fuggnificent Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 so HeLa cells contributed a lot to modern medicine. but they were stolen from her. i know black people wanna act like some injustice was done but she didn't make the DISCOVERY... some scientist did. they dont owe her nothing. just like i have a rare blood type that only 1-2% of the population has...but do i get paid if i donate? no!! what do you brilliant people think? if u think and are aware of the world around you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little_girl_lost Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 But you CAN get paid for giving blood and plasma Eggs are worth thousands, but you need to take a shitload of hormones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 I think what's upsetting is the lack of consent, since her cells were used without her permission, and because using her cells sans consent didn't occur in a vacuum. Lack of informed consent was also an issue in the Tuskegee syphilis study, which was on-going about the time Lack's cells were harvested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted May 2, 2017 Author Share Posted May 2, 2017 I think what's upsetting is the lack of consent, since her cells were used without her permission, and because using her cells sans consent didn't occur in a vacuum. Lack of informed consent was also an issue in the Tuskegee syphilis study, which was on-going about the time Lack's cells were harvested. If she had given consent absolutely nothing would change. If she didnt, many people would suffer greatly- shouldnt be up to her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 The cells could have been obtained elsewhere; there was nothing unique about her cancer. But it speaks to an attitude of indifference toward blacks and the poor that they harvested her cells without even asking permission. Do you think they'd have done that to a middle class white woman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted May 2, 2017 Author Share Posted May 2, 2017 The cells could have been obtained elsewhere; there was nothing unique about her cancer. But it speaks to an attitude of indifference toward blacks and the poor that they harvested her cells without even asking permission. Do you think they'd have done that to a middle class white woman? Thats a hypothetical. I dont think they did since there wasnt a law stating they had to get consent until afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Informed consent cases were being heard in court as early as 1905, and the Nuremberg code was established in 1947. Ms Lacks' procedure was in 1951. You don't know if it's a hypothetical. Granted, neither do I, but it is a plausible scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuggnificent Posted May 2, 2017 Author Share Posted May 2, 2017 I also dont think this can be compar3d to the Tuskegee experiment either since no harm was done to her...they just took her cells. You dont hear about who was the first person to be vaccinated or give them credit...because none is due to them. This is just an attempt to divide poor people against each other in an already severely divided country...waste of intellectual space. But i know i bought it up lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mthor Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 It's a good topic for discussion, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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