togashi put the jail in because he thought it was the right thing to do? It's like he's not even sure. A family of assassins are treated like celebrities and tour groups visit their house, which is just SO WACKY AND FUNNY, but... makes no sense. Really, the show's "logic" is all over the map. I guess this is all just another subversion. We don't need to get our audience to care about the show's world right away, right? Let me think of an unconventional show. Ah, how about Moribito? Not always the most action-packed series. And things often aren't handled the way one would expect. Hell, there was a whole episode with Chagum exposing someone cheating at a gambling game of some kind. But, it was an interesting episode. It was fun to watch the way it all played out. There's a lot of conversations, but they're interesting conversations, and you care about the characters having them. For a good while the show builds up a confrontation between two groups, but when the two actually meet, they talk to each other like people and realize they really have no reason to fight. I was clapping my hands right there, because the trope of misunderstanding fueled feuds drives me up the wall. And there are some really great action scenes, and they feel earned. I cared about the characters there. I don't care about much of anyone or anything in HxH, and as I said, the few things I did care about, the show pissed away with its constant puttering around. I'm all for unconventional. But whatever unconventional thing you're doing needs to actually be interesting. It's not good just because it's different.